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    #11210059 - 10/08/09 08:54 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

i was birthing a cake and tragedy struck!  i use quilted jars so it makes the cake rather difficult to birth.. anyways i accidently broke a cake in half and i just dunked the two halfs anyways.  i am using pf tek method so what should i do after i roll verm on the two halfs? maybe put dry verm between the two and stack them? thanks.


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Re: man(cake) down:( [Re: shredder101420]
    #11210087 - 10/08/09 09:01 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Perhaps you might want to consider casing, or spawning it at this point.


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Re: man(cake) down:( [Re: shredder101420]
    #11210098 - 10/08/09 09:02 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I wouldn't think you would need to stack them. Maybe just fruit each half? They may need extra support to stop from tipping over if the shrroms get too heavy.


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Re: man(cake) down:( [Re: shredder101420]
    #11210102 - 10/08/09 09:03 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I've had the same thing happen when I used the Ball quilted jars but I just fruited each half cake and it worked well. If I were you I would case it or maybe spawn to a small tray.


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Re: man(cake) down:( [Re: skullhuman]
    #11210111 - 10/08/09 09:04 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Fruit it as two half cakes. They'll grow half the mushrooms each.


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Re: man(cake) down:( [Re: shredder101420]
    #11210113 - 10/08/09 09:05 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

if i were you i would crumble and case its, but it will still birth as two halves just like one half. the verm roll is a preference, but mushys will grow either way


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Re: man(cake) down:( [Re: Jockin John C]
    #11210139 - 10/08/09 09:09 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

everybody who is saying that he should crumble and case needs to stfu.
are you serious?
crumble and case a half of a cake?
a cake splitting in half is no big deal. just fruit them as halves.

i know a thing or two about cakes. and casing cakes even.
dont crumble and case cakes unless you have a shitload of cakes to use.
that is all.


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Re: man(cake) down:( [Re: prismism]
    #11210145 - 10/08/09 09:10 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Spawning wouldn't be a horrible idea though - if he can have his shit together to pull it off.


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Re: man(cake) down:( [Re: skullhuman]
    #11210157 - 10/08/09 09:12 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

^^ Yeah they would be good for practice at spawning.


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Re: man(cake) down:( [Re: shx764]
    #11210178 - 10/08/09 09:17 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

i am not exactly sure what spawning is, is it like casing?  i think i want to experiment with casing, any ideas on easiest/cheapest way to do so?  i looked at the casing methods and i dont fully understand it.


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Re: man(cake) down:( [Re: skullhuman]
    #11210201 - 10/08/09 09:21 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Spawning is to crumble the cake up completely and use it to inoculate a bulk substrate, such as horse manure or coco coir.  You could preserve the cake in your fridge for a few days if needed to get your bulk sub together, should you choose to go this route.


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Re: man(cake) down:( [Re: prismism]
    #11210226 - 10/08/09 09:26 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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everybody who is saying that he should crumble and case needs to stfu.
are you serious?





he wouldnt just be casing one half dumb fuck, two halves make what.... a whole! is it a pint or a half pint?  I have cased 1/2 pint individuals and still had great results :thumbup:


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Re: man(cake) down:( [Re: Jockin John C]
    #11210293 - 10/08/09 09:35 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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everybody who is saying that he should crumble and case needs to stfu.
are you serious?





he wouldnt just be casing one half dumb fuck, two halves make what.... a whole! is it a pint or a half pint?  I have cased 1/2 pint individuals and still had great results :thumbup:




sorry to inform you of this my friend. but crumbling and casing individual half pint cakes is a complete waste of your time and not going to increase your yields in any way.
im not saying casing is bad.
im saying that when you have a pf cake (broken in half or not)..you will get more bang for your buck if you choose to just dunk and roll rather than crumble and case..which will only waste time and nutrients needed to reorganize the mycellium network after the crumble.


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Re: man(cake) down:( [Re: prismism]
    #11210354 - 10/08/09 09:42 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Yes, but spawning and casing would be totally worth it.  He'd get the opportunity to increase his yield and advance his methods.


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Re: man(cake) down:( [Re: skullhuman]
    #11210410 - 10/08/09 09:48 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Yes, but spawning and casing would be totally worth it.  He'd get the opportunity to increase his yield and advance his methods.




i understand what youre saying and you are not incorrect.
but i still stand by what i say..
when it comes to using pf cakes..i wouldnt use as spawn or case unless you have a lot of jars/cakes to work with.
when i have used pf cakes as spawn in the past the spawn will never end up fully colonizing the bulk substrate unless you use a high spawn/bulk ratio.


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Re: man(cake) down:( [Re: prismism]
    #11210451 - 10/08/09 09:53 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

i crumbled because my cake stalled at 3rd flush, then cased and treated as such.  worked beautifully


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Re: man(cake) down:( [Re: skullhuman]
    #11210458 - 10/08/09 09:54 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Yes, but spawning and casing would be totally worth it.  He'd get the opportunity to increase his yield and advance his methods.




Spawning a half pint is like beating off in a girl's shoe. It misses the whole point.


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Re: man(cake) down:( [Re: Doc_T]
    #11210488 - 10/08/09 09:58 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Yes, but spawning and casing would be totally worth it.  He'd get the opportunity to increase his yield and advance his methods.




Spawning a half pint is like beating off in a girl's shoe. It misses the whole point.




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Re: man(cake) down:( [Re: Doc_T]
    #11210512 - 10/08/09 10:01 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

if you have a half pint and spawn it to a pint of coir, then you will increase your yeilld a little,, you can just stick it in a 3 liter soda bottle.. lice little micro mono tub :smile:


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Re: man(cake) down:( [Re: Slimz]
    #11210767 - 10/08/09 10:33 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

you could also cut them up into cubes and deposit them into more jars.


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