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    #11225616 - 10/11/09 11:16 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: For all those scared by Salvia or want to understand it [Re: cpw1971]
    #11225651 - 10/11/09 11:24 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I was scared shitless the only time i did salvia. during my last aya cerimoney i revisited this experince and got closure now i was wanting to work with plant allie again. I belive i will start out quidding and not smoking the stuff.


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Re: For all those scared by Salvia or want to understand it [Re: redeyesmj]
    #11225677 - 10/11/09 11:35 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

That's how i learned to swim, oh shit i said swim...lol anyways, my first trip was a kiddie pool compaired to the mescalin extract that i consumed the second time, and ya i took a bunch out of arrogance. 

I have been hesitant to try salvia, and very hesitant to smoking it, because i do not enjoy anything "coming on" so fast and strong.  I like for the train to build up steam before it leaves the station and slowly build speed after that. Salvia seams from the video's and post's i have read an instant effect.


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Re: For all those scared by Salvia or want to understand it [Re: Unparalized]
    #11225715 - 10/11/09 11:46 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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    #11229578 - 10/11/09 11:14 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: For all those scared by Salvia or want to understand it [Re: FrenchMachine]
    #11229814 - 10/11/09 11:48 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Awesome post OP. I have been trying to figure salvia out for a while now and you seem to be right on with your analysis.

The zipper thing was what originally freaked me out. I just didn't know wtf was going on. But I can totally see what you are saying. God it feels weird to split your consciousness though, haha.

Kinda like in the matrix when they go from real life to the matrix, except instead of going to one place or the other, you are given the concept of any possible place. Idk, just thinking out loud.


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From spiritual faith to great courage;
From courage to liberty;
From liberty to abundance;
From abundance to selfishness;
From selfishness to complacency;
From complacency to apathy;
From apathy to dependence;
From dependence back into bondage.


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Re: For all those scared by Salvia or want to understand it [Re: FrenchMachine]
    #11230612 - 10/12/09 01:49 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: For all those scared by Salvia or want to understand it [Re: cpw1971]
    #11239710 - 10/13/09 04:03 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: For all those scared by Salvia or want to understand it [Re: cpw1971]
    #11239776 - 10/13/09 04:14 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

so you're the dude who made that donut theory thread... I was actually thinkin about mentioning it here, until you mentioned it...

I remember reading that post a few years ago... tried explaining it to my girlfriend at the time, she had no fucking clue what I was getting at (this reality folding business) once she smoked a good hit of 20X she knew exactly what I meant

and I explained it to her BEFORE I read your old post... you said it WAY better then I could have


very well put  :congrats:


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Re: For all those scared by Salvia or want to understand it [Re: LuSiD9]
    #11239896 - 10/13/09 04:32 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: For all those scared by Salvia or want to understand it [Re: LuSiD9]
    #11239953 - 10/13/09 04:41 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

i experienced out of body perception after smoking salvia once. usually its among the most uncomfortable of realities. very claustrophobic. compacted, dwarfed even. i have a couple plants and a small cutting but im unsure if i have enough leaves for fresh quids. as some of the leaves brown i dry them and save them for later but i refuse to smoke it again. i will maybe try a quid in the future but this plant really is not meant to be smoked IMO.


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Re: For all those scared by Salvia or want to understand it [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #11240020 - 10/13/09 04:50 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: For all those scared by Salvia or want to understand it [Re: cpw1971]
    #11240078 - 10/13/09 04:59 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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thanks man I am glad it has helped you and your girlfriend
 
  It took me 3 years of experimentation to come out with that theory. It isn't very easy to explain. It's like this reality just folds inside itself and into a little suitcase taking your physical body with it. Your mind can stop it from happening but that only makes it scary. Just let it fold and relax and everything will be normal again in 5 minutes :crazy2:
  But if you find yourself in a black void or this reality just flattens then you didn't go far enough. Once the reality fully folds over there's other realities on the other side.

  I don't always make it all the way over but I sure as hell try so if it doesn't happen just keep trying and eventually Lady Salvia will unlock the door to the heavens. Your intentions must be good as you will be judged at the gate.  Evil doesn't exist there and there are many friendly entities on the other side waiting.




:yesnod:

I'd give you 5 shrooms but it appears I already did... ffrom when you posted your first donut theory thread

you should see what happens when you smoke it on DXM or K...


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Our laws make law impossible; our liberties destroy all freedom; our property is organized robbery; our morality an impudent hypocrisy; our wisdom is administered by inexperienced or mal-experienced dupes; our power wielded by cowards and weaklings; and our honour false in all its points. I am an enemy of the existing order for good reasons.


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Re: For all those scared by Salvia or want to understand it [Re: LuSiD9]
    #11240096 - 10/13/09 05:02 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: For all those scared by Salvia or want to understand it [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #11240129 - 10/13/09 05:06 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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this plant really is not meant to be smoked IMO.




oh shit yes it is... although I haven't tried the oral route... yet

anyone ever try that reality wax stuff?

basically just like making oil from weed... soak the leaves in ISO or something similar, filter the liquid onto a baking tray or something, let the ISO evaporate, scrape up resulting green waxy stuff... chew

I think that's how I'm gonna go about doing it... holding all those big ass leaves in my mouth just sounds a little un-appealing to me


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Re: For all those scared by Salvia or want to understand it [Re: LuSiD9]
    #11240161 - 10/13/09 05:11 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: For all those scared by Salvia or want to understand it [Re: cpw1971]
    #11240210 - 10/13/09 05:17 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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I tried quidding a few times without much success.

    The wax may actually hamper absorption.  A standardized extract would probably work great though.....  hmmmmmmmmm

    I would like to make a killer tincture with Salvinorin put into a tiny bit of mouthwash. I bet that would work like a mofo





I tried 10X orally... so I guess my last post was a bit off... I held a gram of it in my mouth for like an hour... trying not to swallow... which gets really fucking hard after a few minutes

nothing happened... if there was something, it was barely a threshold effect... easily could have been placebo

I think you're right about the tincture, might have to try that... probably after I try the reality wax first, maybe with a wee bit of vodka in my mouth at the same time

or maybe tequila, as I bet salvia would enjoy that a little more... being mexican and all :wink:


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Re: For all those scared by Salvia or want to understand it [Re: LuSiD9]
    #11240263 - 10/13/09 05:25 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: For all those scared by Salvia or want to understand it [Re: cpw1971]
    #11240271 - 10/13/09 05:27 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

A lot of my trips show signs of an apocalypse.

But not in the sense that everyone thinks.

2012 is honestly a rebirth as much as it is the "end."

Just remember to follow the water bearer into the house.


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Re: For all those scared by Salvia or want to understand it [Re: Angel_Above]
    #11240311 - 10/13/09 05:32 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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