Home | Community | Message Board


This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   North Spore Bulk Substrate   MagicBag.co Certified Organic All-In-One Grow Bags   PhytoExtractum Buy Bali Kratom Powder

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
Offline2Cents
Male


Registered: 12/04/08
Posts: 4,392
Loc: PNW Flag
Last seen: 25 days, 17 minutes
Need some help with spawining to coir/hpoo
    #11220405 - 10/10/09 11:35 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I want to spawn my five 1/2pint cakes to Hpoo and coir but am unaware of a good tek. Iv looked for a little while and haven't found something thats right for me. I was thinking id pasteurize my hpoo coir together in my pc but again I don't know the best way to go about doing that(how to obtain proper moisture lvl?) anyway I just want someone who's experienced with spawning to hpoo to give me some advice(never done it before) thanks shroomery, you rock!:discorex:


--------------------
Long live the Shroomery!!!

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinefundamentalchair
Stand up
 User Gallery


Registered: 07/13/09
Posts: 801
Last seen: 12 years, 9 months
Re: Need some help with spawining to coir/hpoo [Re: 2Cents]
    #11220427 - 10/10/09 11:39 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

there should be a ton of poo pasteurization teks. Most involve hot water, a pillow case, and bulk spawn.


--------------------
semper necessitas probandi incumbit ei qui agit


Sclerotia FAQ... If ya ain't got any stones, grow some.

Will work for Laetiporus sulphureus culture/spores (or any other Laetiporus actually), :pm: me.

My Trade list.

Ghetto Tek: Auto FAE & Light

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleuncle_rico
my own worst enemy
Male User Gallery

Registered: 03/28/06 Happy 18th Shroomiversary!
Posts: 2,664
Re: Need some help with spawining to coir/hpoo [Re: 2Cents]
    #11220440 - 10/10/09 11:43 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Pasteurize it together, wet.  Moisture content isn't critical at this stage.  When you spawn it, if the substrate is too wet, squeeze some moisture out.  If it is too dry, add some more water.

Good luck.


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offline2Cents
Male


Registered: 12/04/08
Posts: 4,392
Loc: PNW Flag
Last seen: 25 days, 17 minutes
Re: Need some help with spawining to coir/hpoo [Re: uncle_rico]
    #11220451 - 10/10/09 11:46 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

ok pasteurization down but what about how I go about spawning my cakes to hpoo coir? I was thinking after I sterilize my hpoo /coir I add 1/3 spawn to sub(sub being 50/50 coir hpoo) by laying a thin layer spawn on bottom then layer it from there in 4 different containers that I will place in my FC


--------------------
Long live the Shroomery!!!

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleuncle_rico
my own worst enemy
Male User Gallery

Registered: 03/28/06 Happy 18th Shroomiversary!
Posts: 2,664
Re: Need some help with spawining to coir/hpoo [Re: 2Cents]
    #11220472 - 10/10/09 11:52 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I just mix my bulk sub. and spawn.

Lots of people layer.  If you layer, do a final top layer of bulk substrate .... avoid the 'frosting' of spawn for a number of reasons.


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offline2Cents
Male


Registered: 12/04/08
Posts: 4,392
Loc: PNW Flag
Last seen: 25 days, 17 minutes
Re: Need some help with spawining to coir/hpoo [Re: uncle_rico]
    #11220504 - 10/10/09 12:02 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

got yea, wasnt planning on frosting but good to know man. thank you


--------------------
Long live the Shroomery!!!

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineDiesel_Dawg
Not a noob

Registered: 05/21/09
Posts: 397
Last seen: 11 years, 8 months
Re: Need some help with spawining to coir/hpoo [Re: 2Cents]
    #11220818 - 10/10/09 01:20 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Good that you aren't. Seems like I see people on here doing that often, and I've always heard of bad results using that method.

IME I really think it is better to cover your top layer of spawn with another layer of sub. If anything, the spawn on top colonizing fast makes you think you're at 100% when you may only be in the 80's for colonization. If you do even layers, you'll know that when the top is done so is the rest.

I'm also fairly sure I remember RR saying somewhere in the archives that grain on top of your bulk would be a warm welcome for contams.

Edited by Diesel_Dawg (10/10/09 01:24 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleuncle_rico
my own worst enemy
Male User Gallery

Registered: 03/28/06 Happy 18th Shroomiversary!
Posts: 2,664
Re: Need some help with spawining to coir/hpoo [Re: Diesel_Dawg]
    #11222180 - 10/10/09 05:42 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

"I'm also fairly sure I remember RR saying somewhere in the archives that grain on top of your bulk would be a warm welcome for contams."

Hey Diesel Dawg .... reading your post gave me an idea ...

I have been experiencing a higher rate of trichoderma contamination than I am comfortable with .... maybe MIXING and having WBS right at the surface is allowing trich to get a start there?

I'll try mixing and then doing a final top layer with straight bulk ... no grains ... and see what happens.

I'm willing to try anything/everything that makes any sense .... and this makes sense.


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineanakin3197
JEDI MASTER
 User Gallery

Registered: 08/21/08
Posts: 1,425
Last seen: 3 months, 3 days
Re: Need some help with spawining to coir/hpoo [Re: uncle_rico]
    #11222276 - 10/10/09 05:56 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

you can crumble the cakes up and mix them together with the bulk sub, or take like a cheese grater and run it downt he side and shred it, and then mizx it up

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offline2Cents
Male


Registered: 12/04/08
Posts: 4,392
Loc: PNW Flag
Last seen: 25 days, 17 minutes
Re: Need some help with spawining to coir/hpoo [Re: anakin3197]
    #11222316 - 10/10/09 06:02 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

i was just gunna crumble the cakes in marble sized maybe slightly bigger chunks but I hear making too small of pieces is bad.


