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 Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* 
#11211376 - 10/08/09 09:55 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Im making my own thread, and declaring it official.
This movie was shocking, and made me very angry or otherwise emotional.
Being from Detroit this hit home in to many ways to describe it as comfortable to watch.
I was blown away by FDR's 2nd bill of rights. I have a poli sci degree and never was this mentioned in a book or by a teacher.
I was more blown away by this:
Michael fucking Moore got a member of the US congress to say on camera she felt a coup de etat had taken place in 2008 through congress and the bush regime. 
it is time to take matters into our own hands, bravo you fat, goofy looking brilliant man.
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 Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: rodfarva]
#11211399 - 10/08/09 09:57 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah, the part with the correctional facilities for kids was something I think people need to see, it explains a lot!
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: themostpurple]
#11211551 - 10/08/09 10:16 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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There still isn't at torrent of it available. I guess I'm gonna have to fork over the 8 dollars to go see it.
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: blewmeanie]
#11211581 - 10/08/09 10:19 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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mind blowing
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: blewmeanie]
#11211590 - 10/08/09 10:21 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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but he doesn't want you to see it, that's the point of the movie.
i'll probably pirate it when it comes out... 
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: rodfarva]
#11211606 - 10/08/09 10:24 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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mind blowing
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: blewmeanie]
#11211612 - 10/08/09 10:26 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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the whole movie was highly provoking. Also more intellectual than most of his movies.
Very compelling arguments are made about the capitalist monster.
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: blewmeanie]
#11211618 - 10/08/09 10:27 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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BlowsMen Said:
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There still isn't at torrent of it available
I suggest not being a fucking thief and pirating copyrighted materials.
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: ThePheonix]
#11211640 - 10/08/09 10:29 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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but that's what he wants... i've heard the premise of his movie.
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: rodfarva]
#11211667 - 10/08/09 10:31 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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I didn't realize this movie was out yet
so....I'll give:
what's FDR's 2nd bill of rights?
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: SleepyF0x]
#11211668 - 10/08/09 10:31 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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No torrents or streams anywhere. 
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: ThePheonix]
#11211683 - 10/08/09 10:33 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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BlowsMen Said:
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There still isn't at torrent of it available
I suggest not being a fucking thief and pirating copyrighted materials.
You're just pissy because I called you out for trying to ruin someone elses car.
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: blewmeanie]
#11211692 - 10/08/09 10:34 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Your just pissy cause I called you out for trying to steal movies
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: ThePheonix]
#11211715 - 10/08/09 10:35 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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How exactly do you steal something by making a copy of it?
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: ThePheonix]
#11211729 - 10/08/09 10:37 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've already stolen one movie today!~ 
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: blewmeanie]
#11211754 - 10/08/09 10:40 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Don't play dumb, you are taking money right out of mikes pocket by not paying for it.
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: youbreakyoubuy]
#11211761 - 10/08/09 10:41 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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I didn't realize this movie was out yet
so....I'll give:
what's FDR's 2nd bill of rights?
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: ThePheonix]
#11211776 - 10/08/09 10:43 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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yeah, but if i did not intend to pay for it in the first place, he's not really losing money than is he?
if i was not able to watch it, i wouldn't, i'd find someone who did to tell me about it.
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: ThePheonix]
#11211777 - 10/08/09 10:43 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Don't play dumb, you are taking money right out of mikes pocket by not paying for it.
http://worthywebstylez.co.cc
No I'm not.
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: SleepyF0x]
#11211827 - 10/08/09 10:49 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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I haven't seen the film, but I'm sure he also offers a wide array of alternatives. But what good have such alternatives really ever produced? The problem is NOT capitalism; how could it be? The basic principal of captitalism is human freedom, paricularly, financial freedom. Whenever everyone is free, though, you're going to have some people grabbing more for themselves (and sometimes too much) than everyone else.
The problem, in any form anywhere, is and always will be unmitigated power consilidation. In a capitalisitic society, this takes the form of corporatism, which can usually be pretty ugly. But under other systems, like communism, we see facism and statism, even more absolute and therefore usually more brutal than capitalism ever turns out to be. Their attrocities are usually wide scale genocide and total population control.
