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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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OfflineTheBalance
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Re: Prison or Freedom? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #11193108 - 10/06/09 11:36 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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LunarEclipse said:
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PsyAlien said:
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TheBalance said:
Talking handcuffs and manstuff
Right? We will fuck you.
This is a coup.
Not because you're humble,
But because of your mumble.
:uptosomething:




i've being fucked from the day i was born,
so another fuckman ain't gonna change my soul,
and what you said...,
about my mumble?
cause i'm talking like a humble?




a humble bumble bee
tried to fly yessiree
too fat
splat





So he was scooped up and detached with a spatch
Readied for the rematch.
Powdered and capsuled another batch.
Like a humble?
No.
Like this time its not an option to fumble.
A fuckman can cause you to crumble.
Your soul is a bowl.
Leave the talking to the indole.:mushroom2:

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Re: Prison or Freedom? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #11193188 - 10/06/09 11:48 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

what you talking about Luna???:confused:

if you saying what i'm thinking, then forget about.
it's not a good idea to wear a used underwear.

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Re: Prison or Freedom? [Re: PsyAlien]
    #11193208 - 10/06/09 11:52 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

You guys belong together.:thumbup:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Prison or Freedom? [Re: PsyAlien]
    #11193213 - 10/06/09 11:53 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

If you define paradise as nothingness and hell as being able to experience good and bad (whether there is more good or more bad is irrelevant, your brain will compensate by making the few good experiences you have all that more wonderful) then ok... whatever... next...


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"Nature is like a sculptor constantly improving upon her work, but to do so she chisels away at living flesh." H.K. Bloom

"Is God willing to prevent evil but not able? Then he is not omnipotent...
Is he able but not willing? Then he is malevolent...
Is he both able, and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him god." Epicurus c. 300 BCE

"When I brought up the fact that 'No drug is good or bad, they're all just A drug, what someone does with them determines the postive or negative outcome. Look at medicine, those are drugs' Reponse was that 'well medicine solves problems' well so does LSD." -Learningtofly

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Re: Prison or Freedom? [Re: TheBalance]
    #11193654 - 10/06/09 01:07 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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TheBalance said:
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LunarEclipse said:
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PsyAlien said:
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TheBalance said:
Talking handcuffs and manstuff
Right? We will fuck you.
This is a coup.
Not because you're humble,
But because of your mumble.
:uptosomething:




i've being fucked from the day i was born,
so another fuckman ain't gonna change my soul,
and what you said...,
about my mumble?
cause i'm talking like a humble?




a humble bumble bee
tried to fly yessiree
too fat
splat





So he was scooped up and detached with a spatch
Readied for the rematch.
Powdered and capsuled another batch.
Like a humble?
No.
Like this time its not an option to fumble.
A fuckman can cause you to crumble.
Your soul is a bowl.
Leave the talking to the indole.:mushroom2:




did someone said it's match?
how can it be rematch?
you trying hit when i'm not ready?
beware you weaselly fighter
my soul is bowl
and you are on the edge to fall.

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Re: Prison or Freedom? [Re: Icelander]
    #11193669 - 10/06/09 01:11 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Icelander said:
You guys belong together.:thumbup:





and why is that?
because you feel out of the game?

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Re: Prison or Freedom? [Re: PsyAlien]
    #11193812 - 10/06/09 01:30 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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did someone said it's match?
how can it be rematch?
you trying hit when i'm not ready?
beware you weaselly fighter
my soul is bowl
and you are on the edge to fall.




Indeed its a strike anywhere.
Prepare for fifth grade foursquare.
Nightmare glare warfare.
Ready?  Steady.
No fighter just brighter.
Fell like Humpty's eggshell
Then back up the wall to ring the Liberty bell.
Elevator, ladder, or stairwell.

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Re: Prison or Freedom? [Re: mozhual]
    #11193915 - 10/06/09 01:46 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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mozhual said:
If you define paradise as nothingness and hell as being able to experience good and bad (whether there is more good or more bad is irrelevant, your brain will compensate by making the few good experiences you have all that more wonderful) then ok... whatever... next...





if you never been dead how can you know if it's good or bad?
well that's how i know...
living with ignorant pervert mother fuckers who doesn't care to steal and rob and to exploit from weak because he weak to save the strong because he have the power, name or money, and how you call it wise man? heaven? paradise? maybe you're government consist with many many angels, and you are defiled to see there wings.


nothingness ????  did you ever see the dead? not suffering, not complaining, with no pain, in peacefully laying done and don't mind what happened, what dreams they have? what life they living? don't speak like ignorant, just see the facts with opened eyes and don't hide.

