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How the Republican Party could now be broken, perhaps
    #11207709 - 10/08/09 02:53 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Here's what the democrats have the power to do, but aren't doing:

1.  Reject don't ask don't tell
2.  Remove legal distinctions on gay mariage

After doing these two things, which nearly all democrats and some republicans agree on, the most conservative wing of the republican party would become polarized and cast out, to some extent, in relation to prevailing public opinion.  From there, healthcare reform and other reforms would be easier because the RP will not be as unified as before, and public opinion will not be as strongly divided into only two view points.  With the greater definition of the pro-gay republican party from the fundamentalist republican party, the debate would be split between three sides, with the fundamentalists being shut out by both other sides.

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Re: How the Republican Party could now be broken, perhaps [Re: xFrockx]
    #11207838 - 10/08/09 03:12 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

That's actually quite fucking brilliant. You should be president.


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Re: How the Republican Party could now be broken, perhaps [Re: ScavengerType]
    #11209969 - 10/08/09 08:35 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Putting aside your other derivative nonsense, you are quite correct that the Dems could do those things for homosexual rights without any help from Republicans.  Do you feel betrayed yet?


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Re: How the Republican Party could now be broken, perhaps [Re: zappaisgod]
    #11210835 - 10/08/09 10:43 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

lol partisan much?


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- Author and former M6/M5 agent John le Carré on Democracy Now.
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Re: How the Republican Party could now be broken, perhaps [Re: zappaisgod]
    #11211152 - 10/08/09 11:27 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I don't know about derivative nonsense.  Voting at least would be effected for republicans, when some people feel alienated.


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Re: How the Republican Party could now be broken, perhaps [Re: xFrockx]
    #11212187 - 10/09/09 01:43 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Very few Americans want homosexuals to be legally married.


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Re: How the Republican Party could now be broken, perhaps [Re: C.M. Mann]
    #11212703 - 10/09/09 03:29 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

What do you mean by very few?


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Re: How the Republican Party could now be broken, perhaps [Re: xFrockx]
    #11213401 - 10/09/09 07:38 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

> What do you mean by very few?

Less than a majority.  Look at the number of states that have passed constitutional bans on gay marriage.  It is even worse in Latin America where homophobia runs rampant.  There are a lot of Latin American's in the US now, and most of them are Democrat.  It is a mistake to believe that 'nearly all democrats' support gay marriage.  If it were true, then Obama would have taken advantage of an easy win to show that he can at least accomplish something.


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Re: How the Republican Party could now be broken, perhaps [Re: Seuss]
    #11214369 - 10/09/09 12:27 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Point taken.  But, you must admit there is some uncertainty given that it has not become the sort of issue it would if they made it one.  By that I mean, public opinion might swiftly change if it were made a national, imminent issue.


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Re: How the Republican Party could now be broken, perhaps [Re: xFrockx]
    #11214392 - 10/09/09 12:31 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

>  By that I mean, public opinion might swiftly change if it were made a national, imminent issue.

I donno.  I've talked to a lot of people about gay marriage and have been amazed at the vehemence of the opposition towards it.


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Re: How the Republican Party could now be broken, perhaps [Re: Seuss]
    #11214438 - 10/09/09 12:40 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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Seuss said:I donno.  I've talked to a lot of people about gay marriage and have been amazed at the vehemence of the opposition towards it.




Those types of people have already lost the "battle". In twenty years there will be much fewer of them alive or admitting their younger preferences, and gay rights will be accepted like race/gender rights before it.

Incidentally I think Obama will repeal DADT before the end of his term, although it damages what little progressive credentials he holds when he rejects a moratorium on military discharges; should have been done within the first month.


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Re: How the Republican Party could now be broken, perhaps [Re: THC Titan]
    #11214492 - 10/09/09 12:49 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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Those types of people have already lost the "battle". In twenty years there will be much fewer of them alive or admitting their younger preferences, and gay rights will be accepted like race/gender rights before it.




I agree that the younger generations are more accepting and just like racial discrimination has been on the decline, so will gay discrimination decline eventually.  Forty to sixty years more than twenty, but change is inevitable.  However, I don't believe that the change will have any bearing on political parties or political ideology.


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Re: How the Republican Party could now be broken, perhaps [Re: Seuss]
    #11214636 - 10/09/09 01:16 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Homosexuality, is not a healthy state of mind. Respect is a two way street, it's not a right it is earned!


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Re: How the Republican Party could now be broken, perhaps [Re: C.M. Mann]
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Re: How the Republican Party could now be broken, perhaps [Re: THC Titan]
    #11214784 - 10/09/09 01:45 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Civil Unions aren't marriage, are they?


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Re: How the Republican Party could now be broken, perhaps [Re: zappaisgod]
    #11214838 - 10/09/09 01:53 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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Civil Unions aren't marriage, are they?




No, it's merely a watered down alternative. Separate but equal, except of course it isn't equal at all.

The popularity of legalizing gay marriage is definitely lower than 50%, although with the state so intertwined in "religious" marriage, that could be the result of misinformation, i.e. many people believe gays want the right to marry in any church they choose, which is false, clearly.


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Re: How the Republican Party could now be broken, perhaps [Re: C.M. Mann]
    #11215012 - 10/09/09 02:22 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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Homosexuality, is not a healthy state of mind. Respect is a two way street, it's not a right it is earned!




Homosexuality is no less healthy a state of mind than heterosexuality.


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Re: How the Republican Party could now be broken, perhaps [Re: Redstorm]
    #11216808 - 10/09/09 07:38 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

If you look at this subject with out prejudice, you will find that your statement isn't even close to being true. Homosexuals are well above the average in areas such as drug addiction, alcoholism, promiscuity, serious psychological problems... . It goes on and on in every category. Having sex with little children is not healthy, and little children having sex is not healthy. Homosexuality, pedophilia, bestiality, are people with abnormal sexual desires and are not healthy!


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Re: How the Republican Party could now be broken, perhaps [Re: C.M. Mann]
    #11216873 - 10/09/09 07:51 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

same with church officials right?


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Re: How the Republican Party could now be broken, perhaps [Re: C.M. Mann]
    #11217267 - 10/09/09 09:20 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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Homosexuals are well above the average in areas such as drug addiction, alcoholism, promiscuity, serious psychological problems




First off, I'm going to need a source for this.  Even if it is true, it makes sense as these are all coping methods used by those who face psychological trauma (inflicted on them by homophobes like yourself).

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Having sex with little children is not healthy, and little children having sex is not healthy.




What relevance does this have to homosexuality?

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Homosexuality, pedophilia, bestiality, are people with abnormal sexual desires and are not healthy!




Putting homosexuality in a sentence with actual unhealthy behaviors does not make it one.  Put down you bigoted, emotional reasoning for about two seconds and actually try to make a point with some support.


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