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Offlinegalenmistmantle
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Mushroom + Astral projection
    #11224796 - 10/11/09 03:58 AM (8 years, 9 days ago)

Has anyone ever tried this before? I researched astral projection the other day and started thinking what if you were to consume shrooms then go into a state of astral planing, or while at your peak then go astral plane. Whats your oppinion?


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Re: Mushroom + Astral projection [Re: galenmistmantle]
    #11224817 - 10/11/09 04:04 AM (8 years, 9 days ago)

I have a good amount of knowledge of astral projection under my belt. Ive read in several sources that astral projecting while unde the influence of a drug can give a negative projection and send you to a plane lower then the physical plane. Im not sure on it how legimenant that is. Ive only projected sober


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Re: Mushroom + Astral projection [Re: mudnpool]
    #11224902 - 10/11/09 04:44 AM (8 years, 9 days ago)

Who needs astral projection when you can travel back in time?

I once became one of our evolutionary ancestors, a sea sponge with tesselating hexagonal cells which fluoresced various shades of blue at the edges as they sucked in water from a fast cold ocean current.


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Re: Mushroom + Astral projection [Re: purple_mule]
    #11224906 - 10/11/09 04:49 AM (8 years, 9 days ago)

astral projection and time are two very different things, spiritual realm there is no such thing as time


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Re: Mushroom + Astral projection [Re: mudnpool]
    #11224910 - 10/11/09 04:51 AM (8 years, 9 days ago)

Well then... I should do some reading!


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Re: Mushroom + Astral projection [Re: purple_mule]
    #11225014 - 10/11/09 05:45 AM (8 years, 9 days ago)

Astral projection takes a gifted mind.


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Re: Mushroom + Astral projection [Re: TheMerryGangster]
    #11225104 - 10/11/09 07:16 AM (8 years, 9 days ago)

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Astral projection takes a gifted mind.




Thankyou for your wise input:wink:


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Re: Mushroom + Astral projection [Re: purple_mule]
    #11225318 - 10/11/09 09:42 AM (8 years, 9 days ago)

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I have a good amount of knowledge of astral projection under my belt. Ive read in several sources that astral projecting while unde the influence of a drug can give a negative projection and send you to a plane lower then the physical plane.




the problem is that nearly all books on this subject have been writing by authors very ignorant on the effects of psychedelic substances. It is just the bad stigma associated with drug use. The fact that it is called " negative", "lower" shows how inexperienced those authors are. A psychedelic user would recognise a necessary and healing difficult experience.
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Re: Mushroom + Astral projection [Re: TheMerryGangster]
    #11225907 - 10/11/09 12:38 PM (8 years, 9 days ago)

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Astral projection takes a gifted mind.




Why do you suppose this?  I achieve astral projection through sleep paralysis on occasion- once or twice a month now if I'm lucky.  Do you purport that I have a gifted mind?


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Re: Mushroom + Astral projection [Re: Society]
    #11226257 - 10/11/09 02:01 PM (8 years, 9 days ago)

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TheMerryGangster said:
Astral projection takes a gifted mind.




Why do you suppose this?  I achieve astral projection through sleep paralysis on occasion- once or twice a month now if I'm lucky.  Do you purport that I have a gifted mind?




Elaborate further on "achieving astral projection through sleep paralysis".


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Re: Mushroom + Astral projection [Re: TheMerryGangster]
    #11227623 - 10/11/09 06:16 PM (8 years, 9 days ago)

sleep paralysis is necessary part of projection. Conscious mind, immobile body, that's when you separate, apparently.  I have sleep paralysis often but I've never actually gotten out fully, nor am i entirely sold on the idea.  I've had strange enough things happen during paralysis though that I am open to it.


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Re: Mushroom + Astral projection [Re: kennedy]
    #11228086 - 10/11/09 07:31 PM (8 years, 9 days ago)

I would assume on a psychedelic you could trick yourself into thinking you're in some astral plane easier.


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Re: Mushroom + Astral projection [Re: galenmistmantle]
    #11228211 - 10/11/09 07:53 PM (8 years, 9 days ago)

I have been projecting since I was 7 years old.  I have done it many many times including like 5 times last week.

  It doesn't work on mushrooms
    heres a way kinda similar to sleep paralysis....
  When you wake up in the middle of the night get up for about 5 minutes.  Then lay back down on your back.  Just relax your whole body and let it sink into the bed. After a few minutes you will feel tingly all over.  Relax more untill you feel kinda different. Now force yourself to get up out of bed and you may look back down at your sleeping body. It can be very hard to get yourself out of your body because it does feel like sleep paralysis.  But the cool thing is that you are awake the whole time.  Most times I can't remember the exact instant I fall asleep when I go to bed.

    theres another way called the spontanious awakening......
  Every night before you go to sleep look at your hands and say to yourself  ... If I look at my hands in my dream I will know I am dreaming and can then project. Your conscious will awaken and you can then control it.
  The hands thing is called a dream hook and it is a form of self hypnosis.  Do it every night for a few months and it will work. 


