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OutThisLife said:
You're thinking too much. That's okay though, I suppose. It's very easy to show somebody what they're doing is wrong and have them beg for some kind of forgiveness; then you tell them to not do that. You tell them to just lead their life without hatred from there on.

You're just not trying. You're assuming, you're sitting around doing nothing but thinking.

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First let me state, that I don't have anything against you at all. In fact, I do come to love most people I meet. That's because it's not people I don't like, it's the things that the DO that I sometimes don't like. And since what one does defines a person, too many bad actions could lead to me disliking a person.

Now, I'm disappointed that you said I am thinking to much. Not because I feel like you insulted me, but because I feel like people don't think enough. People don't use their brains a lot of the time.
It seems to me a disgrace with  people don't use their ability to think. We're smart creatures, but so many of us like to be stupid. And I'm not calling anyone here stupid.


And no, it's not always "very easy" to show someone they are doing something wrong. Some people are so submerged in their way of things, so deep into their own rabbit hole, that they will never change, ever, no matter what you say. I don't know where you live, but I'm pretty sure you consider the plane crashes into the twin towers to be immoral, wrong. Now try telling the people that organized that to never do it again. People don't change just because you tell them something. Even your close friends. Through example and time people can change, and sometimes they need the push but it has to be their own initiative to change.

And finally, when you say that I am not trying, that I'm just sitting around and doing nothing but thinking, this bothers me to the core. It doesn't offend me, and it doesn't make me dislike you, but it greatly concerns me.
Why? Because don't you think that statement in itself is a HUGE assumption? I lead a life far more productive and inspiring than most people do. I say to others what I believe they need to hear and I listen to others for what I need to hear. I do what I believe believe down to my heart and soul to be right. I avoid mindless conversation and I avoid regression. I always push forward. I try to change the world as much as I can, and I do that by what I can change immediately around me.
Yes, I am always thinking, but I'm not always sitting. Instead I'm thinking and doing.

I get what you are trying to do, and I think its a good cause, but simply proclaiming Love is all won't do what you want it to. Spread your uniqueness, live a life of proactivity, and love without holding back. But don't hold back to opposing the things you disagree with and don't love. Again, I get what you are trying to do, and I respect it, but there is far more to leading life than Love.

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OutThisLife said:
Yet you sit around and watch them continue in their confused mindset? Yet you don't try to change anything from within these people? You just assume they're stuck? Or you assume they actually believe what they're doing is right? Hmph.

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that's the thing, there doing all this knowing fully what they are doing.
people don't give a shit and care for something as illusion as money.
there are good people in this world.
but it's the rotten ones in the bunch that ruin the beauty of the picture.

do you think there is none who gave such a view point as i have?
it has been don many times but people don't listen.
i don't conform to violence so if you got any valid ideas i would love to hear them.

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LifeLike said:
This guy thinks he is better than everyone who doesn't agree with him because he has this idea to change the world with a 4 paragraph internet blog.

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astrogenic said:
I think only God can love unconditionally. There is no end to his love. It's not like I can be God and be unharmed by society. What's there to love about getting shot by a gun or dealing with every day life annoyances? I think that's where the ego comes in and of course, learning how to effectively deal with a situation by balancing love and ego.

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VoidMasamune said:
No, I'm actually rather serious.
I hate humanity - they're messing with my planet, they're ignorant and ugly... What is there not to hate? ...If you want to see nature, they will murder trees and print a colorful picture of nature on it.

Love isn't everything... I prefer knowledge and direct experience shared with the people you are attuned to during philosophical conversation in deep forests on herbal psychedelics.

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OutThisLife said:
Yet you sit around and watch them continue in their confused mindset? Yet you don't try to change anything from within these people? You just assume they're stuck? Or you assume they actually believe what they're doing is right? Hmph.

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that's the thing, there doing all this knowing fully what they are doing.
people don't give a shit and care for something as illusion as money.
there are good people in this world.
but it's the rotten ones in the bunch that ruin the beauty of the picture.

do you think there is none who gave such a view point as i have?
it has been don many times but people don't listen.
i don't conform to violence so if you got any valid ideas i would love to hear them.

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Not so. I bet you gave them 4 grams and left them alone in the woods they would come back humbled. People can change. Don't judge them for who they are in their state of ignorance. Why not devote your life to awakening humanity?

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so i will drug people and put them in the woods?
sounds like a looong job.
and they say ignorance is bliss, more like a job well unspent.
other than that i do try to make people realize, just lots aren't willing to listen.

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TheMerryGangster said:

Love is everything. All the things you just complained about would be completely eradicated if humans could learn universal love and compassion for everything. Everything would be Utopian and love is the ONLY way to obtain the type of society hippies like me dream about.

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TheMerryGangster said:

Love is everything. All the things you just complained about would be completely eradicated if humans could learn universal love and compassion for everything. Everything would be Utopian and love is the ONLY way to obtain the type of society hippies like me dream about.

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Good, go ahead and love stuff... Meanwhile, I'll keep hating the ones that don't.

Then when hippies become the standard and there is nothing left to hate, I will still hold dearly the beauty I see in negativity without hating.

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I didn't need your permission haha, you have fun with that outlook

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TheMerryGangster said:
I didn't need your permission haha, you have fun with that outlook

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VoidMasamune said:
I'm not trying to bash your point of view though, if the entire world would be more like what you describe it would improve... Less preconceptions.
Until then (and probably after that too if it where the case to ever happen) it's just not for me.

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Just to clear up any possible misunderstandings, friend.

I respect what you stand for as well.

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Protoman said:
To love all is to blindly walk though life. To dream of a Utopian society is just that, a dream and only a dream. Life experiences are created out of "love" and "hate. We learn and teach through many means, don't limit yourself. I don't love everything around me, I save my love for what I believe truly deserves it, though my belief is my opinion, and so is my love.
What I try to do is understand, and appreciate, all that is around me. To know why people act the way they do. I'm not going to try and change a beings way of perception though frivolous words, instead  do my best to know why they are the way they are and if they learn something from me then awesome because I certainly learned from them. A world full of hippy ass "love everything brah" is extremely horrible to think about, it would get very old very fast. Life is created though a multitude of experiences and feelings, to deny any is to dilute yourself.
Although, dilution isn't necessarily a bad thing I just believe it causes to much focus on only one aspect of life.

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