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Re: Prison or Freedom? [Re: PsyAlien]
    #11193997 - 10/06/09 01:59 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

That's exactly it, no facts or evidence of any kind to make anyone believe anything happens when you die other then the ending of your conscious existence. Only ignorance and fear would make some one think differently.

Also, less rambling nonsense please.


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"Nature is like a sculptor constantly improving upon her work, but to do so she chisels away at living flesh." H.K. Bloom

"Is God willing to prevent evil but not able? Then he is not omnipotent...
Is he able but not willing? Then he is malevolent...
Is he both able, and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him god." Epicurus c. 300 BCE

"When I brought up the fact that 'No drug is good or bad, they're all just A drug, what someone does with them determines the postive or negative outcome. Look at medicine, those are drugs' Reponse was that 'well medicine solves problems' well so does LSD." -Learningtofly

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Re: Prison or Freedom? [Re: TheBalance]
    #11194134 - 10/06/09 02:21 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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TheBalance said:
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did someone said it's match?
how can it be rematch?
you trying hit when i'm not ready?
beware you weaselly fighter
my soul is bowl
and you are on the edge to fall.




Indeed its a strike anywhere.
Prepare for fifth grade foursquare.
Nightmare glare warfare.
Ready?  Steady.
No fighter just brighter.
Fell like Humpty's eggshell
Then back up the wall to ring the Liberty bell.
Elevator, ladder, or stairwell.




don't say the pointless words
just hit to kill me.
ooo by the way,
if i'm still alive,
the nightmare,
and the glare of warfare
that you bring upon me,
don't you thing
that is my idea,
to put the prove
to bring the boooooooooom!
and if you so much brighter
then with you,
i gonna light her,
to see the earth on fire
and put you in retire.

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Re: Prison or Freedom? [Re: mozhual]
    #11194187 - 10/06/09 02:28 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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mozhual said:
That's exactly it, no facts or evidence of any kind to make anyone believe anything happens when you die other then the ending of your conscious existence. Only ignorance and fear would make some one think differently.

Also, less rambling nonsense please.




so it's all about what you believe right?


then tell me.... why you believe that when you die it's gonna be the end of your conscious existence?

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Re: Prison or Freedom? [Re: PsyAlien]
    #11194220 - 10/06/09 02:35 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Its not about belief at all... there is evidence that consciousness ends, there is not evidence that anything else happens.

If you don't want to or can't handle that fact, just test your theory and get back to me.

OR rather if you want more evidence for my point, just ask and ye shall receive.


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"Nature is like a sculptor constantly improving upon her work, but to do so she chisels away at living flesh." H.K. Bloom

"Is God willing to prevent evil but not able? Then he is not omnipotent...
Is he able but not willing? Then he is malevolent...
Is he both able, and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him god." Epicurus c. 300 BCE

"When I brought up the fact that 'No drug is good or bad, they're all just A drug, what someone does with them determines the postive or negative outcome. Look at medicine, those are drugs' Reponse was that 'well medicine solves problems' well so does LSD." -Learningtofly

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Re: Prison or Freedom? [Re: mozhual]
    #11194495 - 10/06/09 03:21 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

how you can give evidence that based on theory???


if the physicians came to conclusion that the universe death "the black hole" doesn't destroy the universe information, how can you say that your death will end your consciousness?


oo by the way can you please give me evidence that death ends consciousness?

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Re: Prison or Freedom? [Re: PsyAlien]
    #11194546 - 10/06/09 03:27 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Consciousness is defined by brain activity, when that activity ceases, so does consciousness. I really should not need to say anything more about that, anything beyond that is dishonest speculation in either degree.

Blackholes and "universe information"(not actually a thing as far as I know but nice try?) have nothing to do with consciousness. Relating the two is simply:
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Package-dealing

The fallacy of failing to discriminate crucial differences. It consists of treating together, as parts of a single conceptual whole or “package,” elements which differ essentially in nature, truth-status, importance or value.





