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Thumbprint Dosage Estimates
    #11223383 - 10/10/09 11:26 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Take a guess about how much LSD would be in the average thumbprint.

I've heard estimates from 15 mg all the way up to .2g. What do you guys think?

Side Note: If I remember correctly, acid is fairly dense, so if you think a thumbprint of sugar is X mg, then acid would probably be about 1.5X.


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Re: Thumbprint Dosage Estimates [Re: teeter]
    #11223431 - 10/10/09 11:35 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

who's thumb?


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Re: Thumbprint Dosage Estimates [Re: teeter]
    #11223434 - 10/10/09 11:35 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

I'd say 5mg-10mg


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Re: Thumbprint Dosage Estimates [Re: UnholyChild666]
    #11223455 - 10/10/09 11:39 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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who's thumb?




Good question!

Lets go with average sized male thumb. No Shaq hands and no midgets, just an average dude.


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Re: Thumbprint Dosage Estimates [Re: Agent MadHatter]
    #11223466 - 10/10/09 11:42 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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I'd say 5mg-10mg




Really? Seems kinda low to me, I was thinking more around 20 mg. Seems like its easier to take a "Thumbprint" than I ever realised (mainly because I always thought of it as some undoable thing that only goes on in major acid circles). All you need is a sheet of good acid; I know someone thats taken the equivalent.


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Re: Thumbprint Dosage Estimates [Re: teeter]
    #11223476 - 10/10/09 11:44 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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who's thumb?




Good question!

Lets go with average sized male thumb. No Shaq hands and no midgets, just an average dude.



It's about time Joe the Plumber did a little acid.


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Re: Thumbprint Dosage Estimates [Re: teeter]
    #11223491 - 10/10/09 11:46 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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who's thumb?




Good question!

Lets go with average sized male thumb. No Shaq hands and no midgets, just an average dude.




okay cause I was gonna say I've seen some ginnormous hands in my life :lol:


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Re: Thumbprint Dosage Estimates [Re: fiddle]
    #11223533 - 10/10/09 11:52 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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teeter said:
Quote:

UnholyChild666 said:
who's thumb?




Good question!

Lets go with average sized male thumb. No Shaq hands and no midgets, just an average dude.



It's about time Joe the Plumber did a little acid.




:ilold:

Lets get some estimates though people!


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Re: Thumbprint Dosage Estimates [Re: teeter]
    #11223755 - 10/11/09 12:28 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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I'd say 5mg-10mg




Really? Seems kinda low to me, I was thinking more around 20 mg. Seems like its easier to take a "Thumbprint" than I ever realised (mainly because I always thought of it as some undoable thing that only goes on in major acid circles). All you need is a sheet of good acid; I know someone thats taken the equivalent.



no way. it would have to be alot more than a sheet. i've taken sheets multiple times and never experienced anything like chinacat described. it was heavy and intense as hell, but it wasn't a thumbprint. i would expect it to be 10x what i've done, judging by his story.


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Re: Thumbprint Dosage Estimates [Re: moe.phan]
    #11225740 - 10/11/09 11:52 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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I'd say 5mg-10mg




Really? Seems kinda low to me, I was thinking more around 20 mg. Seems like its easier to take a "Thumbprint" than I ever realised (mainly because I always thought of it as some undoable thing that only goes on in major acid circles). All you need is a sheet of good acid; I know someone thats taken the equivalent.



no way. it would have to be alot more than a sheet. i've taken sheets multiple times and never experienced anything like chinacat described. it was heavy and intense as hell, but it wasn't a thumbprint. i would expect it to be 10x what i've done, judging by his story.




So more like 50-100 mg?


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Re: Thumbprint Dosage Estimates [Re: teeter]
    #11226071 - 10/11/09 01:25 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

I reckon around 30-40mg.. which is about 3-4 sheets :eek:.


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Re: Thumbprint Dosage Estimates [Re: Cepheus]
    #11228743 - 10/11/09 09:03 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

I think the best way to do it is to find the density of crystal acid (will google it after this post and update in a second), find a safe and available substance of similar density and then have someone with a mg scale and an average sized thumb make a thumbprint and weigh it.


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Re: Thumbprint Dosage Estimates [Re: teeter]
    #11228837 - 10/11/09 09:14 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

my thumbprint would probably kill me. i have big fucking hands


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Re: Thumbprint Dosage Estimates [Re: King Koopa]
    #11228862 - 10/11/09 09:17 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Look at your hands, even if LSd was dense as fuck, it couldn't be more than 15 mg. But think about it, thats 150 hits.

