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Enough Fiber Optic to circle the globe 25K Times.
    #11192500 - 10/06/09 11:29 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

This NPR Radio article got me thining. We have branched out our communicaiton through light expandning enough fiber optic medium to circle the globe 25,000 times. I wonder how closely this amount of fiber adds up to about the same ratio of nerve paths within the body.

Like fiber optics sending data from one node to the next, our CNS works similarly.

And like our pulmonary system that pumps blood to vital organs. We have laid millions of miles of underground plumbing.

The list goes on an on.

Sewage and septc vs. digestive tract.

70% water on earth vs. 70% water in the body.

electrical grid vs. muscle acetyltriphosphate

computer systems vs. brain.

Transportation system vs. Capillary networks.

Are we evolving the earth into a giant technological organism? OR is the earth just using our evolution to an end to it's means of evolving?

Why is it that we have made a representation of ourselves out of the planet when we could have designed something much greater from the beginning.


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Re: Enough Fiber Optic to circle the globe 25K Times. [Re: Fraggin]
    #11192525 - 10/06/09 11:36 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I had that thought several years ago on the side of a mountain looking down a long valley at my town and several towns all connected by freeway lights. It was a very lonely spot and I was alone there all night and I was just coming down from five and a half grams of shrooms. When I saw all those tiny lights they all seemed connected and the tiny car lights moving up and down along them I could only think of neural pathways with signals going along. I realized that all the connections bore some resemblance to a large computer or brain.

Then I went home.


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Re: Enough Fiber Optic to circle the globe 25K Times. [Re: Icelander]
    #11192540 - 10/06/09 11:40 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

it is life imitating life.and some times life imitating life imitating life.it is what we are.


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Re: Enough Fiber Optic to circle the globe 25K Times. [Re: astralexplosion]
    #11193619 - 10/06/09 03:02 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Are we evolving the earth into a giant technological organism? OR is the earth just using our evolution to an end to it's means of evolving?

Consciousness is using the master template.
Germinate, connect, colonize, fruit, seed.:mushroom2:


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Re: Enough Fiber Optic to circle the globe 25K Times. [Re: TheBalance]
    #11194630 - 10/06/09 05:37 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I think things are as they always have been only different.


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Re: Enough Fiber Optic to circle the globe 25K Times. [Re: TheBalance]
    #11198278 - 10/07/09 03:04 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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Are we evolving the earth into a giant technological organism? OR is the earth just using our evolution to an end to it's means of evolving?

Consciousness is using the master template.
Germinate, connect, colonize, fruit, seed.:mushroom2:




The master template is unfolding atop itself, and consciousness happens to be a result.  IMO.


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Re: Enough Fiber Optic to circle the globe 25K Times. [Re: Sleepwalker]
    #11198876 - 10/07/09 08:58 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Too bad it's such dumb all over consciousness.:satansmoking:


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Re: Enough Fiber Optic to circle the globe 25K Times. [Re: Fraggin]
    #11199294 - 10/07/09 11:04 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

All your comparisons are physically similar, but not functional equivalent. The only one that will be functionally similar is fiber optics when the machines become sentient.


Edited by Band of Gypsys (10/07/09 11:42 AM)


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Re: Enough Fiber Optic to circle the globe 25K Times. [Re: Band of Gypsys]
    #11199381 - 10/07/09 11:25 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Our technology is an extension of us. It is 'alive' or 'part of an organism' in a similar way that hair is...


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Re: Enough Fiber Optic to circle the globe 25K Times. [Re: Noteworthy]
    #11199425 - 10/07/09 11:40 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Hair is grown inside the body.


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Re: Enough Fiber Optic to circle the globe 25K Times. [Re: Icelander]
    #11199565 - 10/07/09 12:10 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

tools are made inside men's hands


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Re: Enough Fiber Optic to circle the globe 25K Times. [Re: Noteworthy]
    #11199608 - 10/07/09 12:19 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Not inside.


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Re: Enough Fiber Optic to circle the globe 25K Times. [Re: Noteworthy]
    #11199612 - 10/07/09 12:20 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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Noteworthy said:
Our technology is an extension of us. It is 'alive' or 'part of an organism' in a similar way that hair is...




I like that perspective.  Technology is a naturally evolved trait that evolution has selected.  I cant help but think that viewing it as somehow separate from nature and not continuous with the rest of life is an effect of religious doctrine.  God makes the earth just fine and then man fucks it up with 'unnatural' things - such a distinction is arbitrary and ridiculous.


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Re: Enough Fiber Optic to circle the globe 25K Times. [Re: DieCommie]
    #11199631 - 10/07/09 12:25 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

It's alive, like shovels.


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Re: Enough Fiber Optic to circle the globe 25K Times. [Re: Fraggin]
    #11200581 - 10/07/09 03:10 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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Fraggin said:

Why is it that we have made a representation of ourselves out of the planet when we could have designed something much greater from the beginning.




Like what?

All you can ever do is recreate yourself in some way shape or form

Does any of it last anyway...

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Re: Enough Fiber Optic to circle the globe 25K Times. [Re: Chronic7]
    #11200764 - 10/07/09 03:43 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

The mistake is thinking that what we produce is somehow separately motivated from all other nature in the first place.

Quick, shout the only explanation for what is, and find yourself silent.


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Re: Enough Fiber Optic to circle the globe 25K Times. [Re: Sleepwalker]
    #11200977 - 10/07/09 04:22 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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Oweyervishice said:
Quote:

TheBalance said:
Are we evolving the earth into a giant technological organism? OR is the earth just using our evolution to an end to it's means of evolving?

Consciousness is using the master template.
Germinate, connect, colonize, fruit, seed.:mushroom2:




The master template is unfolding atop itself, and consciousness happens to be a result.  IMO.




“It has occurred to me lately—I must confess with some shock at first to my scientific sensibilities—that both questions [the origin of consciousness in humans and of life from non-living matter] might be brought into some degree of congruence. This is with the assumption that mind, rather than emerging as a late outgrowth in the evolution of life, has existed always as the matrix, the source and condition of physical reality—that stuff of which physical reality is composed is mind-stuff. It is mind that has composed a physical universe that breeds life and so eventually evolves creatures that know and create: science-, art-, and technology-making animals. In them the universe begins to know itself.”

- George Wald, (Noble laureate and professor of biology at Harvard University) wrote this in an article entitled “Life and Mind in the Universe” which appeared in the peer-reviewed journal the International Journal of Quantum Chemistry: Quantum Biology, symposium 11 (1984): 1-15.


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Re: Enough Fiber Optic to circle the globe 25K Times. [Re: TheBalance]
    #11201428 - 10/07/09 05:44 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

or not:shrug:


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Re: Enough Fiber Optic to circle the globe 25K Times. [Re: Icelander]
    #11201453 - 10/07/09 05:47 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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Icelander said:
or not:shrug:



:hehehe:


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Re: Enough Fiber Optic to circle the globe 25K Times. [Re: TheBalance]
    #11203327 - 10/07/09 10:30 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)



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