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Psychedelics for escaping or embracing reality?
    #11212444 - 10/09/09 02:36 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

What do you think?
Psychedelics
You may choose only one
Escape
Embrace


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Re: Psychedelics for escaping or embracing reality? [Re: pmb]
    #11212451 - 10/09/09 02:38 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

neither.


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Re: Psychedelics for escaping or embracing reality? [Re: pmb]
    #11212471 - 10/09/09 02:41 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

You need a 'neither' block there.  Psychedelics to me are for dissolving my ego, rather like what Buddhists try to achieve.  And my weakness is I indulge in the ecstasy of all the cool effects, hallucinations, time dilation, etc


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Re: Psychedelics for escaping or embracing reality? [Re: starfirex]
    #11212548 - 10/09/09 02:58 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Embracing 100%



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Re: Psychedelics for escaping or embracing reality? [Re: EdgeChaos]
    #11212607 - 10/09/09 03:10 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

neither.  but more for making my own reality.  a reality that i enjoy and learn from.  and for making me look past what YOU call "reality".


put that choice on a poll.


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Re: Psychedelics for escaping or embracing reality? [Re: redHue]
    #11212714 - 10/09/09 03:32 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

I can't edit the poll, but I wanted to know hear peoples thoughts what what you think about psychedelics helping you escape or embracing the life your currently living in.

I hear the statement people use drugs to escape reality fairly often and I could see how this is true for drugs like opiates, but psychedelics are a whole other animal and I don't think its true for them.


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Re: Psychedelics for escaping or embracing reality? [Re: pmb]
    #11212742 - 10/09/09 03:38 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

yeah man if you're using psychs just to get "fucked up" and to "escape" reality.....then you're in the wrong business.  go abuse some opiates, thats the closest i've come to "escaping reality"...never during a psych trip have i completely not cared about anyone but myself.


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Re: Psychedelics for escaping or embracing reality? [Re: redHue]
    #11212793 - 10/09/09 03:49 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Escape can be had in most drugs but psychedelics tend to bring insecurity and fear out into the open.

They break down any barriers that you have created between yourself and reality. In this way they force you to confront reality, instead of hiding from it.


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Re: Psychedelics for escaping or embracing reality? [Re: EdgeChaos]
    #11212812 - 10/09/09 03:53 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

make a new poll.

and take escape off it.


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Re: Psychedelics for escaping or embracing reality? [Re: showme]
    #11212828 - 10/09/09 03:57 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

make a new poll.

and take psychadelics off it.


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Re: Psychedelics for escaping or embracing reality? [Re: redHue]
    #11212992 - 10/09/09 04:45 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

I use them for learning and ego death


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Re: Psychedelics for escaping or embracing reality? [Re: mudnpool]
    #11213649 - 10/09/09 09:26 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

I honestly don't know how anyone could escape reality trough psychedelics.They bring that shit right in your face and sometimes slam your head against it.Maybe one could use them to avoid reality,but for escaping it,especially the negatives,don't think so.


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Re: Psychedelics for escaping or embracing reality? [Re: 13.step]
    #11213940 - 10/09/09 10:46 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

I don't know how anyone could put escaping, not possible, Opiates and Benzos, yes. Definetily used to embrace reality, let it become more apparent to me and be able to use it in my everyday life.


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Re: Psychedelics for escaping or embracing reality? [Re: pmb]
    #11214030 - 10/09/09 11:08 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Depends on which aspect.


Can't escape your fears, judgements, understanding of reality, imo

Can escape the room your in, your emotions, habits, petty thoughts, the rest of the world in general


fight or flight! get real high



escaping is really only good for one thing, finding yourself on the way back

embracing and accepting builds foundation, which is a mixed blessing, depending on what your building on


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Re: Psychedelics for escaping or embracing reality? [Re: starfirex]
    #11214071 - 10/09/09 11:20 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

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And my weakness is I indulge in the ecstasy of all the cool effects, hallucinations, time dilation, etc




How is that a weakness? I always thought of it as more of a bonus. I mean I understand that mushrooms are primarily a facilitator of mental  exploration. (at least that's how I see it) but I wouldn't feel bad about enjoying the "fun" effects that accompany it.


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Re: Psychedelics for escaping or embracing reality? [Re: pmb]
    #11214590 - 10/09/09 01:07 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

It isn't that simple. Its a little of both. Its definitely an escape. Then as you come back to reality you reintegrate the experience into your life and it becomes the latter.

The peak is the escape and the comedown is the embrace. It has it all wrapped up into one, yin and yang, good and bad, thats why the possibilities are endless!


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Re: Psychedelics for escaping or embracing reality? [Re: drr]
    #11214609 - 10/09/09 01:10 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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It isn't that simple. Its a little of both. Its definitely an escape. Then as you come back to reality you reintegrate the experience into your life and it becomes the latter.

The peak is the escape and the comedown is the embrace. It has it all wrapped up into one, yin and yang, good and bad, thats why the possibilities are endless!




Okay okay, I recant my previous statement and now totally agree with you. Very well said.


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Re: Psychedelics for escaping or embracing reality? [Re: drr]
    #11214950 - 10/09/09 02:12 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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drr said:
It isn't that simple. Its a little of both. Its definitely an escape. Then as you come back to reality you reintegrate the experience into your life and it becomes the latter.

The peak is the escape and the comedown is the embrace. It has it all wrapped up into one, yin and yang, good and bad, thats why the possibilities are endless!




Nicley put,that's somewat what i ment with it rather being a way to avoid reality then to escape it.Your peak is gonna suck if you just take it to get fucked up and run from your problems.


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Re: Psychedelics for escaping or embracing reality? [Re: drr]
    #11215224 - 10/09/09 02:54 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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drr said:The peak is the escape and the comedown is the embrace.





oooh.  i like this thought very much.  well done.


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Re: Psychedelics for escaping or embracing reality? [Re: redHue]
    #11215270 - 10/09/09 03:00 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Both I think.

We use them to escape the reality we know, but by doing so, aren't we entering another?


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