Ten is an ego death for most people. 20 is almost always an ego death for everyone. 30 is crazy. 50 isn't even plausible...so whats 150?


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Re: Thumbprint Dosage Estimates [Re: Agent MadHatter]
    #11228895 - 10/11/09 09:22 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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Look at your hands, even if LSd was dense as fuck, it couldn't be more than 15 mg. But think about it, thats 150 hits.

Ten is an ego death for most people. 20 is almost always an ego death for everyone. 30 is crazy. 50 isn't even plausible...so whats 150?




True dat.

Would still be interesting to get an exact measure.


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Re: Thumbprint Dosage Estimates [Re: teeter]
    #11230091 - 10/12/09 12:34 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

you won't.


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Re: Thumbprint Dosage Estimates [Re: King Koopa]
    #11230611 - 10/12/09 01:49 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

i think you would be peaking for a good 3-4 days maybe more on a thumbprint  :prance:


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Re: Thumbprint Dosage Estimates [Re: King Koopa]
    #11239344 - 10/13/09 02:49 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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you won't.




I meant exact estimate. That sounds pretty retarded, but what I mean is, it would be great to lock in the range of an average thumbprint. Of course I won't actually get an exact amount.


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Re: Thumbprint Dosage Estimates [Re: teeter]
    #11239420 - 10/13/09 03:04 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

I never understood why anyone would waste a large unknown amount of LSD while seriously fucking with their brain chemistry. How about sharing it instead of trying to enter psychosis?


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Re: Thumbprint Dosage Estimates [Re: Moo456]
    #11239446 - 10/13/09 03:09 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Thumbprint Dosage Estimates [Re: Brugman]
    #11239453 - 10/13/09 03:11 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Well how many more people does it take to figure out that your thumb holds enough LSD to make you trip balls?


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Re: Thumbprint Dosage Estimates [Re: Moo456]
    #11240691 - 10/13/09 06:47 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

The people that are taking thumbprints have done so much LSD that any damage a thumbprint would do to your brain chemistry has already been done. As for why they would do it, if you've read Chinacat's experience with it, its an amazing experience far different than any regular acid trip.


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Re: Thumbprint Dosage Estimates [Re: teeter]
    #11240984 - 10/13/09 07:37 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

You could easily get 50 mg's on a thumbprint, probably more though (.1 g perhaps)

Seems to come to about 5 to 10 sheets.  I'm you sure you could get some really heady thumbprint coatings.


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    #11240987 - 10/13/09 07:38 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

I don't see 50mg possible. Have you ever dealt with Mg's before?


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Re: Thumbprint Dosage Estimates [Re: Agent MadHatter]
    #11240994 - 10/13/09 07:39 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Dude, Madhatter, I went and did a thumbprint of salt and it was a fuckload. I could easily see someone getting 50mg out of a thumbprint.


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Re: Thumbprint Dosage Estimates [Re: teeter]
    #11241073 - 10/13/09 07:49 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

I for one would prefer to take a massive dose of something a bit shorter acting. Or better yet ayahusca on a large dose of LSD  :royalrainbow:


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Re: Thumbprint Dosage Estimates [Re: teeter]
    #11241078 - 10/13/09 07:49 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

The dude I bought my crystal from insisted I tried a thumbrint..this is in 1992 mind you the LSD was amazing!! The crystal I printed off of was at the time called a champagne..It wasn't the top but it wasn't the bottom either...and I tripped so dam hard for days!! Loved every minute I can remember of it!! I blacked out several times during the trip and will have to wait until death to see what I was doing then I guess?? but to say I ingested 150 hits would seem insane!!!! so I'm guesing maybe 3-5mg. of the actual crystal..it's not like you smash you're whole thumb on the thing that's just asking for insanity..you just pinch of the corner of you're thumb and press it softly on the crystal then lick you're thumb!!:2cents:...e


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Re: Thumbprint Dosage Estimates [Re: electrics]
    #11241141 - 10/13/09 07:58 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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The dude I bought my crystal from insisted I tried a thumbrint..this is in 1992 mind you the LSD was amazing!! The crystal I printed off of was at the time called a champagne..It wasn't the top but it wasn't the bottom either...and I tripped so dam hard for days!! Loved every minute I can remember of it!! I blacked out several times during the trip and will have to wait until death to see what I was doing then I guess?? but to say I ingested 150 hits would seem insane!!!! so I'm guesing maybe 3-5mg. of the actual crystal..it's not like you smash you're whole thumb on the thing that's just asking for insanity..you just pinch of the corner of you're thumb and press it softly on the crystal then lick you're thumb!!:2cents:...e




