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Twiztidsage
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"New" Drug targets teens...
#11191277 - 10/06/09 12:33 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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CBS Atlanta - Oct. 5th 2009
ATLANTA -- A trendy new drug is targeting teens. It's easily accessible and some say highly dangerous.
Salvia is a hallucinogenic that has been outlawed in 14 states, but it is still legal in Georgia and there are no laws limiting who can buy it. CBS Atlanta’s Wendy Saltzman found Salvia for sale in several metro Atlanta stores.
Most smoke shops like Smoke 9-Eleven here in Roswell don't allow kids under 18 into their stores to buy Salvia, but it only takes a few clicks of a mouse for kids of any age to get on line and get this drug delivered to their door.
Salvia is the hottest high for teens looking for a rush. They can smoke it, chew it, or drink it.
The new "it" drug is being splashed across the internet with teens marketing to teens, posting their experiences online for everyone to see. Shawn Burdge of Smoke 9-Eleven says Salvia hits within 30-seconds of smoking it and the high, which he describes as an "out of body" experience, lasts for several minutes.
"It's a hallucinogen and it's potent,” said Burdge. “Basically what I was seeing was the room, but basically like a cartoon version of the room.”
That escape has been compared to using LSD and may sound inviting to thrill-seeking teens.
“Even if it affects you just a little bit, it is still drastic at the same time. It's still a removal from day to day life,” said Burdge.
But the Drug Enforcement Administration said Salvia is potentially dangerous and officially tagged it as a "drug of concern."
“What we are seeing are some very extreme psychoactive reactions to the substance. Basically losing all control at that time, of where they are at, what they are doing. Sometimes you will see them fall over from uncontrollable laughter, things like that,” said DEA spokesperson Rodney Benson.
Benson said the DEA is evaluating Salvia to potentially place the drug on the federal controlled substances list.
“Clearly there is an abuse. We are starting to see states around the country on their own beginning to outlaw that substance,” said Benson. In Georgia, not only is it legal, but there is no age limit on who can buy it.
“Another concern for me is the ease on the availability to get that substance,” said Benson.
Anyone can buy Salvia online with no ID and no age restrictions and have it delivered overnight.
But what some say is a dangerous substance that needs federal control, others say is mostly hype.
“It’s not as deadly as they seem to think it is,” said Burdge.
It could took take the DEA a year or more to make that ruling about whether or not to regulate Salvia and make it a controlled narcotic.
You can check out Salvia for yourself by going to these Web sites:
http://www.getsmartaboutdrugs.com/content/drugs.aspx?duid=691e5f9f-56ec-41be-aed9-4b9614f73865&dc=6&dcpud=1d5fc3bc-2611-45a4-8f4f-27f6e149a6c1&df=6
http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/concern/salvia_divinorum_and_salvinorin_A_November_2008_first_fact.pdf
http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/index.htm
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learningtofly
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Re: "New" Drug targets teens... [Re: Twiztidsage]
#11191289 - 10/06/09 12:37 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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rofl a plant is going after teenagers!
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Twiztidsage
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Re: "New" Drug targets teens... [Re: Twiztidsage]
#11191331 - 10/06/09 12:54 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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this plant must be dangerous "Sometimes you will see them fall over from uncontrollable laughter, things like that,” said DEA spokesperson Rodney Benson".
"It's a hallucinogen and it's potent,” said Burdge. “Basically what I was seeing was the room, but basically like a cartoon version of the room.”
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Magick
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Re: "New" Drug targets teens... [Re: Twiztidsage]
#11191338 - 10/06/09 12:55 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Wonder why there's so much about this in the news as of now.
I hate the way these news articles are so biased though -_- Why can't they be fair and balanced? (And yeah Fox is no exception.)
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learningtofly
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Re: "New" Drug targets teens... [Re: thatsaname]
#11191370 - 10/06/09 01:05 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
thatsaname said: this plant must be dangerous "Sometimes you will see them fall over from uncontrollable laughter, things like that,� said DEA spokesperson Rodney Benson".
"It's a hallucinogen and it's potent,� said Burdge. �Basically what I was seeing was the room, but basically like a cartoon version of the room.�
laughter = dangerous duh
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Re: "New" Drug targets teens... [Re: Magick]
#11191388 - 10/06/09 01:11 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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A drug is targeting teens??? AWE FUCK!!!! Chemicals have become sentient and are now literally plotting amongst themselves to kill your children.
