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d-limonene cactus extraction-what gives?
    #11186255 - 10/05/09 01:17 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

A friend did two identical d-limonene/vinegar extractions of two batches of the same Peruvian Torch tissue, divided into two 100 gram piles.  First batch yielded 1.2 gm golden, waxy crystals as expected.  Second batch,using  yielded only .6 gms of brown, sticky sludge.  Not sure what the difference was, as everything was identical, but question is, should they two products be combined? Is the sludge likely to be active, if used alone?
Anybody ever get the sludgy product?


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Re: d-limonene cactus extraction-what gives? [Re: grrr31]
    #11186366 - 10/05/09 01:36 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

the sludge dries out if you scrape it, stretch it. it is def active. :yesnod:

i had a similar situation. my first batch of 100 grams yielded a nice sandy orange powder after drying totally.

the second one yielded a darker, more goey substance that dried to waxy chunks.

both were bioassayed and were very active.


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Re: d-limonene cactus extraction-what gives? [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #11186762 - 10/05/09 02:39 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

It's usually not even less potent as sludge.


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Re: d-limonene cactus extraction-what gives? [Re: ReoSpeedwagon153]
    #11187068 - 10/05/09 03:26 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Cool, thanks guys.  Interesting thing, my friend went ahead and did a second vinegar draw off the same limonene, and got about half a gram of pretty damn white crystal. I suppose the first vinegar draw was not very effective, for some reason. Good news about the sludge too. I will advise my friend to put it on a glass plate, and smudge it out for further drying!


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Re: d-limonene cactus extraction-what gives? [Re: grrr31]
    #11192272 - 10/06/09 10:34 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Some folks at the nexus are salting with pure carbonated water, or a mixture of carbonated water and vinegar, to obtain a more solid crystalline product.

It's still getting figured out, so you should experiment a bit.


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Re: d-limonene cactus extraction-what gives? [Re: ReoSpeedwagon153]
    #11192969 - 10/06/09 01:09 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

You mean not using vinegar/acetetic acid(that's the correct acid right?) at all, and just using carbonated water? How does that work? I thought water was pretty neutral, is there something different about carbonated water?


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Re: d-limonene cactus extraction-what gives? [Re: krypto2000]
    #11193062 - 10/06/09 01:27 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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You mean not using vinegar/acetetic acid(that's the correct acid right?) at all, and just using carbonated water? How does that work? I thought water was pretty neutral, is there something different about carbonated water?




Yeah it has carbonate in it (which is an acid).


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Re: d-limonene cactus extraction-what gives? [Re: floatingwater]
    #11193102 - 10/06/09 01:35 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Did not know that, but my chemistry knowledge more or less covers only the required knowledge to do a hcl extraction, so that doesn't surprise me.


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Re: d-limonene cactus extraction-what gives? [Re: krypto2000]
    #11193480 - 10/06/09 02:38 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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You mean not using vinegar/acetetic acid(that's the correct acid right?) at all, and just using carbonated water? How does that work? I thought water was pretty neutral, is there something different about carbonated water?



the carbonic acid (soda water)  pulls dont seem to work unless the solvent has been pulled with acetic acid/vinegar first. interesting experiments they have going on at the nexus. very groundbreaking. :cactuarrun:


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Re: d-limonene cactus extraction-what gives? [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #11199171 - 10/07/09 10:42 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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You mean not using vinegar/acetetic acid(that's the correct acid right?) at all, and just using carbonated water? How does that work? I thought water was pretty neutral, is there something different about carbonated water?



the carbonic acid (soda water)  pulls dont seem to work unless the solvent has been pulled with acetic acid/vinegar first.





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Re: d-limonene cactus extraction-what gives? [Re: ReoSpeedwagon153]
    #11199297 - 10/07/09 11:06 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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krypto2000 said:
You mean not using vinegar/acetetic acid(that's the correct acid right?) at all, and just using carbonated water? How does that work? I thought water was pretty neutral, is there something different about carbonated water?



the carbonic acid (soda water)  pulls dont seem to work unless the solvent has been pulled with acetic acid/vinegar first.





- not true for everybody!




for the majority of people i have spoken to this seems to be a common experience. i was doing fine with vinegar anyways so i switched back to that.


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Re: d-limonene cactus extraction-what gives? [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #11935807 - 01/31/10 03:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

will this d-limonene work for mesc extraction? http://www.eco-house.com/citrus_thinner115.html

"extra mild", and the fact that it doesnt say "100% pure d-limonene" makes me wonder..


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Re: d-limonene cactus extraction-what gives? [Re: torsodeath]
    #11935918 - 01/31/10 03:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

http://www.greenterpene.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=001005527&Click=20440&gclid=CNudqpvAz58CFUGF7Qod3DMWyw

just found that with a google of d-limonene food grade...i've asked about and 95% seems to be just fine with everyone i''ve asked.

if i am wrong someone please correct me before i order some :blush:


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Re: d-limonene cactus extraction-what gives? [Re: laotzo]
    #11936435 - 01/31/10 05:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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http://www.greenterpene.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=001005527&Click=20440&gclid=CNudqpvAz58CFUGF7Qod3DMWyw

just found that with a google of d-limonene food grade...i've asked about and 95% seems to be just fine with everyone i''ve asked.

if i am wrong someone please correct me before i order some :blush:






that's exactly what i use
oh and this stuff smells soo good,your gonna love the way your house smells.
excellent choice.:heart:


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Re: d-limonene cactus extraction-what gives? [Re: ant61]
    #11938081 - 01/31/10 10:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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http://www.greenterpene.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=001005527&Click=20440&gclid=CNudqpvAz58CFUGF7Qod3DMWyw

just found that with a google of d-limonene food grade...i've asked about and 95% seems to be just fine with everyone i''ve asked.

if i am wrong someone please correct me before i order some :blush:






that's exactly what i use
oh and this stuff smells soo good,your gonna love the way your house smells.
excellent choice.:heart:




my girl will use a capful to mop the floor. makes the house smell like sweet clementines. :yesnod:


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Re: d-limonene cactus extraction-what gives? [Re: laotzo]
    #11940951 - 02/01/10 11:37 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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laotzo said:
http://www.greenterpene.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=001005527&Click=20440&gclid=CNudqpvAz58CFUGF7Qod3DMWyw

just found that with a google of d-limonene food grade...i've asked about and 95% seems to be just fine with everyone i''ve asked.

if i am wrong someone please correct me before i order some :blush:




Yup, that's where I order from and I just get the "food grad" as well instead of springing for the "high purity", which is a lot more expensive. Works great.


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