That's exactly what I was figuring was done, you don't coat the whole front of your thumb, like if you took the smalest size capsule and had lsd in it and licked your finger and put it on the end of the cap and flipped it upside down then right side up and re-capped the capsule, you would probably have 5-10mg's on your finger and I would think that you would use a slightly smaller amount than that for a TP. So like 5mg's would be a good thumbprint, a good 50 100ug hits sounds niiiiiiiiice!


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Re: Thumbprint Dosage Estimates [Re: Agent MadHatter]
    #11241176 - 10/13/09 08:02 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

what makes it not possible? if you think in the whole history of LSD manufacturing no one has ever ingested over .05 g's you are sorely mistaken.

no, i have not taken mg's and don't "plan" on taking mg's. what does that have to do with anything? I would say at least 98% of the site has never taken mg's either.


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Re: Thumbprint Dosage Estimates [Re: Moo456]
    #11241246 - 10/13/09 08:12 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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I never understood why anyone would waste a large unknown amount of LSD while seriously fucking with their brain chemistry. How about sharing it instead of trying to enter psychosis?




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Re: Thumbprint Dosage Estimates [Re: electrics]
    #11241309 - 10/13/09 08:22 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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The dude I bought my crystal from insisted I tried a thumbrint..this is in 1992 mind you the LSD was amazing!! The crystal I printed off of was at the time called a champagne..It wasn't the top but it wasn't the bottom either...and I tripped so dam hard for days!! Loved every minute I can remember of it!! I blacked out several times during the trip and will have to wait until death to see what I was doing then I guess?? but to say I ingested 150 hits would seem insane!!!! so I'm guesing maybe 3-5mg. of the actual crystal..it's not like you smash you're whole thumb on the thing that's just asking for insanity..you just pinch of the corner of you're thumb and press it softly on the crystal then lick you're thumb!!:2cents:...e




Dude, champagne is like the second worst type of crystal.


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Re: Thumbprint Dosage Estimates [Re: teeter]
    #11252293 - 10/15/09 01:06 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Well back in 92 it was not!! With Todays market yeah maybe what they call a champagne crystal is one of the worst but back on the dead scene in the early 90's it was considered middle of the road!! I'm not saying it was the best..It was good!! and I tripped balls..it was just what I found available at the time..Of course I would have loved to have the snow crystal or the pure white But it was not what I had found..And comparing it to what you would call champagne today is like comparing night to day...the crystal I got had very slight impurities in it at the time!! now today that may be another story...As far as my Thumprint experience goes if Champagne really was one of the worst kinds even back then I would have not enjoyed anything stronger..and all the sheets we laid from that crystal not one person complained that it was shitty acid actually some claimed it was the best they had ever had..Circa 1992......e


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Re: Thumbprint Dosage Estimates [Re: electrics]
    #11252348 - 10/15/09 01:15 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Im not an expert on the matter, but I dont think you can determine the purity of your LSD by how it looks or what its called.


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Re: Thumbprint Dosage Estimates [Re: Moo456]
    #11252669 - 10/15/09 02:04 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Actually, according to most you can. Info from mycotopia:

TYPES OF CRYSTAL

Needlepoint -very pure(95%) white powerdery crystal,was available in small amount`s. The best of the best

White Fluff -Very pure(95%) white light flakes of crystal. Still around and the most sought after. very pure

Silver -Good and clean(85-90%)-light greyish crystal. Was an unbelievable amount of this around in the late eighty`s and early nineties. Very good stuff. My first thumbprint was this kind. If you ate acid in the 80-90`s you probably sampled some silver.

Amber -Decent(70%?) This crystal varied from a light amber color to an almost dark brown color.Was always available.One batch called quadricept amber was the color of light honey and was very good.Lot`s a people worked with this crystal but I always would use silver instead since it was better and the same price.

Lavender -(60-70%?) light purple to almost black colored crystal. Like amber it varied batch to batch.

TJ (tornado juice) - purity unknown. I seen this shit in about four different colors and it always scared me. No experiance with it.