“It’s not as deadly as they seem to think it is,”
why would anyone use "as deadly" instead of "not deadly at all" to describe a drug that has killed zero people in thousands of years of human use.
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Re: "New" Drug targets teens... [Re: Twiztidsage]
#11191448 - 10/06/09 01:30 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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How does Salvia effect the Earth? Is there any toxic waste that has to be disposed? If you have kids and dont want them to use Salvia, then educate them about it. Why do people who dont approve of someone els try to be a big brother? The DEA thats all we need more control. If kids become criminals after taking salvia, blame the kid and there parents. You cant blame Salvia because people are un educated and dont want to be responsible. As long as Salvia or any other drug doesn't have toxic waste then I would recommend thinking twice before waving any of my rights to it or promote being controlled about what I can do and can not do.
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Re: "New" Drug targets teens... [Re: CapHat]
#11191478 - 10/06/09 01:38 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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If one wants true freedom then one has to allow another to be truly free. Now this still means having repercussions for actions.
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Re: "New" Drug targets teens... [Re: CapHat]
#11191619 - 10/06/09 02:39 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Salvia has been compared to LSD?
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psilocybica
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Re: "New" Drug targets teens... [Re: Twiztidsage]
#11191639 - 10/06/09 02:48 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
That escape has been compared to using LSD and may sound inviting to thrill-seeking teens.
Its nowhere near as fun as acid. But it is a lot cheaper, and easier to come by some would say.
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Re: "New" Drug targets teens... [Re: psilocybica]
#11191813 - 10/06/09 04:58 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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All these minors posting pics and video on youtube acting stupid have sealed the fate of this plant, way to go Jr!
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Quote:
and some say highly dangerous.
a plant thats never killed anyone is being quoted as dangerous. wtf?
Edited by ShroomerRoss (10/06/09 05:24 AM)
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Quote:
learningtofly said: rofl a plant is going after teenagers!
haha shit that made me laugh
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Re: "New" Drug targets teens... [Re: ShroomerRoss]
#11191919 - 10/06/09 05:59 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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all these recent articles are is just the government telling the press, hey, we want to ban salvia, so please publish our propoganda so that ppl will support the ban. Drug targeting our teens... wow, ppl have to be stupid.
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Re: "New" Drug targets teens... [Re: psilocybica]
#11191961 - 10/06/09 06:23 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
psilocybica said:
Quote:
That escape has been compared to using LSD and may sound inviting to thrill-seeking teens.
Its nowhere near as fun as acid. But it is a lot cheaper, and easier to come by some would say.
bullshit! salvia is 20-60 dollars a gram in michigan. acid is maybe 10-15 and you trip all day
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lazyfingers
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Looks like the government wants to drive up the price on an already expensive and boring drug... oh no, please stop... not salvia.
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Re: "New" Drug targets teens... [Re: lazyfingers]
#11192617 - 10/06/09 10:01 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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i keep seeing the same ariticles about the same things. are we satisfied with the amount of news pertaining to salvia yet?
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LoveYourLife
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Re: "New" Drug targets teens... [Re: burtonRebel]
#11192685 - 10/06/09 10:17 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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That's complete bullshit but salvia is not on my list of drugs to do. If I'm going to smoke something intense, I'd much rather it be DMT.
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Re: "New" Drug targets teens... [Re: burtonRebel]
#11192687 - 10/06/09 10:19 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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“It’s not as deadly as they seem to think it is,” .... should say "It's not as fun as they seem to think it is,"
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Re: "New" Drug targets teens... [Re: ThaiTea]
#11192963 - 10/06/09 11:08 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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lmao
"Most smoke shops like Smoke 9-Eleven here in Roswell don't allow kids under 18 into their stores to buy Salvia, but it only takes a few clicks of a mouse for kids of any age to get on line and get this drug delivered to their door."
Smoke 9 is my local smoke shop and they sure do ID everybody now (thank god they didnt when I was under 18 )
but what they dont state is that the gas stations across the street sell cheaper and stronger salvia and dont ID anybody
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Re: "New" Drug targets teens... [Re: ThaiTea]
#11193007 - 10/06/09 11:17 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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who cares about salvia anymore. I, for one, will be glad when they do make the stuff illegal, so I can stop wasting my time reading these idiotic articles hoping there might be something "new" like they claim. I am pretty sure salvia would just phase out if it were scheduled, because no one (that I know of) will risk smuggling,dealing,possessing something so lame.......imo
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Re: "New" Drug targets teens... [Re: justablip]
#11193134 - 10/06/09 11:41 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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the problem is that making things illegal is a way to address a problem, but in the end only makes matters worse. Maybe instead of getting salvia, teens will try inhalants for a quick cheap legal high. The point I'm getting at is that criminalizing drugs doesn't stop people from wanting to do them, and often times leaves people to explore legal alternatives that aren't always as safe as the illegal drugs they would most likely prefer.
