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shredder
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dehydrator, yay or nay?
#11201616 - 10/07/09 04:16 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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so i went and picked up this dehydrator the other day and have been using it with great success, yet the only thing that worries me is that i have not taken out the heating element in it so it runs fairly hot, now i know magic mushies are very heat sensitive and psilocybin is broken down quite quicky when exposed to heat, should this be a major issue? have any of you used a dehydrator that runs warm like that and did it destroy the quality of the shroom?
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daytripper05
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Re: dehydrator, yay or nay? [Re: shredder]
#11201632 - 10/07/09 04:18 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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I make mushrooms into tea when I consume them and have never noticed any potency changes. I steep for 30 minutes with the burner on simmering the water so it doesn't cool...I hate cold mushroom tea. While it might be possible, I would say unlikely.
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ck5
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Re: dehydrator, yay or nay? [Re: shredder]
#11201634 - 10/07/09 04:18 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have used a dehydrator w/ no fan and no way to change the temp and everything came out fine. Seems the degradation of psylocibin happens at greater temps. I read something like 200 degrees before real loss occurs.
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daytripper05
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Re: dehydrator, yay or nay? [Re: ck5]
#11201642 - 10/07/09 04:20 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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ck5 said:I read something like 200 degrees before real loss occurs.
I have kept them at boiling temps for 45 minutes before and didn't notice a bit of difference... Heat has never caused any problems with me.
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walletJoker
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Re: dehydrator, yay or nay? [Re: ck5]
#11201645 - 10/07/09 04:21 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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ck5 said: I have used a dehydrator w/ no fan and no way to change the temp and everything came out fine.
same here
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shredder
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Re: dehydrator, yay or nay? [Re: ck5]
#11201651 - 10/07/09 04:22 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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awsome ck5 thanks for the reassurance bro, i talked to a guy about this dehydrator b/c he saw the pics i posted and it was the same one he used to have and said he ran that thing to the ground, hahah used it like every other day and no real potency loss was noticed, and it does really break down at like 200 degrees? if so i'll be aight!
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feelfunny
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Re: dehydrator, yay or nay? [Re: walletJoker]
#11201656 - 10/07/09 04:23 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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i just fan big or small
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shredder
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Re: dehydrator, yay or nay? [Re: feelfunny]
#11201704 - 10/07/09 04:30 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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nice! i realize this isn't such a big deal to be posting about but man i'v heard ALOT of peeps talk about making sure to take the heating element out of the dehydrator before running, like ck5 said the degradation of psilocybin is probably more so around the 200 degree mark and i don't think any of these little dehrydrators push out that much heat, lol, no way!
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Doc_T
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Re: dehydrator, yay or nay? [Re: shredder]
#11201747 - 10/07/09 04:36 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Didn't you ask about this yesterday? Seems like a familiar question.
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shredder
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Re: dehydrator, yay or nay? [Re: Doc_T]
#11201796 - 10/07/09 04:43 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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yeah dude but i had it on for about an hour today and noticed how hot it was getting and know that psilocybin can be broken down quite easily by heat so figured i'd ask about the bitch!
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Doc_T
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Re: dehydrator, yay or nay? [Re: shredder]
#11201828 - 10/07/09 04:49 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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shredder said: and know that psilocybin can be broken down quite easily by heat
You know this? How? Have you researched? Found a link? Because I haven't, and I've been looking for a couple years. As far as I can tell, it is stable at least up to the melting point
I know for a fact you can use boiling alcohol to extract the magic without hurting it. RR talks about roasting shrooms on a open grill. Lots of people make tea or pizza or whatever.
How hot does your dehydrator get? Did you put a thermometer in there, or just your face? (Your face is a better thermometer than it is a hygrometer- but still not very good.)
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shredder
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Re: dehydrator, yay or nay? [Re: Doc_T]
#11201916 - 10/07/09 05:00 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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nah didn't get around to putting the therm in there b/c it's in the terrarium, but however buddy i did put my face close to it and it seemed quite warm! now you say that you'v never had any expirience with the degradation of psiloybin with dehydrators so thats good enough for me and another dude in this post talked about boiling them for near 45 mins hah i know my dehydrators not that hot, so fuck it!
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feelfunny
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Re: dehydrator, yay or nay? [Re: shredder]
#11201930 - 10/07/09 05:01 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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i have cooked on the grill and had a grat time so untill i see some proof i will keep enjoying tham that way when i feel
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Doc_T
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Re: dehydrator, yay or nay? [Re: shredder]
#11201953 - 10/07/09 05:05 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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shredder said: didn't get around to putting the therm in there
So you'd rather worry about nothing than find out if here's something to fear? You'll give yourself an ulcer doing that, you gotta learn to roll with things.
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feelfunny
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Re: dehydrator, yay or nay? [Re: Doc_T]
#11201972 - 10/07/09 05:06 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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mcuh easyer said than done,
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Doc_T
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Re: dehydrator, yay or nay? [Re: feelfunny]
#11202000 - 10/07/09 05:09 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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If it was easy, everybody would do it- but it's valuable and important advice. Remember this: more people have died from worry than were ever killed in war.
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shredder
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Re: dehydrator, yay or nay? [Re: feelfunny]
#11202004 - 10/07/09 05:10 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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damn lecturing, i just got into this hobby all i'm doing is asking questions about shit thats not nonsense in my opinion! i guess i'm am a little worried though man first harvest i don't want to fuck it all up with a cheap dehydrator
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cyb3rtr0n
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Re: dehydrator, yay or nay? [Re: Doc_T]
#11202016 - 10/07/09 05:12 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm worried that might be a true fact
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Doc_T
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Re: dehydrator, yay or nay? [Re: cyb3rtr0n]
#11202024 - 10/07/09 05:13 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Shredder: Trust the old timers. You are doing fine. Now STOP WORRYING!
Cyber: I got it from Heinlein, may or may not be true. But it makes a point.
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Re: dehydrator, yay or nay? [Re: Doc_T]
#11202030 - 10/07/09 05:14 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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I set my dehydrator on 105 and leave them in there for a couple days some times. Never been a problem.
Now I have had a problem with heat before, or at least I think the heat is what did it. I went on vacation to the beach. I took a bottle full of my magic gel caps (ground my mushies into powder and you get the idea). I figured the waves and the vibes would go well together. The night I got to the resort I popped a few and they worked like normal. I took the bottle with me planning to take some when I hit the beach. Forgot about them along the way. They sat in the car for several hours and roasted. That night I got them out and had to eat three times as many to get less than half the buzz from the night prior.
Regarding cold mushroom tea, I mix it with raspberry lemonade powder I use the Gatorade Propel brand. It rocks! I mix up a gallon and take it to bonfire parties.
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