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Invisiblenowwhoutthink
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does time exist???
    #11198351 - 10/07/09 03:33 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

well..maybe its my state of mind, but who tells us what time it is??? and shit??  time kinda just isnt real....


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Re: does time exist??? [Re: nowwhoutthink]
    #11198362 - 10/07/09 03:39 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Time is an illusion that has purpose... for now.


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Re: does time exist??? [Re: nowwhoutthink]
    #11198365 - 10/07/09 03:39 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

What does something need to be 'real'?


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Re: does time exist??? [Re: Dug a Sprogie]
    #11198382 - 10/07/09 03:47 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I believe time is a system. Just a system, a way to keep track of the suns rotation so people know when to plant food or get ready for winter. A way to keep track so one may know when to move for the winter. Its almost a prediction. Yes time exist, if one has created it and thinks it exist.


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Re: does time exist??? [Re: DieCommie]
    #11198388 - 10/07/09 03:49 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Our collective perceptions seem to contribute to it somewhat from what i have seen in my short and humble time so far here on earth. I think if everyone suddenly was utterly convinced that red was blue at the same time, it would manifest in some way.


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Re: does time exist??? [Re: nowwhoutthink]
    #11198415 - 10/07/09 04:01 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Yes time does exist. Time is a fundamental component of our dimension/universe. It's not just a man-made concept. It actually exists and in fact there is a direct link between gravity and the flow of time. Time is just a creation of our reality that exists to establish a sequential order of events to prevent everything from happening simultaneously. It's just an illusion of our reality and perception but it does exist within the tapestry of our physical universe.


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Re: does time exist??? [Re: NlightNd1]
    #11198474 - 10/07/09 04:31 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

i believe there is night and day...even with work and school, time is just a thing. It doesnt really make sense to me.


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Re: does time exist??? [Re: nowwhoutthink]
    #11198809 - 10/07/09 08:25 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Does space exist?

Does time exist?

we can create a model and this model will have spatial and temporal dimensions.

thats what time and space are - they are dimensions.

No one can tell you what time it is, or where in the universe you are, for sure, because all values on these dimensions are relative.

When someone tells you it is 2 pm, they mean that the point in time is 2 units away from what would be accepted as 12 pm. There might be no such thing as 12 pm, but people accept it and agree upon it (and if clocks ever started disagreeing to any significant degree then there would be issues on our hands).
Similarly, we define points in space by agreed upon land marks, eg the north and south poles.

In the end though, time and space only exist between points. Time must exist somehow, because something happens, and then something else happens, and then something else again happens, and the relationship between these things is defined by the time and place that things occured in the universe

just because we give 'time' and 'space' words, does not mean they are 'things' out there that are present or not present.

They automatically become 'something' when we percieve different objects as being present at different values on certain dimensions


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Re: does time exist??? [Re: nowwhoutthink]
    #11198882 - 10/07/09 09:00 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

It doesnt really make sense to me.

I'm guessing this is just the tip of the iceburg.:shrug:


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Re: does time exist??? [Re: Icelander]
    #11199255 - 10/07/09 10:58 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

naH...just the whole thing boggles my mind sometimes...


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Re: does time exist??? [Re: nowwhoutthink]
    #11199309 - 10/07/09 11:07 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

everything is mind boggling.


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Re: does time exist??? [Re: Icelander]
    #11199318 - 10/07/09 11:10 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I think time is kind of like this


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Re: does time exist??? [Re: Noteworthy]
    #11199332 - 10/07/09 11:12 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Time is like being at Burning Man?


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Re: does time exist??? [Re: Icelander]
    #11199352 - 10/07/09 11:16 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

well it was just something brought up between friends during our delic sessions and time always came up...and it just boggles our heads.:eek:


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Re: does time exist??? [Re: Icelander]
    #11199354 - 10/07/09 11:18 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Maybe... ive never been.

I was interested to find out that the potential of fire twirling was relatively unknown before this 'Burning Man' festival you speak of


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Re: does time exist??? [Re: nowwhoutthink]
    #11210033 - 10/08/09 08:49 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

You could say that time is just a unit we use to measure different occurrences. The sun sets at a certain time. It rises at another time. Winter comes around at a certain time of the year. Summer at another. The Earth takes 365 days to orbit the sun.

So if you look at it that way, then time is just a measurement that we make up.

However, considering that all of these things have rules for when they happen and we're not the ones to control them you could also say that time is real and does exist. 

The sun will always rise at a known time. We do not control when it does, we just notice that it always follows a pattern. Everything to do with "time" follows a pattern and therefore we can give certain names to certain points of the pattern.

So whether you call it time or not, it is still there.

But then again, time also changes depending on different circumstances. For example the Earth takes longer to orbit the sun than Mercury does. So there must be a source to it.

For everything that we know, the sun is that source. But what happens if you go to another galaxy? There is another sun, another source of "time" that would be different depending on the size and pull of the sun. But what holds the galaxies together? As we cannot map everything that exists in the entire universe and beyond we have no way of knowing. There could be a central figure that has a pattern for every galaxy and absolutely everything. Perhaps that is what the idea of "God" may be. The ultimate power.

I don't know, I'm bored and rambling but it's just something to think about.


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Re: does time exist??? [Re: nowwhoutthink]
    #11211539 - 10/09/09 12:15 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

It exists in the same way the metric system does :shrug:


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Re: does time exist??? [Re: Cameron]
    #11211560 - 10/09/09 12:17 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Cameron said:
It exists in the same way the metric system does :shrug:




Everywhere but thermodynamics?


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Re: does time exist??? [Re: Band of Gypsys]
    #11211575 - 10/09/09 12:19 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I don't know much about thermodynamics. Could you please elaborate? :smile2:


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Re: does time exist??? [Re: Cameron]
    #11211621 - 10/09/09 12:27 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Cameron said:
I don't know much about thermodynamics. Could you please elaborate? :smile2:




Every class in school used the metric system except thermodynamics.

My car gets 80 rods/hectre. :slowtard:


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