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 skullhuman
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 Re: let's talk monotubs  [Re: skullhuman]
#11223289 - 10/10/09 09:07 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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and, in comparison to your output, it seems to be a lot less work to set one of these things up. It's gonna have to go on my to do list.
Tried it with any other species? or would sub depth become an issue?
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 Doc_T
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Re: let's talk monotubs [Re: skullhuman]
#11223301 - 10/10/09 09:09 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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skullhuman said:
Tried it with any other species? or would sub depth become an issue?
No, but there's plenty of depth.
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skullhuman
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Re: let's talk monotubs [Re: Doc_T]
#11223331 - 10/10/09 09:16 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Doc_T said:
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skullhuman said:
Tried it with any other species? or would sub depth become an issue?
No, but there's plenty of depth.
I was just thinking, that if for example, one wanted to try that setup with cyans, one would have to lower off on the substrate depth, possibly meaning less moisture provided to the chamber.
Ah well, I'm probably over analyzing now. Based on the talks we've had so far, a bit more reading, and a little practice, these questions will all be easily answered I'm sure.
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Re: let's talk monotubs [Re: skullhuman]
#11223343 - 10/10/09 09:19 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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shangrila said:
seeing co2 is heavier than air it gets pushed out the lower holes as fresh air comes in from the top holes,
This isn't true. It's technically true in some theoretical sense, but does not apply to FC design. The CO2 doesn't "settle out".
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skullhuman said:
and, in comparison to your output, it seems to be a lot less work to set one of these things up.
Takes a bit of work to make it. Mark it all up with a Sharpie marker and a tape measure, then tape it and drill it. But then once it's done, it's done.
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Re: let's talk monotubs [Re: skullhuman]
#11223349 - 10/10/09 09:20 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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skullhuman said:
I was just thinking, that if for example, one wanted to try that setup with cyans, one would have to lower off on the substrate depth, possibly meaning less moisture provided to the chamber.
You have to fine-tune your misting to your specific environment anyway.
If you had less substrate, you might mist a bit more. But then again, you may not need to- really it depends on your conditions.
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Re: let's talk monotubs [Re: boomsaway]
#11223364 - 10/10/09 09:22 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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My mono tubs are 66 quart and I use 12 1 inch holes.. I put 3 at substrate level on each long side and 3 at the top on the long sides..
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skullhuman
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Re: let's talk monotubs [Re: Doc_T]
#11223368 - 10/10/09 09:23 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ah, I see. I skimmed past the part in your tek that said you didn't fan, and equated that with misting too. Now I've come to see that misting is involved. My bad.
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skullhuman
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Re: let's talk monotubs [Re: skullhuman]
#11223375 - 10/10/09 09:25 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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So, with all these different variations that all seem to put out really well, maybe hole size/placement is mostly just a matter of preference?
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Re: let's talk monotubs [Re: skullhuman]
#11223387 - 10/10/09 09:26 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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skullhuman said:
So, with all these different variations that all seem to put out really well, maybe hole size/placement is mostly just a matter of preference?
Yes and No.. It's also a matter of trial and error.. So after trial and error then comes the preference part..
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Re: let's talk monotubs [Re: skullhuman]
#11223412 - 10/10/09 09:31 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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skullhuman said:
So, with all these different variations that all seem to put out really well, maybe hole size/placement is mostly just a matter of preference?
Completely wrong. Unless you mean the preference of the mushrooms.
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skullhuman said:
Ah, I see. I skimmed past the part in your tek that said you didn't fan, and equated that with misting too. Now I've come to see that misting is involved. My bad.
Again, it depends. I live in an alpine desert. If you are in the Florida Panhandle, not as much of an issue.
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Re: let's talk monotubs [Re: Doc_T]
#11223444 - 10/10/09 09:37 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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i use 65qt tubs and only have 4 holes that are 1/4 inch. i keep a fan running 24hrs in the closet but not directly on them. it's more of a set it forget it deal.
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skullhuman
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Re: let's talk monotubs [Re: Damion5050]
#11223460 - 10/10/09 09:41 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah, I see. It's all a matter of one's environmental conditions, and what they're trying to get out of the grow.
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Re: let's talk monotubs [Re: milkman59]
#11223467 - 10/10/09 09:42 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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4 holes long sides, 2 holes short sides. 1 1/2" holes.
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skullhuman
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Re: let's talk monotubs [Re: skullhuman]
#11223483 - 10/10/09 09:44 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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skullhuman said:
Yeah, I see. It's all a matter of one's environmental conditions, and what they're trying to get out of the grow.
But then again, is it? preference has to factor in to this too. I mean, a tub with 2 inch holes, versus one with 3/4 inch, has to be allowing for more FAE, but both have been shown to perform really well. Of course, like we've established, everyone has to deal with their local climate, but just about everyone can also run a humidifier, and manipulate all kinds of artificial conditions.
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Re: let's talk monotubs [Re: skullhuman]
#11224179 - 10/10/09 11:29 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think this is a good discussion, but everyone reading this and wanting specific numbers for different sized tubs need to keep in mind that it's all just general guidelines. There is all your local factors as well as how tightly the poly-fill is stuffed into the holes. Cubensis will grow in a tub with no holes, so of course all these different designs can and do work well.
One of the good things for bulk sub cultivators to remember is to make sure the subs surface is very level right after you spawn the grains into it. And if you fan, you will need to mist before or after fanning or both before and after if need be. ~P~
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mister
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Re: let's talk monotubs [Re: Psuper]
#11225242 - 10/11/09 07:05 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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I am going to be doing Pan Cyans next round and am debating using a mono that is shorter or using a poor man's pod by putting the sub in trays inside.
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Re: let's talk monotubs [Re: mister]
#11234937 - 10/12/09 06:32 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey mister - it seems that your tubs probably allow for more airflow than the usual designs - seeing as they have more holes and some aren't polyfilled. Do you run a humidifier or a fan in your grow room? what are the ambient conditions like? and is any manual intervention involved or do you set and forget?
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Re: let's talk monotubs [Re: skullhuman]
#11235608 - 10/12/09 08:19 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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This is what the tubs in my sig looked like when fruiting. When I took the pics for the sig, they were being harvested out, that is why you see no polyfil in them. All holes are filled, They are made and left alone till ready. I have a small fan in the room with them on low and timed to come on 15 min of every hour jusr for air flow. That is it.
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Re: let's talk monotubs [Re: mister]
#11235682 - 10/12/09 08:26 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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mister said:
This is what the tubs in my sig looked like when fruiting. When I took the pics for the sig, they were being harvested out, that is why you see no polyfil in them. All holes are filled, They are made and left alone till ready. I have a small fan in the room with them on low and timed to come on 15 min of every hour jusr for air flow. That is it.
Hey how those lights work good ? I was getting ready to do something like that with some 4 foot shop lights, do you turn the tubs or is it not needed ?? Cause I have decided to do 4 at a time now instead of 2..
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Re: let's talk monotubs [Re: Damion5050]
#11235702 - 10/12/09 08:29 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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No you don't need to turn the tubs. There is enough light for them and they don't turn too much. Just hang the light in the middle of the tub.
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