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to catch a predator
    #11230258 - 10/12/09 12:55 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Show has been on for a while and I agree that the people on there have a serious problem.

However, how do you guys feel about sting operations where cops go out of their way to arrest people?  I think its bull shit on so many levels.


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Re: to catch a predator [Re: steezemachinee]
    #11230268 - 10/12/09 12:56 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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steezemachinee said:
Show has been on for a while and I agree that the people on there have a serious problem.

However, how do you guys feel about sting operations where cops go out of their way to arrest people?  I think its bull shit on so many levels.





I agree. We need to cut out the middle man and just legalize gun shot to the head for anyone trying to sleep with someone 12 yrs or under. Anyone pulled that shit on a child of mine would be FUCKED :gc:

But its an awesome show


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Re: to catch a predator [Re: Almond Flour]
    #11230281 - 10/12/09 12:57 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)



This is actually my desktop pic at work, I shit you not.


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Re: to catch a predator [Re: steezemachinee]
    #11230299 - 10/12/09 12:59 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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steezemachinee said:
Show has been on for a while and I agree that the people on there have a serious problem.

However, how do you guys feel about sting operations where cops go out of their way to arrest people?  I think its bull shit on so many levels.




1. The show was taken off the air because one of the people they went after committed suicide.
2. The majority of people arrested on this show didn't get charged because there were no warrants and the arrests were illegal. There was also pretty much no way to prove the location in which the online solicitation took place.
3. What do you think is bullshit about police going out of their way to arrest people?


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Re: to catch a predator [Re: learningtofly]
    #11230337 - 10/12/09 01:05 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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learningtofly said:
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steezemachinee said:
Show has been on for a while and I agree that the people on there have a serious problem.

However, how do you guys feel about sting operations where cops go out of their way to arrest people?  I think its bull shit on so many levels.




1. The show was taken off the air because one of the people they went after committed suicide.
2. The majority of people arrested on this show didn't get charged because there were no warrants and the arrests were illegal. There was also pretty much no way to prove the location in which the online solicitation took place.
3. What do you think is bullshit about police going out of their way to arrest people?





Not to sound like a douche, but could you backup point #2, that's pretty interesting to me.  Link or something.  :omgz:


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Re: to catch a predator [Re: steezemachinee]
    #11230348 - 10/12/09 01:06 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I always thought that show was horse shit TBH

no crimes were committed, so how can you arrest someone with no victim :confused:


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Re: to catch a predator [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #11230349 - 10/12/09 01:06 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

they claim a high conviction rate from the show but most of the cases were dropped


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Re: to catch a predator [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #11230370 - 10/12/09 01:09 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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they claim a high conviction rate from the show but most of the cases were dropped




so it's just a ratings thing?  that's bullshit!


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Re: to catch a predator [Re: steezemachinee]
    #11230381 - 10/12/09 01:11 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I love it. It provides the lulz.








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Re: to catch a predator [Re: niteowl]
    #11230384 - 10/12/09 01:11 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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niteowl said:
I always thought that show was horse shit TBH

no crimes were committed, so how can you arrest someone with no victim :confused:





enticing a minor is a crime in most states, it's easy to prove intent with the chat logs


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Re: to catch a predator [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #11230386 - 10/12/09 01:12 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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learningtofly said:
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steezemachinee said:
Show has been on for a while and I agree that the people on there have a serious problem.

However, how do you guys feel about sting operations where cops go out of their way to arrest people?  I think its bull shit on so many levels.




1. The show was taken off the air because one of the people they went after committed suicide.
2. The majority of people arrested on this show didn't get charged because there were no warrants and the arrests were illegal. There was also pretty much no way to prove the location in which the online solicitation took place.
3. What do you think is bullshit about police going out of their way to arrest people?





