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obama to eliminate don't ask don't tell
    #11226631 - 10/11/09 03:30 PM (8 years, 14 days ago)

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/10/10/obama.gay.rights/index.html

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Obama called for the repeal of the ban on gays in the military -- the "don't ask, don't tell" policy.




Wow, what can I say besides our military is going to get a lot gayer.

what impact do you think this will have on the U.S. Military?


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Re: obama to eliminate don't ask don't tell [Re: djmako7]
    #11226637 - 10/11/09 03:32 PM (8 years, 14 days ago)

Hahaha Oh thats why he gets a Nobel.


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Re: obama to eliminate don't ask don't tell [Re: djmako7]
    #11226667 - 10/11/09 03:37 PM (8 years, 14 days ago)

I don't think he will actually do so, but if he does, I will be surprised and satisfied.  Every day, gays fight in our military and perform admirably. 

There is no evidence, outside of anecdotal accounts, that this would negatively affect the United States armed forces.


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Re: obama to eliminate don't ask don't tell [Re: CapHat]
    #11226677 - 10/11/09 03:39 PM (8 years, 14 days ago)

Personally I don't care if your gay or not but this will just cause problems. So, what you have to tell everyone your gay? and this will make everything better? I'm not really sure why he thinks this is a top issue. I think there is SOMETHING out there in the world that is more important.


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Re: obama to eliminate don't ask don't tell [Re: CollegeGuy]
    #11226690 - 10/11/09 03:41 PM (8 years, 14 days ago)

Why would you HAVE to tell? That's not the issue.

The issue is that you should be ABLE to tell without being kicked out of the forces.


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Re: obama to eliminate don't ask don't tell [Re: Redstorm]
    #11226713 - 10/11/09 03:45 PM (8 years, 14 days ago)

Hey now that homosexuals have rights maybe us psychonauts can get some rights too!


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Re: obama to eliminate don't ask don't tell [Re: Redstorm]
    #11226727 - 10/11/09 03:49 PM (8 years, 14 days ago)

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I don't think he will actually do so, but if he does, I will be surprised and satisfied.  Every day, gays fight in our military and perform admirably. 

There is no evidence, outside of anecdotal accounts, that this would negatively affect the United States armed forces.





You have not dealt with them first hand in training. I had one in my platoon who eventually got RSP'd because he couldn't handle it. His flamboyant nature was disruptive and hurt the platoon.

Don't get me wrong There were some guys that are gay that performed there duties perfectly. But orientation could limit some things such as harassment rights.

The problem that they might have are sexual relation problem. The vast majority of the military are Men. Can't mix pleasure with work.


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Re: obama to eliminate don't ask don't tell [Re: Redstorm]
    #11226728 - 10/11/09 03:49 PM (8 years, 14 days ago)

Wasn't this a Clinton law? Now being over turned by another liberal for not being liberal enough...before you know it the military will have to bend over back wards(no pun intended) to make sure gays get there equal rights, blah blah blah....


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Re: obama to eliminate don't ask don't tell [Re: djmako7]
    #11226773 - 10/11/09 04:00 PM (8 years, 14 days ago)

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djmako7 said:
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Redstorm said:
I don't think he will actually do so, but if he does, I will be surprised and satisfied.  Every day, gays fight in our military and perform admirably. 

There is no evidence, outside of anecdotal accounts, that this would negatively affect the United States armed forces.





You have not dealt with them first hand in training. I had one in my platoon who eventually got RSP'd because he couldn't handle it. His flamboyant nature was disruptive and hurt the platoon.

Don't get me wrong There were some guys that are gay that performed there duties perfectly. But orientation could limit some things such as harassment rights.

The problem that they might have are sexual relation problem. The vast majority of the military are Men. Can't mix pleasure with work.




If a gay man can't pass muster in training, he should be dismissed just as any straight man would be.

A gay man training at or above a satisfactory level, however, should not be dismissed.


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Re: obama to eliminate don't ask don't tell [Re: Redstorm]
    #11227091 - 10/11/09 04:55 PM (8 years, 14 days ago)

I can't even imagine a gay person actually wanting to enlist in the first place...


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Re: obama to eliminate don't ask don't tell [Re: Ginseng1]
    #11227191 - 10/11/09 05:07 PM (8 years, 14 days ago)

> I can't even imagine a gay person actually wanting to enlist in the first place...

Why?  Gay people are immune to nationalism?


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Re: obama to eliminate don't ask don't tell [Re: Seuss]
    #11227227 - 10/11/09 05:13 PM (8 years, 14 days ago)

just make a special ops gay brigade where every soldier is gay,  then release them to assfuck the enemy to death.


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Re: obama to eliminate don't ask don't tell [Re: Seuss]
    #11227264 - 10/11/09 05:19 PM (8 years, 14 days ago)

Why does a queer have to tell, no one wanst to know or care about you liking it up the rear. That rule is not saying you cant be gay it says dont ask that question cuz it doesnt matter and dont tell so you can respect others who care less to know you drop the soap in the shower. Thats all I need in a war some queer coming up to me having to tell me hes queer so just in case i needed to know that. You around 10's of thousands of men who are grumpy tired and want to go home. If some queer needs to go and implant into the mens heads thats hes queer then hes got a bunch of men who now have to wonder if your looking at them cuz you had to go tell them cuz its your queer right. I dont hate gays, I just think they fucking stupid if they go to another country for war and tell a bunch of soldiers that there a willing queer if someone gets board.


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Re: obama to eliminate don't ask don't tell [Re: CapHat]
    #11227469 - 10/11/09 05:53 PM (8 years, 14 days ago)

It's too bad you can't discuss the topic at hand without resorting to the vocabulary of children. It would make it a bit easier for people to take you seriously.


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Re: obama to eliminate don't ask don't tell [Re: Redstorm]
    #11227517 - 10/11/09 06:00 PM (8 years, 14 days ago)

Just because queer sounds tabo, doesnt make it. Queer is a word in the Dictionary and has no racial meaning meaning. Just cuz you dont like the way it sounds? Lets change black to dark cuz black people might find you saying they look black un educated. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck.


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Re: obama to eliminate don't ask don't tell [Re: CapHat]
    #11227564 - 10/11/09 06:06 PM (8 years, 14 days ago)

Homosexuality and queer are scientific terms used to identify. You can cover it up all you want with Gay.


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Re: obama to eliminate don't ask don't tell [Re: CapHat]
    #11227627 - 10/11/09 06:16 PM (8 years, 14 days ago)

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Homosexuality and queer are scientific terms used to identify. You can cover it up all you want with Gay.




I would like you to show me where "queer" is used as a scientific term.


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Re: obama to eliminate don't ask don't tell [Re: Redstorm]
    #11227631 - 10/11/09 06:17 PM (8 years, 14 days ago)

Even the dictionary identifies it as disparaging and offensive slang.

Talk like an adult or be treated like a child.


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Re: obama to eliminate don't ask don't tell [Re: Redstorm]
    #11227915 - 10/11/09 07:05 PM (8 years, 14 days ago)

OBAMA WOOOOO!



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Re: obama to eliminate don't ask don't tell [Re: Redstorm]
    #11227932 - 10/11/09 07:07 PM (8 years, 14 days ago)

Queer is a gay reclaimed word now.  Its A-OK to use queer around all the fags you want.


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