I mixed my first method with Salvia and it helps bypass the ego loss and brings me right to level 5 and into other dimensions.
    1.Hit the Salvia 3x
    2.Lay back and close your eyes
    3.relax your whole body
    4.relax even more and really let your body sink into the bed or couch ect....
    5.no matter how wierd it gets relax more.
    6.Say hello to the Salvia entities when you get to the other side :smile:


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Re: Mushroom + Astral projection [Re: cpw1971]
    #11228622 - 10/11/09 08:48 PM (8 years, 9 days ago)

I've found that there aren't really any guaranteed methods of inducing sleep paralysis/astral projection, but there are some things that work well.  Wikipedia lists some good ones:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis

Personally, I've found several things that have lead to sleep paralysis/astral projection:
1) Sleeping in a strange environment/circumstance. 
-When I used to sleep at a ex-girlfriend's apartment, I'd get it 50% of the time.

2) Sleeping in after not sleeping well or much for days in a row. 
-Particularly, if I drink heavily two or three nights in a row, the third or fourth night (when I don't drink) I sleep for almost 12 hours.  During the later part of my sleep, I enter astral projection.

3) Waking up involuntarily and frequently. 
-Last time I slept with my girlfriend, in my own bed, she kept waking me up asking me to check something.  When she got up and left, I slept in by myself and entered sleep paralysis.  I actually hallucinated that she came back and tried to wake me up.

The last two times I got sleep paralysis, I was laying on my side.  However, traditionally, it occurs more when you sleep on your back.

Also, cpw1971, I'm jealous that you're already able to explore the world in "real time." I've heard of people doing this.  However, when it happens to me, I generally float out of my body and into space and what not.


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Re: Mushroom + Astral projection [Re: Society]
    #11228748 - 10/11/09 09:03 PM (8 years, 9 days ago)

yeah  I like to go to the window and put my hand through it. When I do I can feel the vibrations of the glass through my spirit body. Very cool. I love to fly also.... very much like Superman.

  try my first method though... it doesn't always work but sometimes it does and when it does you can do it multiple times in a row.  Also eat a chocolate bar for the 5 minutes you are awake.  The sugars feed the brain and help get the right brainwaves going to project.


    one more method ........
    spread out your sleep cycles into spurts of 3 hour sleeps throughout the day. Break it up evenly. That way it helps thin the veil of consciousness/subconscious


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Re: Mushroom + Astral projection [Re: cpw1971]
    #11230014 - 10/12/09 12:22 AM (8 years, 9 days ago)

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one more method ........
    spread out your sleep cycles into spurts of 3 hour sleeps throughout the day. Break it up evenly. That way it helps thin the veil of consciousness/subconscious




That most certainly would work for me, and, at the very least, allow most people to experience lucid or bizarre dreams.  The last time I got sleep paralysis was from the constant waking and then walking around required of me.  The last time I finally got to sleep undisturbed, my mind lifted out of my brain and was flying in the sky at night time while I heard overheard the technical speak and conversation of airplane pilots.

Wasn't quite as cool as the previous time, though, when I flew around to this weird place in space with dance music and weird, colorful ribbons twisting around.

Do you tend to have a period with you experience sleep paralysis (the beginning) where you experiece bizarre hallucinations while you are still in your body?  I tend to experience hallucinations of people I know coming into my room and what not- usually before I realize I'm in sleep paralysis mode.  Once I have the realization that I cannot control my body, I immediately experience rather disturbing auditory, tactile, and visual hallucinations.  I tend to hear sinister serpent-like voices whispering in my ear while I feel my body parts being manipulated by beings. 

The hallucinatory aspect is extremely commonly reported with sleep paralysis, and often terrifying to most individuals.  Honestly, I've started to enjoy it lately.  It's like having a sudden breakthrough that you are completely fine in the middle of a bad trip.


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Re: Mushroom + Astral projection [Re: Society]
    #11230947 - 10/12/09 02:58 AM (8 years, 9 days ago)

I think the hallucinations are mind created.  Once you learn to control it you can then create anything you want.  But you are right it can get pretty weird.
  Often when I project I will find myself in the same room but things will be different.
  Last week I flew out of my house and past the neighbors house to the next house. Only the house was different.
  I drove by it yesterday and it turned out that another block away was the house I saw while projecting. I never really looked at it while going by until the other day and I was like wow.


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Re: Mushroom + Astral projection [Re: cpw1971]
    #11231709 - 10/12/09 09:25 AM (8 years, 8 days ago)

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I think the hallucinations are mind created.  Once you learn to control it you can then create anything you want.  But you are right it can get pretty weird.
  Often when I project I will find myself in the same room but things will be different.
  Last week I flew out of my house and past the neighbors house to the next house. Only the house was different.
  I drove by it yesterday and it turned out that another block away was the house I saw while projecting. I never really looked at it while going by until the other day and I was like wow.




These sound like lucid dreams, which I have often but not like true projection. Astral projection takes you to the astral plane.


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Re: Mushroom + Astral projection [Re: TheMerryGangster]
    #11231734 - 10/12/09 09:43 AM (8 years, 8 days ago)

not necessarily
  Astral Projection is when you leave your body and your conscious mind is awake. You can look back at your sleeping body.
  In the astral plane you are at a higher vibration but can still see this reality  or  you can make your own altogether.


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Re: Mushroom + Astral projection [Re: cpw1971]
    #11231760 - 10/12/09 09:58 AM (8 years, 8 days ago)

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not necessarily
  Astral Projection is when you leave your body and your conscious mind is awake. You can look back at your sleeping body.
  In the astral plane you are at a higher vibration but can still see this reality  or  you can make your own altogether.




You can go further than that and use the Astral Plane to open a connection between you and other spirits in this world and others.


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