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Cebil seeds
    #11201344 - 10/07/09 05:30 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

So I just got my cebil seeds in the mail today. O yea... its going down tonight. I just had a few questions. Do cebil seeds increase tolerance significantly with one use and I want to breakthrough, so what would be a good dose for breathrough BUT not overdoing it? O yea my first attempt is going to be smoked (with a bowl full of northern lights x blueberry, some outdoor dank, and thunder fuck :laugh:). Please help me out!!!


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Re: Cebil seeds [Re: Azrah]
    #11201713 - 10/07/09 06:32 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

They don't build tolerance too fast. If you're smoking them, it's more pleasant to take several long slow drags rather than try to smoke as much as you can as quick as you can (as is best with DMT).

Dosage with the seeds is a funny thing, it depends a lot on the particular seeds that you have.

From the Anadenanthera link in my sig:
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Dosage Equivalency Between Seeds and Bufotenine?


Inevitably the question will come: How many grams of seeds is equivalent to a milligram of bufotenine?  The answer unfortunately is not straightforward.

Anadenanthera seeds typically will contain 1-4% bufotenine by weight. At 1%, 0.1g seeds will contain 1 mg bufotenine; at 4%, 0.025g seeds will contain 1 mg bufotenine.  Of course weak seeds can get as low as 0.2% (0.5g seeds per mg), and immature seeds even as low as 0.02% (5g seeds per mg... these may account for some "bunk seeds" on the market).  Meanwhile the most potent fresh seeds have been reported to contain as much as 7.4% in A. peregrina (0.0135g seeds per mg) and 12.4% in A. colubrina (0.008g seeds per mg).

This is why it's best to first guage the potency of your seeds by preparing some for smoking (see Preparing the Seeds below) and starting with perhaps a half a gram. Since the effects of smoking yopo are best when the dose is taken casually in several tokes over the course of several minutes, you can also get a feeling for whether you've got potent seeds before you're smoked the whole test dose.

To summarize, a gram of Anadenanthera seeds may contain:
  • 0.1-0.5 mg bufotenine from immature seeds
  • 1-5 mg bufotenine in weak seaks
  • 10-40 mg bufotenine in typical seeds
  • 60-80 mg in rare strong cases, typically from fresh seeds
  • 124 mg in the strongest specimens measured (fresh Argentinian A. colubrina)
Considering that variation, the potency of each batch of seeds clearly has to be guaged in its own right; you can't assume that your batches of seeds (or sometimes even seeds within those batches) will be consistent in their potency.




And the relevant dosage with pure bufotenine (generally bufotenine is the only desirable active present in the seeds in any appreciable amount):

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  • Vaporized
    Dosage (with bufotenine free-base)
    - Mildly Active: 1-4 mg
    - Threshold: 5-7 mg
    - Fully Active: 10-30 mg

  • Intranasal and Sublingual
    Dosage (with bufotenine free-base)
    - Mildly Active: 5-25 mg
    - Threshold: 25-35 mg
    - Fully Active: 35-80 mg





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Re: Cebil seeds [Re: Entropymancer]
    #11201759 - 10/07/09 06:38 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks for the info entrop. Actually about to go experiment with them right now. Smoked some green for nausea, since there was no alkaline salt around, but I did cook them. Send some vibes this way :P.


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Re: Cebil seeds [Re: Azrah]
    #11201913 - 10/07/09 06:59 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

That was wierd.... in a good way


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Re: Cebil seeds [Re: Azrah]
    #11202425 - 10/07/09 08:13 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Good ways are good.
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Re: Cebil seeds [Re: Legoulash]
    #11202653 - 10/07/09 08:48 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Felt like something was around me the whole time... Some type of force thats hard to explain. Also no nausea felt at all :smile:. Tried 4 seeds next time I will dose higher mayber trying the snuff out and eventually snuff and smoke at same time and see where that brings me.


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Re: Cebil seeds [Re: Azrah]
    #11204019 - 10/07/09 11:58 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Order some Daturia stramonium seeds and eat 3 of them the next time - you won't have to worry about nausea at all. They counteract nausea, a wonderful gift if I might say so myself.

A tradition among natives regarding cebil is to drink beer/wine while smoking it so you have a buzz which pairs very nicely with the bufotenine psychedelia.


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Re: Cebil seeds [Re: Psychedelicious]
    #11204037 - 10/08/09 12:01 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

IIRC you can use baking soda for the alkaline salt


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