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Help ID pnw
    #11194862 - 10/06/09 06:09 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Habitat: PNW. In the soil along the creek. Many trees in the area.

Gills: Not sure. If needed I can go back and collect a specimen.

Stem: 1" tall. 2mm diameter. Further details can be gathered, I just don't have one right off hand.

Cap: Carmel orange to yellow.

Spore print color: Again, sorry. Didn't bring any home.

Bruising: No bruising noted.

Other information: They grew in big clusters. EVERYWHERE!!!









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Re: Help ID pnw [Re: Lanc3r117]
    #11194878 - 10/06/09 06:11 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Armillaria? Pholiota?, those are my 2 educated guesses.


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Re: Help ID pnw [Re: TheShroomanizer]
    #11197688 - 10/07/09 01:15 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I can go out for a further description if needed. I'm not sure where to start on these. What do I do to seperate this into a genus?


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Re: Help ID pnw [Re: Lanc3r117]
    #11197738 - 10/07/09 01:21 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

lets see some pics of the undersides of the mushroom

spore print colors are one of the most neglected, and yet one of the most important factors in the identification of a mushroom. it also helps to take pictures of your spore prints in good natural lighting to see how others might depict the color.


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Re: Help ID pnw [Re: Lanc3r117]
    #11197742 - 10/07/09 01:22 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Psathyrella sp.


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Re: Help ID pnw [Re: CureCat]
    #11197770 - 10/07/09 01:26 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Okay, thanks CureCat. I can use genus to get me started. I just didn't think I was going to come home and post pictures, so I didn't grab anything to sporeprint.

Eh, I ramble. Peace!  :peace:


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Re: Help ID pnw [Re: Lanc3r117]
    #11197810 - 10/07/09 01:30 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Maybe Psathyrella candolleana or P. piluliformis...  But there are a lot of really similar species in the genus, so it is difficult to be sure.


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Re: Help ID pnw [Re: CureCat]
    #11198198 - 10/07/09 02:41 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Top pic looks sort of like Jack-o-Lantern, Omphalotus illudens


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Re: Help ID pnw [Re: fortytwo]
    #11198221 - 10/07/09 02:48 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Top pic looks sort of like Jack-o-Lantern, Omphalotus illudens



Except that they are Psathyrella.


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Re: Help ID pnw [Re: CureCat]
    #11198235 - 10/07/09 02:52 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Hahaha!

I was wondering about these but I was mostly thinking Psathyrella.


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Re: Help ID pnw [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #11199449 - 10/07/09 11:45 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

What about them makes you think Psathyrella? I'd like to become accustomed to the mushrooms enough to know the look of certain genuses. What's the mental breakdown on just looking at a photo and declaring that those are Psathyrella?


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Re: Help ID pnw [Re: Lanc3r117]
    #11200267 - 10/07/09 02:21 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

The shape of the caps of the mature mushrooms, the splitting of the cap of some (so the cap looks like it has petals), the hygrophanous cap of the younger ones, the habitat... 

Go compare some photos of P. candolleana on google and you will see similarities.

The colours are kind of off in your photos, though.  Too yellow.  It makes the mushrooms resemble Conocybe, though I know that they are not that.


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Re: Help ID pnw [Re: CureCat]
    #11200544 - 10/07/09 03:05 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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The shape of the caps of the mature mushrooms, the splitting of the cap of some (so the cap looks like it has petals), the hygrophanous cap of the younger ones, the habitat... 

Go compare some photos of P. candolleana on google and you will see similarities.

The colours are kind of off in your photos, though.  Too yellow.  It makes the mushrooms resemble Conocybe, though I know that they are not that.




Hey, thanks so much. I posted to get an ID, but you have given me exactly what I needed, an idea of how you differentiated that mushroom from all the others in the world. With the knowledge you've shared with me I can upgrade my arsenal in fungi identification. Again, thanks a lot. I really appreciate your help and willingness to share what you know so I, and others, can benefit from your previous experiences and research.


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Re: Help ID pnw [Re: Lanc3r117]
    #11200551 - 10/07/09 03:06 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

The colors aren't off in the photos, that is the color they are when I look at them through my naked eyes. Strikingly yellow.


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Re: Help ID pnw [Re: Lanc3r117]
    #11200575 - 10/07/09 03:09 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Cool,  no problem.  I am more than happy to share with people who are actually interested and willing to learn about mushrooms.

Regarding the colours- I can see that the sun was hitting them in a few of the photos, the last image (in the shade) is more what I would consider normal colouration for this mushroom.

The gills of these mushrooms are normally light to dark brown, but not yellow nor orange (as in a few of the photos, with the sun illuminating the gills through the cap).

Happy hunting.


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