Corporations and presidents may have created these things as well to some degree, but at the end of the day corporations and presidents are eventually rubbing up against a mob of private citizens, which prevent the acts from ever reaching the terrible magnitude of those perpitrated under communist dictators.
Obviously, I wouldn't advocate for the pure form of either one of these ideals, since both do create attrocities, and would rather see a balance of the the two.
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: blewmeanie]
#11211851 - 10/08/09 10:52 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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How was the movie.
Ive heard mix things?
I feel im a pretty class orientated guy.
Does it look at other economic theories?
Or does it just focus on the rich getting richer every year?
Sorry I just dont want to shell out 12 bucks to see stuff I've been reading for years.
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: bryguy]
#11211868 - 10/08/09 10:53 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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nice post.
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: rodfarva]
#11211900 - 10/08/09 10:59 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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doesn't he know that making this film was a capitalist venture? it makes the whole MOVIE paradoxical.
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: MistaUNGA]
#11211947 - 10/08/09 11:05 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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im going to take a venture in capitalism and make a movie trailer claiming it to be the best movie ever created and the trailer shrouded in secrecry then display a blue screen for an hour.
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: youbreakyoubuy]
#11212215 - 10/08/09 11:50 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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I didn't realize this movie was out yet
so....I'll give:
what's FDR's 2nd bill of rights?
the beginnings of the welfare state
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Bill_of_Rights
I wanna know where my job with a living wage and my free home are
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: bryguy]
#11212422 - 10/09/09 12:32 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: PartyMarty4000]
#11212791 - 10/09/09 01:48 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Micheal moore uses very distateful manipulation of the people he puts in his documentaries, he edits and splices audio to frame things to how ever he wants. Micheal Moore is feeding the "sheeple" misinformation through HALF-truths and the spoon fed masses will never research any of the points any further.
needless to say his views arn't always wrong, he makes points from time to time.
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: NoFaceToSave]
#11212858 - 10/09/09 02:05 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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You like refering to people as sheeple and you've opted out of ratings? Sounds like you think you're better than everyone, and on top of that you can't take personal criticism.
I'll be sure and add you to the official opt out ignore list if you're not already on it.
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: NoFaceToSave]
#11212925 - 10/09/09 02:26 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Micheal moore uses very distateful manipulation of the people he puts in his documentaries, he edits and splices audio to frame things to how ever he wants. Micheal Moore is feeding the "sheeple" misinformation through HALF-truths and the spoon fed masses will never research any of the points any further.
needless to say his views arn't always wrong, he makes points from time to time.
Its a powerful film even tho its anecdotal and is not trying to make intellectually valid arguments.
His movies center around moralistic themes, and when you watch them with an open mind you can usually step back and see hes pointing out something really fucked up and deeply personal to him.
He hasnt said end capitalism. There is a wide degree of education/stupidity in this country and i think the thesis of the movie appeared when the pilot that landed the plane in the hudson saving 100's of people went before the senate. Moore shows the pilot testifying and he starts saying things like "pilots wouldnt want their kids to follow in their foot steps.." ( because they make shit $ and are responsible for so much and so highly trained.)
but as he continued preaching to a panel that was in basically an empty room, Moore dubbed over his voice with Stars and Stripes Forever.
Its like, when ever someone says "black man" just scream racist and nothing they say matters.
Its the same thing with most in this USA that when someone starts saying something critical of the system,
you can just blast them with "patriotism" propaganda and not listen or try to argue without fallacy.
Go ahead, "moore sucks" and all that, just tell me how exactly he isn't making a provocative argument?
Facts aside, i know when something is wrong, and you arn't going to convince me hes a bad guy for attacking
Big business, big banks, lobbies etc. I dont care if he presented it in a way thats disagreeable, he's not wrong in substance.
Also, you cant attack me for supporting him on the grounds that i agree with everything he says. I don't.
His ideas are worth hearing out, and im highly accredited in terms of educational background (economics, poli sci, sociology etc.) If you dont think this movie points to a compelling argument against they way america is ran today, then you are either part of the %1 elite class that bought the ticket to the promise land and said fuck everyone else (doubtful) or you are just brainwashed. We're really, super truly fucked right now, and if your worried about a slippery slope argument against public welfare policies, you need to step back and realize the government and big business have broken the law over and over again.
