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The agricus genus..
    #11199111 - 10/07/09 10:28 AM (8 years, 18 days ago)

Are there any fataly poisonous mushrooms in the Agricua genus?
Are there any that can cause bad pain and sickness?


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Re: The agricus genus.. [Re: RonPaulVerm]
    #11199203 - 10/07/09 10:49 AM (8 years, 18 days ago)

Say it after me: A-ga-ri-cus. :wink:

1) No
2) Yes. Gastrointestinal syndrome will occur when you eat certain Agaricus species, most notably Agaricus xanthoderma (but also A. placomyces). It has an unpleasant chemical carbolic ink smell.


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Re: The agricus genus.. [Re: RonPaulVerm]
    #11199373 - 10/07/09 11:22 AM (8 years, 18 days ago)

yeah xanthodermus, placomyces, californicus etc will make u puke.
nasty nasty nasty nasty mushrooms

overall the Agaricus genus is fairly safe though

the rule is with the smell, if it smells sweet and good its probably an edible agaricus, the only exception ive noticed is sometimes the yellow-staining ones (the ones with the toxins), can either smell strongly of chemicals or like a regular store-bought mushroom, so use this step with the utmost carefulness. you should post them here if u can with a good description of the smell, people would probably be able to ID out the nasty ones.


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Re: The agricus genus.. [Re: cyanophilus]
    #11199403 - 10/07/09 11:33 AM (8 years, 18 days ago)

i smelled ones in my yard that were like nut-like/cat piss...is that some sort of chemical smell i'm not recognizing?
I don't have cats
I posted it here, http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11180738


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Re: The agricus genus.. [Re: RonPaulVerm]
    #11199405 - 10/07/09 11:34 AM (8 years, 18 days ago)

Cat piss smells like ammonia. I'd call that a chemical smell I guess.


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Re: The agricus genus.. [Re: BlimeyGrimey]
    #11199453 - 10/07/09 11:46 AM (8 years, 18 days ago)

i smelled them again now that they're half dried out they smell more of nuts, like almonds
agaricus bitorquis...almost positive now


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Re: The agricus genus.. [Re: RonPaulVerm]
    #11200313 - 10/07/09 02:30 PM (8 years, 18 days ago)

Maybe a cat was marking it's territory and planned on eating it later....:wink:


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Re: The agricus genus.. [Re: Twiztidsage]
    #11200504 - 10/07/09 02:59 PM (8 years, 18 days ago)

I've noticed that a lot of agarics will smell fishy/pissy when rained on. Even the ones from the grocery store can be a bit stinky if you whiff them up close. Maybe it's because of the stuff they break down to metabolize? It might create a smell...

As per your other post I think it's A. bitorquis

very tasty. I had some the other day, actually- sauteed with chanterelles and butter. mmm.


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Re: The agricus genus.. [Re: cameal]
    #11200607 - 10/07/09 03:15 PM (8 years, 18 days ago)

now they're getting to be mature and a tad dry andn I know with some plants and fungi it's usually recommended to eat the young specimens
Have you experienced the mature agaricus bitorquis? anyone recommend it?
and thanks so much for all your responses guys :thumbup:


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Re: The agricus genus.. [Re: RonPaulVerm]
    #11200820 - 10/07/09 03:52 PM (8 years, 18 days ago)

Agaricus Arvensis gives me stinky farts.


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Re: The agricus genus.. [Re: Bretdaniel]
    #11263838 - 10/17/09 04:41 AM (8 years, 9 days ago)

It's definitely best to eat buttons- they are the most pleasing. That being said, I have eaten mature a. augustus and a. bitorquis and they were great, though softer and deflated quite a lot after cooking. The main problems with mature mushrooms, in my mind, are that they lose texture and often become riddled with larvae or bugs... which can be rather off-putting.

I'll see if I can fish up some of my mature a. augustus meal photos for you if you're interested.


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Re: The agricus genus.. [Re: cameal]
    #11264962 - 10/17/09 01:02 PM (8 years, 8 days ago)

it seems harder to identify buttons? do you take a different approach in doing so?


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Re: The agricus genus.. [Re: RonPaulVerm]
    #11265080 - 10/17/09 01:24 PM (8 years, 8 days ago)

The yellow staining varieties stain especially strong on the margin on the buttons, so thats one way. Also if you know the patch is an edible agaricus, its unlikely that its growing intermixed with another species.


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Re: The agricus genus.. [Re: thelaughingman]
    #11268110 - 10/17/09 11:16 PM (8 years, 8 days ago)

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The yellow staining varieties stain especially strong on the margin on the buttons, so thats one way. Also if you know the patch is an edible agaricus, its unlikely that its growing intermixed with another species.




Yup- and smell is a big indicator for me, too. If it smells phenolic- somewhat like chemical/sickly sweet then likely it's not an edible Agaricus. Any Agaricus that smells like almonds is good. Pissy smell doesn't indicate much except moisture, in my mind. Also always mind the gills- they'll always be brown upon maturity.

It's good to be familiar with your spots for the buttons. They will grow back in the same area. Sometimes there will be a mixture of mature and button mushrooms. Pick one mature and the rest buttons so you can take the print if you are uncertain. It's best to leave a few mature caps around to proliferate spores.


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Re: The agricus genus.. [Re: cameal]
    #11268467 - 10/18/09 12:18 AM (8 years, 8 days ago)

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I'll see if I can fish up some of my mature a. augustus meal photos for you if you're interested.




Here is a photo of A. Augustus when mature, then that same mushroom sauteed and served with tomatoes from the garden and toast.



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Re: The agricus genus.. [Re: cameal]
    #11269228 - 10/18/09 02:58 AM (8 years, 8 days ago)

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I'll see if I can fish up some of my mature a. augustus meal photos for you if you're interested.




Here is a photo of A. Augustus when mature, then that same mushroom sauteed and served with tomatoes from the garden and toast.





cameal don´t do that :crazy2: iam hungry


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