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Twiztidsage
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I remember when my buddy bought an ounce of salvia off of the internet for 25 dollars.....
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Re: "New" Drug targets teens... [Re: Smitington]
#11193291 - 10/06/09 12:09 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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"New Drug"
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Re: "New" Drug targets teens... [Re: oxalic32]
#11193717 - 10/06/09 01:16 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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phew thank god im 20 and salvia isnt out to get me anymore
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Re: "New" Drug targets teens... [Re: ThaiTea]
#11193946 - 10/06/09 01:50 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
ThaiTea said: �It�s not as deadly as they seem to think it is,� .... should say "It's not as fun as they seem to think it is,"
This.
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Re: "New" Drug targets teens... [Re: esyflyr]
#11194262 - 10/06/09 02:44 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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I wonder what the unedited version of that head shop owner's interview looks like. Probably waaaaay more logical information in favor of the drug, as opposed to the limited info that the author of this article clearly hand picked to get his/her point across.
I also love how all the links at the end of the article are clearly not biased sources when it comes to drugs in anyway. Clearly a .gov site wouldn't be biased, it's the government! Why would they lie??!
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Re: "New" Drug targets teens... [Re: justablip]
#11196239 - 10/06/09 07:41 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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why so much hate on salvia? I think its a very amazing experience but I have only tried it once. It may be pricy but I think I will remember my 10 dollar experience with salvia a hell of a lot longer than all the money I've spent using weed...(shrooms you could probably make a case for though)But even shrooms for an eigth I didnt experience anything more memorable than salvia. I think its just the insane visuals that made me love it, something I havent experienced on weed or shrooms
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Salvia for me = mass confusion + small flashbacks lasting for a month after the experience
I'm still all for it's legality tho
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Re: "New" Drug targets teens... [Re: Smitington]
#11197645 - 10/06/09 11:09 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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In the case of saliva, prohibition will actually work. like justablip said "because no one (that I know of) will risk smuggling,dealing,possessing something so lame"
Salvia is not a recreational drug and if your are looking to get high it is one of the worst drugs I can think of.
All that this means is that the people who use it for it's entheogenic value become criminals. Once they stop selling it in stores use amongst most people WILL drop.
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Re: "New" Drug targets teens... [Re: Twiztidsage]
#11197754 - 10/06/09 11:23 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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When I read this article, i honestly could only think of how stupid this writer sounds. He comes off as dumbfickled airhead that just wants to get an article out that sounds "hot" and ready to send the editors into a rush filled craze! ya! lol but really he just sounds like a naive guy that doesnt know anything about salvia
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Re: "New" Drug targets teens... [Re: ThaiTea]
#11198355 - 10/07/09 01:36 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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I can't believe it. Could it really be that whipping up ignorant mass hysteria is a highly profitable enterprise?
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I saw a wholesaler, yesterday, offering freebies to people who post videos.
I've watched them.
Most are teeny boppers, using casually.
Kids are indeed being targeted.
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Re: "New" Drug targets teens... [Re: durian_2008]
#11199531 - 10/07/09 10:05 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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High concentrates are serious stuff, FWIW - not on par with easily conceivable, everyday emotions.
If someone surprised me with it, I would feel violated on a level which runs much deeper than the physical body.
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floydisgod
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Re: "New" Drug targets teens... [Re: ThaiTea]
#11202384 - 10/07/09 06:08 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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i thought it was an incense... but when i inhaled it i went to a carnival
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Re: "New" Drug targets teens... [Re: oxalic32]
#11207823 - 10/08/09 01:10 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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oxalic32 said: "New Drug"
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Re: "New" Drug targets teens... [Re: ShroomerRoss]
#11208146 - 10/08/09 02:00 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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A trendy new drug is targeting teens.
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Most smoke shops like Smoke 9-Eleven here in Roswell don't allow kids under 18 into their stores to buy Salvia, but it only takes a few clicks of a mouse for kids of any age to get on line and get this drug delivered to their door.
yet its still targeting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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