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 is it all about sexual attraction? 
#11186225 - 10/05/09 11:11 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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In the movie the girl loses her child and husband to a terrible accident, she falls completely apart. It ain't pretty. Two guys try and come to her aid and "help her".
She is very beautiful and both are very attracted to her.
What if she was instead very ugly. Do you think these guys would invest their time and energy in trying to help her through all this?
The movie want's us to take this plot seriously. I'm having trouble.
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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: Icelander]
#11186296 - 10/05/09 11:25 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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cost/benefit. Unless the guys are some super breed of male that doesn't care about physical attraction right off the bat, they won't see much, if any, benefit to instantly help these people out.
Unless of course altruism exists, which I don't think it does
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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: Icelander]
#11186307 - 10/05/09 11:27 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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What if she was instead very ugly. Do you think these guys would invest their time and energy in trying to help her through all this?
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If he watched alot of TV and is fanatic daytime television, or influenced by greed; then probably not..
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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: Icelander]
#11186325 - 10/05/09 11:29 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think they would attempt to save the girl no matter what. However they would exhaust a greater effort if needed for the attractive woman. Attractive women get my attention more than ugly ones.
Sex sells for a reason.
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One guy was a cop and one a reporter. Do you think they expend effort on every tragic figure they encounter?
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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: Icelander]
#11186349 - 10/05/09 11:33 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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btw she rejected them both
she saw what they were really after.
i was impressed.
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Quote:
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Sex sells for a reason.
Not according to any psych class I've ever taken.
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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: Icelander]
#11186360 - 10/05/09 11:35 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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I would come to believe the cop would expend more effort, as he feels his "duty" is to protect the community. But when it comes down to purely sexual attraction, they will both exert their maximum effort to save the attractive women. Because they are both men.
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what if they're gay?
oh and i'll elaborate on the sex sells thing.
Ads that are most effective are neutral ones rather than violent or sexual, contrary to one might think. This is because when dealing with neutral ads, the person is really only focusing on the product and thus can remember it better. whereas with sexual ads, the person only remembers the fact that it was sexy, but generally doesn't remember what the ad was for.
in fact, the textbook for a social psych class I took flat out said that neutral ads are far more effective than sexual ones.
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Edited by learningtofly (10/05/09 11:39 AM)
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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: Icelander]
#11186381 - 10/05/09 11:39 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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is what all about sexual attraction?
life?
pretty much yeah i'd say
its all about experience & orgasm is pretty much the peak experience for most
it is possible to not be that bothered about sex though
ive gone through periods of not even looking at girls i usually find attractive as my minds been so focused elsewhere, for some people it would be hell to not find the opposite sex attractive 
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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: Chronic7]
#11186401 - 10/05/09 11:42 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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purty much agree
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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: learningtofly]
#11186424 - 10/05/09 11:44 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
learningtofly said:
what if they're gay?
oh and i'll elaborate on the sex sells thing.
Ads that are most effective are neutral ones rather than violent or sexual, contrary to one might think. This is because when dealing with neutral ads, the person is really only focusing on the product and thus can remember it better.
I'm not sure if this is true or not. I mean i believe you, but from my subjective experience on this planet i would disagree. For instance i know about 25 people who went and saw this movie called "Trasformers." With no intention of even caring about plot or story line. But ONLY because that really hot chick is in it.
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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: Chronic7]
#11186425 - 10/05/09 11:45 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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I once read something.. in a book... sorry, I'm horrable with quotes, most of what i read just goes into my binary decoder then uploads to planet vox. but anyhow..
the point was: think of how much more drive we would have towards another pursuit if we could divert sexual intent/energy/motivation/etc
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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: cyb3rtr0n]
#11186459 - 10/05/09 11:49 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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think of how much more drive we would have towards another pursuit if we could divert sexual intent/energy/motivation/etc
If anything i wish i could be a little more sexually driven
Don't get me wrong, im a horny little devil, but i don't have that drive to go out picking up different girls in bars every weekend like most of my pals do, i just want one nice girl, but there are times i think being promiscuous could be fun, but it would only be fun for a while, like one night!
So i don't see the point...it just aint 'me'
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Quote:
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learningtofly said:
what if they're gay?
oh and i'll elaborate on the sex sells thing.
Ads that are most effective are neutral ones rather than violent or sexual, contrary to one might think. This is because when dealing with neutral ads, the person is really only focusing on the product and thus can remember it better.
I'm not sure if this is true or not. I mean i believe you, but from my subjective experience on this planet i would disagree. For instance i know about 25 people who went and saw this movie called "Trasformers." With no intention of even caring about plot or story line. But ONLY because that really hot chick is in it.
Films are somewhat different 'cuz you get to look at the sexy lady. I'm talking more about like if you see an ad for lets say a pair of jeans, and the ad is a naked girl. More often then not you'll remember the naked girl and not the jeans
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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: Chronic7]
#11186474 - 10/05/09 11:52 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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im a horny little devil,
Preference or addiction/attachment? 
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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: Chronic7]
#11186493 - 10/05/09 11:56 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Chronic777 said:
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cyb3rtr0n said:
think of how much more drive we would have towards another pursuit if we could divert sexual intent/energy/motivation/etc
If anything i wish i could be a little more sexually driven
Don't get me wrong, im a horny little devil, but i don't have that drive to go out picking up different girls in bars every weekend like most of my pals do, i just want one nice girl, but there are times i think being promiscuous could be fun, but it would only be fun for a while, like one night!
So i don't see the point...it just aint 'me'
What about the mental process involved before the action occurs? in relation to time
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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: learningtofly]
#11186499 - 10/05/09 11:57 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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How about a sexy women that is wearing the jeans, and huge tits busting out her shirt?
This message is sent to men
"Damn, i would fuck her so hard."
He would want his girl to wear the particular clothing, it makes her look more attractive.
And this message to women
"I want to strive to have her tits,lips, hips, face ect ect so that men will want to fuck me."
Thus buy the products she is wearing to help meet her internal needs.
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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: Icelander]
#11186506 - 10/05/09 11:58 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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im a horny little devil,
Preference or addiction/attachment?
lol dude you could say this about everything!
food, posting here, exercise, environment...its all preference & not a wild binding addiction
but it doesnt change the fact that preference is still an attachment, on some level
im not saying its not possible to be free while still having preferences, just that its nice to notice that preference is still some sort of attachment that can be further loosened
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Quote:
Cognitive_Shift said:
How about a sexy women that is wearing the jeans, and huge tits busting out her shirt?
This message is sent to men
"Damn, i would fuck her so hard."
He would want his girl to wear the particular clothing, it makes her look more attractive.
And this message to women
"I want to strive to have her tits,lips, hips, face ect ect so that men will want to fuck me."
Thus buy the products she is wearing to help meet her internal needs.
no sex doesn't sell for men or women. you can be as intuitive as you want but pretty much every study will show that you're wrong.
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