Not to sound like a douche, but could you backup point #2, that's pretty interesting to me.  Link or something.  :omgz:




Yeah there's actually a news article about it.

http://www.esquire.com/print-this/features/predator0907

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In the months following today, Doris Berry will review the cases the Murphy Police Department submits to her against the twenty-three men they arrested outside Dateline's decoy house, and she will find a variety of problems.

Some of the problems will be technical. For example, in most of the cases, she will find so-called venue problems. In order to pursue a case on an online-solicitation-of-a-minor charge, you’ve got to prove that either the suspect or the victim in the case was physically present in Collin County at the time the crime was committed. The location of the decoy house is irrelevant: What’s important is where the chat suspect and the chat decoy were when they were actually doing their chatting. But in sixteen of the cases that the Murphy Police Department will submit to her, Doris Berry will find it impossible to prove that either the Perverted Justice decoy or the suspect was inside Collin County when the crime was allegedly committed.

Some of the problems will be more fundamental: She will find that all of the arrests may have been illegal. Under Texas law, there are only certain circumstances under which a police officer can make an arrest without a prior warrant. But in all of these “To Catch a Predator” decoy-house arrests, it will come to light that not only was there no warrant but the police had done literally no prior investigation. Instead, they simply camped outside the decoy house and arrested the men who emerged after receiving a prior signal from the Dateline crew inside. The only thing Doris Berry won’t quite be able to figure out is whether this means that Dateline had become an agent of the Murphy Police Department or whether the relationship was the other way around. She’ll discuss this question with her boss, John Roach, the district attorney, and Roach will eventually form the opinion that “the Murphy Police Department was merely a player in the show and had no real law-enforcement position. Other people are doing the work, and the police are just there like potted plants, to make the scenery.”

The thing is, Doris Berry is a prosecutor. She wants to see bad guys punished. She’s read the transcripts, which means she knows most of these men are bad and a lot of them are probably dangerous. And if she rejects the cases, she knows what will happen: Instead of receiving the incarceration and supervision that might prevent them from someday soliciting real kids, not fake ones, they’ll receive only Dateline’s nationally televised shaming.

But the law is the law, and you can’t just wish a batch of mangled cases good.

On June 1, 2007, seven months after the end of the sting operation, three months after Dateline airs the relevant episode of “To Catch a Predator,” the Collin County District Attorney’s office will announce that it has decided not to pursue indictments for any of the suspects Murphy police arrested outside the decoy house.




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Re: to catch a predator [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #11230392 - 10/12/09 01:13 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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This is actually my desktop pic at work, I shit you not.



Is now mine also LOL


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Re: to catch a predator [Re: learningtofly]
    #11230395 - 10/12/09 01:13 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Awesome.  Thanks man. :thumbup:


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Re: to catch a predator [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #11230396 - 10/12/09 01:14 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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niteowl said:
I always thought that show was horse shit TBH

no crimes were committed, so how can you arrest someone with no victim :confused:





enticing a minor is a crime in most states, it's easy to prove intent with the chat logs



ya dude, online solicitation of a minor for sexual reasons is a crime in most states.

Intent to commit a crime is still a crime.


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Re: to catch a predator [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #11230398 - 10/12/09 01:14 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

dude that was like a seriously 7 sec reply... what are you doing hitting refresh every sec?


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Re: to catch a predator [Re: learningtofly]
    #11230403 - 10/12/09 01:15 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

they should lower consent age to 16


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Re: to catch a predator [Re: Coaster]
    #11230409 - 10/12/09 01:16 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

It is in some states. But the people these guys go after are under that age, 14 & 15.


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Re: to catch a predator [Re: Coaster]
    #11230435 - 10/12/09 01:20 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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they should lower consent age to 16





it's 16 in Ga, up from 14 about 15 years ago...


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Re: to catch a predator [Re: Coaster]
    #11230512 - 10/12/09 01:32 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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they should lower consent age to 16




it's 16 in Arkansas :awesome:




































should be 15 though :sad:


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Re: to catch a predator [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #11230525 - 10/12/09 01:35 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Its a little late for that dawg


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