The elite run the system. They can break any law they want and no problem. 
W. admitted to illegally authorizing wire tapping, Cheney even shot a guy.
No charges were pressed.
The FBI says (according to :A Love Story) %80 of defaults were caused by illegal practices by banks.
the bank can rob you with little worries. What do you think will happen if you try to rob them?
So i ask again, which is the slippery slope? Moore or the American status quo?
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: rodfarva]
#11213735 - 10/09/09 07:56 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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The story goes, or the way that I was told
There was a king that always felt too high and then he fell too low
And so he called all the wise men to the hall
And begged them for a gift to end the rises and the falls
But here’s the thing, they came back with a ring
It was simple and was plainly unbefitting of a king
Engraved in black, it had no front or back
But there were words around the band that said
Just know: This Too Shall Pass
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: NobodyCares]
#11213747 - 10/09/09 08:00 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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#11213763 - 10/09/09 08:03 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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The story goes, or the way that I was told
There was a king that always felt too high and then he fell too low
And so he called all the wise men to the hall
And begged them for a gift to end the rises and the falls
But here’s the thing, they came back with a ring
It was simple and was plainly unbefitting of a king
Engraved in black, it had no front or back
But there were words around the band that said
Just know: This Too Shall Pass
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: NobodyCares]
#11213778 - 10/09/09 08:08 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: blewmeanie]
#11214132 - 10/09/09 09:37 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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The elite run the system. They can break any law they want and no problem.
W. admitted to illegally authorizing wire tapping, Cheney even shot a guy.
No charges were pressed.
The FBI says (according to :A Love Story) %80 of defaults were caused by illegal practices by banks.
the bank can rob you with little worries. What do you think will happen if you try to rob them?
So i ask again, which is the slippery slope? Moore or the American status quo?
 
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: rodfarva]
#11214170 - 10/09/09 09:45 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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The FBI says (according to :A Love Story) %80 of defaults were caused by illegal practices by banks.
the bank can rob you with little worries. What do you think will happen if you try to rob them?
except that in actuality it was caused by government forcing banks to
make sub prime loans to people that couldnt afford them, had no down
payment and guaranteeing that government would pick up the bad paper, it
then took an act of congress for that to happen, now the banks have the
money, the deeds to homes and they're reselling them for more than
market value
so the banks are robbing us with the assistance of government... again
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: blewmeanie]
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: Olympus Mons]
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: Dynoo]
#11214393 - 10/09/09 10:31 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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No torrents or streams anywhere.
Yeah I can't find one anywhere, all of em are fake. I hope one of you guys can find it.
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: AmericanPsycho]
#11214565 - 10/09/09 11:02 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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If there were no rewards to reap,No loving embrace to see me through
This tedious path I've chosen here,I certainly would've walked away by now.
Gonna wait it out.
If there were no desire to heal The damaged and broken met along
This tedious path I've chosen hereI certainly would've walked away by now.
And I still may ... (sigh) ... I still may.Be patient.
I must keep reminding myself of this.
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: Olympus Mons]
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: blewmeanie]
#11216293 - 10/09/09 03:50 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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go head.
im sure you cant prove me wrong so post some goof ball shit instead.
I win.
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: rodfarva]
#11216337 - 10/09/09 04:00 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Capitalism has fucked up our democracy 
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: blewmeanie]
#11216444 - 10/09/09 04:20 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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i dont know what your all facepalming about, but i wanna facepalm too.
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: niteowl]
#11216462 - 10/09/09 04:23 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Capitalism has fucked up our democracy
given that the US is a republic, I'd have to say that democracy has fucked up our capitalism
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: Prisoner#1]
#11216534 - 10/09/09 04:39 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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anyone find a torrent for it?
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: Deltron3030]
#11216564 - 10/09/09 04:46 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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can the facepalm trolling end plz? fuck why bother i guess.
