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Good plan or not? (changed subject from jar question after submitting)
    #11218017 - 10/09/09 11:57 PM (8 years, 14 days ago)

Ok let's say someone planned to do some BRF cakes and spread to some bulk sub afterward.  I know everyone has their preferences on mixtures, times, temps, etc.  Is this sufficient to at least start with?

1) tap out 4 holes for injection sites as described in pf for simple minds
2) tap one hole in the center, a little bit bigger (for gas exchange, to be covered with micropore shortly after sterilization)
3) use silicone on the 4 holes for a self healing injection site
4) steam jars (don't have a PC) for 90 min as described in the tek
5) while jars are cooling, immediately cover center (slightly larger) hole with micropore tape
6) once jars are completely cooled, make injections as described
7) wait until world domination is complete (colonization 100%)
8) pasteurize bulk substrate (50/50 cpoo and coir)
9) crumble colonized cakes in bag
10) lay down bottom layer of verm in foil pans about 1/2" and wet with h2o and about 5% h2o2.
11) spread a layer of cake crumblyness
12) add bulk sub (about 4 times height of crumblyness, cpoo/coir mix from above)
13) cover with foil
14) wait for world domination again (white beautifulness showing its face)
15) add casing layer (50/50 peat/coir with calc carb, oyster shells, or whatever the hell i can find to buffer at the moment)
16) put in chamber of fruityness with appropriate humidity maintained (cold mist on a timer set depending on humidity factor), and co2 vent about 1/3 the way up from the bottom.  12/12 hour cycle of a spare reptile bulb (perhaps a heat lamp to increase the temp a couple degrees depending on the conditions at the time).
17) harvest when veil breaks away from stem.
18) eat fruits and go bat shit crazy

Are there any red flag, sure to fuck me over things I'm missing here?


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Re: Good plan or not? (changed subject from jar question after submitting) [Re: Pfffffff]
    #11218055 - 10/10/09 12:04 AM (8 years, 14 days ago)

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Are there any red flag, sure to fuck me over things I'm missing here?




Why not pick a tek and follow it for your first grow?


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Re: Good plan or not? (changed subject from jar question after submitting) [Re: Doc_T]
    #11218068 - 10/10/09 12:06 AM (8 years, 14 days ago)

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Are there any red flag, sure to fuck me over things I'm missing here?




Why not pick a tek and follow it for your first grow?





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Re: Good plan or not? (changed subject from jar question after submitting) [Re: Pfffffff]
    #11218080 - 10/10/09 12:09 AM (8 years, 14 days ago)

Covering your GE hole post sterilization is a bad move.  Just stuff it with polyfill, or use tyvek before sterilizing.

You don't need the bottom casing layer.  Just spawn your cakes to your cpoo/coir mix.

Don't heat your fruiting chamber, it'll just compromise its humidity.  Ambient room temperatures should do the job.  I think 74-77 is ideal, around works too.

And you're likely to have fewer headaches using a shotgun chamber.


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Re: Good plan or not? (changed subject from jar question after submitting) [Re: Damion5050]
    #11218091 - 10/10/09 12:13 AM (8 years, 14 days ago)

You seem to have your bases covered.


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Re: Good plan or not? (changed subject from jar question after submitting) [Re: Damion5050]
    #11218096 - 10/10/09 12:14 AM (8 years, 14 days ago)

Well I want to do jars because it looks like a good method for preventing contam for a noob.  However, I think spawning to bulk and then casing would maximize the yield.  I've read and read and read and read a shitload of teks.  Should I just plop out cakes as described in the PF for simple minds (I tend to favor this one, don't know why)?

I'm 100% open to input, was just trying to go with what seemed to be the right combination of easy enough for a noob and decent yield.


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Re: Good plan or not? (changed subject from jar question after submitting) [Re: Pfffffff]
    #11218126 - 10/10/09 12:22 AM (8 years, 14 days ago)

I guess the question is whether adding in the bulk sub and casing would really increase yield that much.  If I just dunk/roll cakes and let them go to town, would it be substantially less than what I described above?


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Re: Good plan or not? (changed subject from jar question after submitting) [Re: Pfffffff]
    #11218127 - 10/10/09 12:23 AM (8 years, 14 days ago)

You'll definitely get a better yield by spawning.  It ain't a hard procedure to follow either, lots of noobs pull it off.  Quart jars of rye might improve your productivity over cakes as well.


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Re: Good plan or not? (changed subject from jar question after submitting) [Re: skullhuman]
    #11218147 - 10/10/09 12:27 AM (8 years, 14 days ago)

Well that's what I was thinking as well.  A simple (perhaps not the bestest of the best) method for bulk sub.  It does not look that complicated (yeah, I know famous last words lol).

Big ass jars of grain are in my next run.  I don't know why, but the PF stuff makes me feel more comfy.


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Re: Good plan or not? (changed subject from jar question after submitting) [Re: skullhuman]
    #11218154 - 10/10/09 12:29 AM (8 years, 14 days ago)

You'd do well to yield 4 grams from a PF Cake in one flush.  It wouldn't be an outrageous challenge to amplify those results 7x's by going bulk.


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Re: Good plan or not? (changed subject from jar question after submitting) [Re: skullhuman]
    #11218208 - 10/10/09 12:37 AM (8 years, 14 days ago)

...yeah that's what I'm talkin about.  If it's a reasonable plan I'm willing to try it out (hence why I'm asking if it seems reasonable here lol).  Just trying to cover all my bases...sterilization, a stable tek for initial colonization (that's easy enough as a noob), and a basic plan to spawn to bulk.  I'm not looking at doing huge tubs of bulk.  Just smaller trays, but enough to increase my yield beyond what basic cakes would provide.


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Re: Good plan or not? (changed subject from jar question after submitting) [Re: Pfffffff]
    #11218231 - 10/10/09 12:40 AM (8 years, 14 days ago)

I'll read up on shotgun chambers, haven't seen that yet.  Thanks for the tip.


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Re: Good plan or not? (changed subject from jar question after submitting) [Re: skullhuman]
    #11218259 - 10/10/09 12:45 AM (8 years, 14 days ago)

I hear ya.  I found that some of the teks that were supposedly geared towards noobs were a waste of time, and that there was no reason really to use them over bulks, tubs, etc. But I suppose everyone's experience is different.  What tek are you following for your fruiting chamber? I've found the shotguns effective as hell, and they're about as simple as it gets.


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Re: Good plan or not? (changed subject from jar question after submitting) [Re: skullhuman]
    #11218268 - 10/10/09 12:47 AM (8 years, 14 days ago)

In fact, look at this.

All from multispore, all shotgun FC.  No elaborate automated setups, just straight-forward misting and fanning.


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Re: Good plan or not? (changed subject from jar question after submitting) [Re: Pfffffff]
    #11218365 - 10/10/09 01:05 AM (8 years, 14 days ago)

That's a sweet idea...I like it a lot.  I have a good closet and cold mist humidifier that would probably make this a good setup for me...


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