--------------------
Long live the Shroomery!!!

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineanakin3197
JEDI MASTER
 User Gallery

Registered: 08/21/08
Posts: 1,425
Last seen: 3 months, 3 days
Re: Need some help with spawining to coir/hpoo [Re: 2Cents]
    #11222417 - 10/10/09 06:22 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

about the size of a quarter. you could also take a cake slice it in half or a third place a layer of sub, then put 2 of the 3 pieces on top. then break the 3rd into small pieces and scatter around the empty places in the bulk. then add a inch or 2 of more bulk, and put another layer of the cake as before.  theres a tek on here that shows you how to do that.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinetall dwarf
Strange

Registered: 06/11/09
Posts: 199
Last seen: 14 years, 3 months
Re: Need some help with spawining to coir/hpoo [Re: 2Cents]
    #11222470 - 10/10/09 06:33 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

2Cents said:
i was just gunna crumble the cakes in marble sized maybe slightly bigger chunks but I hear making too small of pieces is bad.




I've read that too but it's wrong.  Marble sized chunks are too big, you want smaller pieces = more inoculation points.  And besides, these cakes crumble so easily that you cant avoid breaking them into tiny shreads of pieces, almost as fine as the brf and verm itself.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offline2Cents
Male


Registered: 12/04/08
Posts: 4,392
Loc: PNW Flag
Last seen: 25 days, 17 minutes
Re: Need some help with spawining to coir/hpoo [Re: tall dwarf]
    #11222666 - 10/10/09 07:08 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I see your point Golden_Student but doesn't that also weaken the mycelium by making it so small? I think healthy sized balls:crazy2: would be best.. idk I would like more input. maybe slice cakes into thin sheets?


--------------------
Long live the Shroomery!!!

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibledancefloordale
Research Assistant


Registered: 02/13/09
Posts: 2,522
Re: Need some help with spawining to coir/hpoo [Re: 2Cents]
    #11222814 - 10/10/09 07:32 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Its best to do it small. Think of WBS and rye. Lots of small inoculation points. You want this because it ensures quicker and more even colonization. Larger chunks would only slow the process, giving contams a longer period to take hold and germinate before the myc is able to colonize.

Mycelium forms a network and when you break this network at any point you will see slowed growth. You might as well give it it's beating all at once and do it right.


--------------------
Everything posted by the user dancefloordale, aside from what is written in this here clause is completely and utterly fictitious, despite any information read (or seen), above (or below) that might lead you to believe otherwise.

Hydra Tek - A detailed guide, for newest to the most skilled cultivators.

HCA

Bulk growing made easy-discussion
Bulk Growing Made Easy

Edited by dancefloordale (10/10/09 07:35 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offline2Cents
Male


Registered: 12/04/08
Posts: 4,392
Loc: PNW Flag
Last seen: 25 days, 17 minutes
Re: Need some help with spawining to coir/hpoo [Re: dancefloordale]
    #11222879 - 10/10/09 07:41 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

you have convinced me sir.


--------------------
Long live the Shroomery!!!

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibledancefloordale
Research Assistant


Registered: 02/13/09
Posts: 2,522
Re: Need some help with spawining to coir/hpoo [Re: 2Cents]
    #11222911 - 10/10/09 07:44 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Here is an example of what I mean...


--------------------
Everything posted by the user dancefloordale, aside from what is written in this here clause is completely and utterly fictitious, despite any information read (or seen), above (or below) that might lead you to believe otherwise.

Hydra Tek - A detailed guide, for newest to the most skilled cultivators.

HCA

Bulk growing made easy-discussion
Bulk Growing Made Easy

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offline2Cents
Male


Registered: 12/04/08
Posts: 4,392
Loc: PNW Flag
Last seen: 25 days, 17 minutes
Re: Need some help with spawining to coir/hpoo [Re: dancefloordale]
    #11222922 - 10/10/09 07:46 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Impressive, well I'm most certainly sold on the idea so I'll break my cakes up nice and small.


--------------------
Long live the Shroomery!!!

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1

Shop: Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   North Spore Bulk Substrate   MagicBag.co Certified Organic All-In-One Grow Bags   PhytoExtractum Buy Bali Kratom Powder


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Eco earth coir from petco...
( 1 2 all )
Nikoyo 2,254 21 03/04/18 10:28 AM
by Mykoc
* Post deleted by users_request malibu76 894 6 06/06/02 02:45 PM
by ralphster44
* Would like experienced grower's opinions chuckolah 1,147 16 12/07/04 04:47 AM
by MushroomFriend
* hpoo to hpoo spawn Chrissss 1,045 13 03/19/06 08:44 PM
by Chrissss
* Re: crumbling cakes vs not BaldCuban 1,597 7 04/22/00 08:14 PM
by psilocyber
* Potting soil, crumbling cakes? kranked 930 3 09/01/04 08:09 PM
by Ions
* About to do my first poo casing... questions....Experienced Need plz
( 1 2 all )
Cray 3,906 33 11/22/05 06:04 PM
by Cray
* Using Coco Coir for a bulk grow with WBS Solidcell 2,019 15 02/13/06 05:42 PM
by FungusMan

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Shroomism, george castanza, RogerRabbit, veggie, mushboy, fahtster, LogicaL Chaos, 13shrooms, Stipe-n Cap, Pastywhyte, bodhisatta, Tormato, Land Trout, A.k.a
1,354 topic views. 18 members, 110 guests and 76 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.024 seconds spending 0.005 seconds on 12 queries.