Prisoner, when are you going to see the movie? ill send you a tix
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: rodfarva]
#11216575 - 10/09/09 04:50 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: rodfarva]
#11216590 - 10/09/09 04:56 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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rodfarva said:
Prisoner, when are you going to see the movie? ill send you a tix
as soon as someone gives enough of a shit to record it and upload it
I appreciate your willingness to send tix but paying for the movie
would go against the values and principals of micheal moore
seriously, why wasnt this a widespread free release if this is opposing a
capitalist system, he didnt seem to care if his other flicks were on the net
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: Prisoner#1]
#11216600 - 10/09/09 04:58 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm sure it will be on the internet by next weekend
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: niteowl]
#11216631 - 10/09/09 05:02 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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it better be... if not, I'm calling Moore personally and telling him to upload it
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: rodfarva]
#11219355 - 10/10/09 06:13 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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rodfarva said:
go head.
im sure you cant prove me wrong so post some goof ball shit instead.
I win.
nah I agree with you, I was facepalming his facepalm. 
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: blewmeanie]
#11219378 - 10/10/09 06:22 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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blewmeanie said:
Quote:
rodfarva said:
go head.
im sure you cant prove me wrong so post some goof ball shit instead.
I win.
nah I agree with you, I was facepalming his facepalm.
lol yeah, i forgot where i was...
"what should i put in a gas tank?" got better responses than this thread.
Still MM did a seriously solid job on this movie, way more intellectually appealing than 911, or columbine.
He got a member of congress to acknowledge a "financial coup de etat" has taken over the US government!
Refute that one point convincingly before trying to discredit MM or anything else in this movie.
Fuck me, that shit is amazing! 
We need to get everyone who approved bail out (the squeal) out of elected office, and preferably charge most with treason/embezzlement.
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: rodfarva]
#11219400 - 10/10/09 06:31 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Is there a place online to see how each individual in congress voted on certain bills ?
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: AmericanPsycho]
#11219497 - 10/10/09 07:09 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Is there a place online to see how each individual in congress voted on certain bills ?
yes
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: AmericanPsycho]
#11219517 - 10/10/09 07:17 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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In the Senate roll cal votes are most common (where every vote is recorded.) However it is less frequent in the house (more than 4x's as many members.)
The truth is most of the voting it done by members shouting out yeh or nay and the leader of that respective half of congress decided who was loudest. I know that sounds fucked up, but thats how it goes. What i find more compelling is the number of rep's or senators that are present for these votes. You can find those numbers with google and a specific vote in mind. just find out when the vote was held and see which elected officials were absent that day. Its fucked up but most of the time only half of them even vote, some that are present dont vote also. there are numerous resources for this info
gpoacces dot gov / crecord
is the comprehensive source for the congress's day to day activity (which lately= what lobbyists have told them to vote on...)
then, when your done finding out who voted for what fucked up bullshit go to
http://www.opensecrets.org/
And see if your politician took money from someone who would benefit...
bet your ass they did if anyone puts the challenge up.
Keep in mind PAC's are ALWAYS mandatory contributions from agents at a certain company.
examples of this are evident when you study the breakdown of donations.
for instance in an oil company heavily supported W. Bush. You will see individual contributions by people working there broke down by their rank in the company. The CEO will donate $2000, each of the exec officers will donate 1800, junior execs will all donate 1500, top managers all donate 1200 etc.
And also bet your ass that each of these people got an amount = to that donation repayed to them as a "bonus" or "profit sharing," meaning the companies go around the law against a business directly investing in a puppet politician by having their employees donate in their individual names. Also notice many dont report their company...
while this is legal in many cases you will frequently see that status as "retired" or "house wife"... now see how many of these housewives have the same last name as a person that reported they worked for the company your investigating. first off you can tell its the persons wife through google, and you can also tell because they will have both donated $1255 dollars as opposed to the man sending $1200 and the woman sending $1205.
Its a loophole that alows corp interests to purchase political leverage. They all do it.
i could type for hours... i wont- most of you already stopped reading.
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: rodfarva]
#11219540 - 10/10/09 07:26 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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I mainly just wanted to check how Ron Paul voted on these bailouts, but he already said he was strongly against it so I'm sure he voted no. And I wanted to see what he voted for on the flavor cig ban.
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Re: Capitalism; a love story. *Official thread* [Re: AmericanPsycho]
#11219557 - 10/10/09 07:30 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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