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"Nature is like a sculptor constantly improving upon her work, but to do so she chisels away at living flesh." H.K. Bloom

"Is God willing to prevent evil but not able? Then he is not omnipotent...
Is he able but not willing? Then he is malevolent...
Is he both able, and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him god." Epicurus c. 300 BCE

"When I brought up the fact that 'No drug is good or bad, they're all just A drug, what someone does with them determines the postive or negative outcome. Look at medicine, those are drugs' Reponse was that 'well medicine solves problems' well so does LSD." -Learningtofly

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Re: Prison or Freedom? [Re: PsyAlien]
    #11194560 - 10/06/09 03:29 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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PsyAlien said:
it is.
because it's more of hell




I agree but that's not true for everyone most likely.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Prison or Freedom? [Re: mozhual]
    #11194898 - 10/06/09 04:14 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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mozhual said:
Consciousness is defined by brain activity, when that activity ceases, so does consciousness. I really should not need to say anything more about that, anything beyond that is dishonest speculation in either degree.

Blackholes and "universe information"(not actually a thing as far as I know but nice try?) have nothing to do with consciousness. Relating the two is simply:
Quote:

Package-dealing

The fallacy of failing to discriminate crucial differences. It consists of treating together, as parts of a single conceptual whole or ?package,? elements which differ essentially in nature, truth-status, importance or value.








what you talking about, everything can be defined by brain activity.
you can mathematically explain the material but can you explain mathematically the soul?
if your brain can't understand and won't agree with what not logical, can it be that this is not right?
how can you argue with what bad for me and good for you and agree with it, to make you happy and me miserable?

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Re: Prison or Freedom? [Re: mozhual]
    #11198228 - 10/07/09 12:51 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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mozhual said:
Consciousness is defined by correlates with brain activity




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Re: Prison or Freedom? [Re: Sleepwalker]
    #11198600 - 10/07/09 03:41 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

That's why when you are knocked out, its called losing consciousness. Your consciousness (if you can even call it that) is the way it is because of the way neurons in your brain are arranged and has nothing what so ever to do with some third party spiritual force. When those neurons are sending out information correctly, you are conscious... and when they aren't you are either unconscious, dead, or have serious brain damage for ever altering you conscious.

"You have a soul, but it is made of billions of tiny robots" D.C. Dennetta world renown modern philosopher, in an interview with an Italian newspaper.


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"Nature is like a sculptor constantly improving upon her work, but to do so she chisels away at living flesh." H.K. Bloom

"Is God willing to prevent evil but not able? Then he is not omnipotent...
Is he able but not willing? Then he is malevolent...
Is he both able, and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him god." Epicurus c. 300 BCE

"When I brought up the fact that 'No drug is good or bad, they're all just A drug, what someone does with them determines the postive or negative outcome. Look at medicine, those are drugs' Reponse was that 'well medicine solves problems' well so does LSD." -Learningtofly

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Re: Prison or Freedom? [Re: mozhual]
    #11198847 - 10/07/09 06:44 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

That's why when you are knocked out, its called losing consciousness. Your consciousness (if you can even call it that) is the way it is because of the way neurons in your brain are arranged and has nothing what so ever to do with some third party spiritual force. When those neurons are sending out information correctly, you are conscious... and when they aren't you are either unconscious, dead, or have serious brain damage for ever altering you conscious.


Fucking Christ on a Cross can we sticky this?:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Prison or Freedom? [Re: Icelander]
    #11198944 - 10/07/09 07:29 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Please don't, it's hardly an accurate description(and I forgot to add that it's only generally accepted as such in humans), but for the sake of this argument it is sufficient. There are essentially three brains in each human, reptilian, mammalian, and primate. The primate one is the only one that would contain consciousness by all relevant definitions. But it is built on top of the other two brains and thus shares the same neural pathways, so damage to any part of your brain can severely or mildly affect conscious thought.


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"Nature is like a sculptor constantly improving upon her work, but to do so she chisels away at living flesh." H.K. Bloom

"Is God willing to prevent evil but not able? Then he is not omnipotent...
Is he able but not willing? Then he is malevolent...
Is he both able, and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him god." Epicurus c. 300 BCE

"When I brought up the fact that 'No drug is good or bad, they're all just A drug, what someone does with them determines the postive or negative outcome. Look at medicine, those are drugs' Reponse was that 'well medicine solves problems' well so does LSD." -Learningtofly

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