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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: PMasterPoo]
    #11238106 - 10/13/09 07:35 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

whatever u do dont take teh vaccine

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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: IMaGicaL]
    #11238140 - 10/13/09 07:58 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

You guys realize that plenty of healthy people are dying from the H1N1 virus?


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: bigboi86]
    #11238151 - 10/13/09 08:02 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

No more than the regular flu :flowstone:


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: niteowl]
    #11238155 - 10/13/09 08:03 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Far less from the numbers I've seen.


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: blewmeanie]
    #11238162 - 10/13/09 08:07 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

:yesnod:


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: niteowl]
    #11238194 - 10/13/09 08:19 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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niteowl said:
No more than the regular flu :flowstone:




I don't think any of you guys must be watching the news.

http://www.wkyt.com/home/headlines/64042912.html

2 normal, healthy soldiers have died.

http://h1n1.flu-virus.org/H1N1-US-deaths.php

Here is the number of deaths so far in the US.

http://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/

Here are the latest flu reports.

This is a virus new to humans. It is not bright to automatically think your immune system will kick it's ass.

If this is nothing to scoff at, why are normal healthy people dying from it instead of their immune system fighting it off?

I've been sick as fuck for like 3 weeks and I'm starting to become worried. You should too.


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: bigboi86]
    #11238231 - 10/13/09 08:32 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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bigboi86 said:
Quote:

niteowl said:
No more than the regular flu :flowstone:




I don't think any of you guys must be watching the news.






maybe you shouldnt pay attention to the news

http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/f/flu/deaths.htm
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Death rate extrapolations for USA for Flu: 63,729 per year, 5,310 per month, 1,225 per week, 174 per day, 7 per hour, 0 per minute, 0 per second.




http://www.cdc.gov/flu/keyfacts.htm
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about 36,000 people die from flu-related causes.





this shows the difference in the wrong diagnosis.com and CDC death stats
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/01/07/health/main535605.shtml
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The U.S. death toll surged fourfold from 16,263 in 1976-77 to 64,684 in 1998-99, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported. Flu deaths now average about 36,000 a year, up from 20,000 in previous estimates, the CDC said.





it still seems to me that 300 is far less than 36,000

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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: bigboi86]
    #11238237 - 10/13/09 08:34 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

This is 100% a genetically engineered virus its so obvious.

How do they already have a vaccination for a "new flu" when it usually

takes several years to develop a vaccine. My theory is that it was

released earlier this year as a beta test to see how we would react

and now that it is prime flu season there will be an all out hype fest

aimed at getting you to take the vaccine which contains the REAL virus

that mutates and spreads. hmmmmm maybe you've been watching a little to

much news.

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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: IMaGicaL]
    #11238242 - 10/13/09 08:36 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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IMaGicaL said:
This is 100% a genetically engineered virus its so obvious.

How do they already have a vaccination for a "new flu" when it usually

takes several years to develop a vaccine.





lol... it can take a few days to develop a new vaccine


I cant belive I just defended modern medicine

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    #11238251 - 10/13/09 08:38 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #11238268 - 10/13/09 08:46 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
maybe you shouldnt pay attention to the news

http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/f/flu/deaths.htm
Quote:

Death rate extrapolations for USA for Flu: 63,729 per year, 5,310 per month, 1,225 per week, 174 per day, 7 per hour, 0 per minute, 0 per second.




http://www.cdc.gov/flu/keyfacts.htm
Quote:

about 36,000 people die from flu-related causes.





this shows the difference in the wrong diagnosis.com and CDC death stats
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/01/07/health/main535605.shtml
Quote:

The U.S. death toll surged fourfold from 16,263 in 1976-77 to 64,684 in 1998-99, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported. Flu deaths now average about 36,000 a year, up from 20,000 in previous estimates, the CDC said.





it still seems to me that 300 is far less than 36,000




The data from the first two links is at least 5 years old.

I guess a virus that can kill a healthy soldier that just passed a rigorous physical examination within 48 hours is just the media starting shit again.

19 children died this week from the flu. 16 of those children had h1n1. I guess it's all a hoax though right?

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The proportion of deaths attributed to pneumonia and influenza (P&I) based on the 122 Cities Report has increased and now exceeds what is normally expected at this time of year. In addition, 19 flu-related pediatric deaths were reported this week; 16 of these deaths were confirmed 2009 H1N1 and 3 were unsubtyped influenza A and likely to be 2009 H1N1. A total of 76 laboratory confirmed 2009 H1N1 pediatric deaths have been reported to CDC since April.




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Almost all of the influenza viruses identified so far are 2009 H1N1 influenza A viruses. These viruses remain similar to the virus chosen for the 2009 H1N1 vaccine, and remain susceptible to the antiviral drugs oseltamivir and zanamivir with rare exception.




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Thirty-seven states are reporting widespread influenza activity at this time. They are: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Texas, Tennessee, Virginia, Washington, and Wyoming. Any reports of widespread influenza activity in September and October are very unusual.