Champagne -(50-60%) black crystal, nasty stuff IMHO. I worked with it once and swore to never touch it again.


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Re: Thumbprint Dosage Estimates [Re: Dr.Myco87]
    #11254171 - 10/15/09 05:39 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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Dr.Myco87 said:
Actually, according to most you can. Info from mycotopia:

TYPES OF CRYSTAL

Needlepoint -very pure(95%) white powerdery crystal,was available in small amount`s. The best of the best

White Fluff -Very pure(95%) white light flakes of crystal. Still around and the most sought after. very pure

Silver -Good and clean(85-90%)-light greyish crystal. Was an unbelievable amount of this around in the late eighty`s and early nineties. Very good stuff. My first thumbprint was this kind. If you ate acid in the 80-90`s you probably sampled some silver.

Amber -Decent(70%?) This crystal varied from a light amber color to an almost dark brown color.Was always available.One batch called quadricept amber was the color of light honey and was very good.Lot`s a people worked with this crystal but I always would use silver instead since it was better and the same price.

Lavender -(60-70%?) light purple to almost black colored crystal. Like amber it varied batch to batch.

TJ (tornado juice) - purity unknown. I seen this shit in about four different colors and it always scared me. No experiance with it.

Champagne -(50-60%) black crystal, nasty stuff IMHO. I worked with it once and swore to never touch it again.




Mycotopia directly copied that from Chinacat72's Crystal to blotter thread.

@electrics: If you had something called champagne that was white and lacking noticable impurities, then you didn't have what the dead champagne. The only explaination I have for it is that the guy you were dealing with had heard the word champagne and assumed it meant good crystal (champagne = high class) and then he attatched it to the non-family crystal he was getting (to make it sound good). Why he wouldn't have just said "Fluff," I don't know, but if you didn't have gross black crystal that made you sick when you printed it, then you didn't have champagne.


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Re: Thumbprint Dosage Estimates [Re: teeter]
    #11254181 - 10/15/09 05:41 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Oh, just remembered, I checked out Chinacat's thread on actually doing thumbprints and he and Whiterasta (another person who is extremely experienced with acid and thumbprints) both agreed that it was in the 3-5 sheet range, so roughly 30-50mg.


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Re: Thumbprint Dosage Estimates [Re: teeter]
    #11264454 - 10/17/09 10:46 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

OK so the guy who had this crystal and I were both wrong according to the descriptions the crystal I bought back in the early 90's was what was considered silver....It was by no means dark colored at all...I don't think I would ever buy anything that fits the description below silver...e


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Re: Thumbprint Dosage Estimates [Re: electrics]
    #11264816 - 10/17/09 12:30 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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OK so the guy who had this crystal and I were both wrong according to the descriptions the crystal I bought back in the early 90's was what was considered silver....It was by no means dark colored at all...I don't think I would ever buy anything that fits the description below silver...e




Thats what I figured, you're dealer was probably just a dumbass and tried to use "Champagne" as a marketing ploy, when its actually really shitty.


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Re: Thumbprint Dosage Estimates [Re: teeter]
    #11264845 - 10/17/09 12:36 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Thats why I have a problem with street drugs. They can always be called anything or mixed with something. I dont see any reason why it couldnt be done with LSD as well.


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    #11270503 - 10/18/09 12:26 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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Thats why I have a problem with street drugs. They can always be called anything or mixed with something. I dont see any reason why it couldnt be done with LSD as well.




Well LSD can be called anything, I've never heard of it being cut though. The reason a batch of crystal (like champagne) is impure is because the chemist didn't go to the effort to purify the final product. The imprities in crystal are from the manufacturing process, not from people diluting the crystal for profit.


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Re: Thumbprint Dosage Estimates [Re: teeter]
    #11270535 - 10/18/09 12:32 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

The only way you would really know that is if you got it from someone high up on the chain. People sometimes make weak blotter and dilute vials, so it really wouldnt be any different. How common it is, no one knows.

edit: I didnt mean to bring everyone down though. It would just be awesome if you always knew what dose of LSD youre taking.


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Re: Thumbprint Dosage Estimates [Re: Moo456]
    #11270564 - 10/18/09 12:40 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

People high up the chain aren't the people doing the cutting in any drug industry. You don't see el heffe cocaine lord smuggling 100 kilos of 50% pure cocaine into the country.The way people cut LSD is they make week blotter or dilute vials, they don't put baby formula in the crystal.


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