How the fuck can you people ignore increased death rates and facts backing everything up?


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: dr_gonz]
    #11238282 - 10/13/09 08:51 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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dr_gonz said:
maybe you should receive the Nobel peace prize?




I have seven and only had to kill 38 people to get them, that's like a record

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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: bigboi86]
    #11238313 - 10/13/09 08:59 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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bigboi86 said:
The data from the first two links is at least 5 years old.




I know, and this way we know for a fact it's not the H1N1 virus that's killing tens of thousands

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I guess a virus that can  that just passed a rigorous physical examination within 48 hours is just the media starting shit again.






pretty much since it's not just old people that die from the flu, often
times there's underlying medical conditions that arent detected, is
there any info on what sort of vaccinations he received at the time of
his 'rigorous physical'


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19 children died this week from the flu. 16 of those children had h1n1. I guess it's all a hoax though right?





didnt say it's a hoax, said it was media hype, the CDC is reporting the
figures and they're reporting far more people dying from the average flu
strains, why is this one such a big deal? because it's a new strain



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How the fuck can you people ignore increased death rates and facts backing everything up?




when it kills 65k people, let me know, until then lets ask ourselves was
it the flu, was it some underlying issue, was it some shit created by
the medical profession that we call a vaccine... there's a great deal
that hasnt been released to the public, for instance the 'vaccine' in
nasal spray form is in fact the live virus

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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: PMasterPoo]
    #11238320 - 10/13/09 09:01 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

pris is fucking hilarious for de-railing threads.


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: LobsterSauce]
    #11238331 - 10/13/09 09:06 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Jimtown said:
This is the song that never ends



it goes on and on my friends

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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #11238344 - 10/13/09 09:10 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

wait a second

25 deaths from the flu vaccine up to august
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/health/Swine_flu/article6797993.ece



the WHO reports 1500 deaths in the US from the h1n1 virus up until august
http://www.who.int/csr/don/2009_08_21/en/index.html

while the CDC claims there was only 500 until august
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5834a1.htm

the wiki that was updated today claims 900 in the US, less than 5000 world wide
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic

yet your link shows 300 deaths

who is bullshitting us

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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: Neuron]
    #11238349 - 10/13/09 09:12 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Neuron said:
pris is fucking hilarious for de-railing threads.





is the conversation only supposed to apply to cognative_shift?

CS... hope you get better man.

now it's back in topic

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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #11238371 - 10/13/09 09:19 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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pretty much since it's not just old people that die from the flu, often
times there's underlying medical conditions that arent detected, is
there any info on what sort of vaccinations he received at the time of
his 'rigorous physical'




The guy was a 25 year old soldier that had an excellent physical condition. If this virus is as harmless as you all imply, why would there be a need for a vaccine in the first place? Surely the human immune system can fight a new deadly flu strain.

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there's a great deal
that hasnt been released to the public, for instance the 'vaccine' in
nasal spray form is in fact the live virus




Vaccines are just a concoction of dead/dying viruses that aren't strong enough to kill us, but allow our immune system to become acquainted with it.

I thought this was common knowledge.

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when it kills 65k people, let me know, until then lets ask ourselves was
it the flu, was it some underlying issue, was it some shit created by
the medical profession that we call a vaccine




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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #11238385 - 10/13/09 09:22 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
wait a second

25 deaths from the flu vaccine up to august
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/health/Swine_flu/article6797993.ece



the WHO reports 1500 deaths in the US from the h1n1 virus up until august
http://www.who.int/csr/don/2009_08_21/en/index.html

while the CDC claims there was only 500 until august
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5834a1.htm

the wiki that was updated today claims 900 in the US, less than 5000 world wide
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic

yet your link shows 300 deaths

who is bullshitting us




Sorry bud, both those organizations stopped counting individual cases, so this entire post is kinda useless.

You are just arguing for fuck's sake. You ignore blatant evidence.


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: bigboi86]
    #11238405 - 10/13/09 09:30 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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bigboi86 said:
The guy was a 25 year old soldier that had an excellent physical condition. If this virus is as harmless as you all imply, why would there be a need for a vaccine in the first place? Surely the human immune system can fight a new deadly flu strain.




are you not understanding any of this?
the flu kills
h1n1 flu kills
the flu kills more people than h1n1 has

if the regular flu kills 30k people in the US each year, 90% of those are not
in the best of health, that means that 3000 of those people are healthy

http://nextbigfuture.com/2009/04/regular-flu-deaths-in-usa-in-2009.html
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There have been 820-987 deaths each week from the regular flu in the 122 cities that are in the center for disease control tracking system.




Quote:

Vaccines are just a concoction of dead/dying viruses that aren't strong enough to kill us, but allow our immune system to become acquainted with it.

I thought this was common knowledge.




must be why everyone develops those flu like symptoms that las as long as the flu
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/vis/downloads/vis-laiv-h1n1.pdf

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