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is it all about sexual attraction?
    #11186225 - 10/05/09 11:11 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

In the movie the girl loses her child and husband to a terrible accident, she falls completely apart. It ain't pretty. Two guys try and come to her aid and "help her".

She is very beautiful and both are very attracted to her.

What if she was instead very ugly. Do you think these guys would invest their time and energy in trying to help her through all this?

The movie want's us to take this plot seriously. I'm having trouble.


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: Icelander]
    #11186296 - 10/05/09 11:25 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

cost/benefit. Unless the guys are some super breed of male that doesn't care about physical attraction right off the bat, they won't see much, if any, benefit to instantly help these people out.

Unless of course altruism exists, which I don't think it does


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: Icelander]
    #11186307 - 10/05/09 11:27 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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What if she was instead very ugly. Do you think these guys would invest their time and energy in trying to help her through all this?
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If he watched alot of TV and is fanatic daytime television, or influenced by greed; then probably not..


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: Icelander]
    #11186325 - 10/05/09 11:29 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I think they would attempt to save the girl no matter what.  However they would exhaust a greater effort if needed for the attractive woman.  Attractive women get my attention more than ugly ones.

Sex sells for a reason.


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #11186341 - 10/05/09 11:32 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

One guy was a cop and one a reporter. Do you think they expend effort on every tragic figure they encounter?


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: Icelander]
    #11186349 - 10/05/09 11:33 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

btw she rejected them both

she saw what they were really after.

i was impressed.


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #11186350 - 10/05/09 11:33 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Sex sells for a reason.




Not according to any psych class I've ever taken.


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: Icelander]
    #11186360 - 10/05/09 11:35 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I would come to believe the cop would expend more effort, as he feels his "duty" is to protect the community.  But when it comes down to purely sexual attraction, they will both exert their maximum effort to save the attractive women.  Because they are both men.


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #11186371 - 10/05/09 11:37 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

what if they're gay?

oh and i'll elaborate on the sex sells thing.

Ads that are most effective are neutral ones rather than violent or sexual, contrary to one might think. This is because when dealing with neutral ads, the person is really only focusing on the product and thus can remember it better. whereas with sexual ads, the person only remembers the fact that it was sexy, but generally doesn't remember what the ad was for.

in fact, the textbook for a social psych class I took flat out said that neutral ads are far more effective than sexual ones.


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: Icelander]
    #11186381 - 10/05/09 11:39 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

is what all about sexual attraction?

life?

pretty much yeah i'd say
its all about experience & orgasm is pretty much the peak experience for most



it is possible to not be that bothered about sex though

ive gone through periods of not even looking at girls i usually find attractive as my minds been so focused elsewhere, for some people it would be hell to not find the opposite sex attractive :shrug:

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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: Chronic7]
    #11186401 - 10/05/09 11:42 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

purty much agree


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: learningtofly]
    #11186424 - 10/05/09 11:44 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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what if they're gay?

oh and i'll elaborate on the sex sells thing.

Ads that are most effective are neutral ones rather than violent or sexual, contrary to one might think. This is because when dealing with neutral ads, the person is really only focusing on the product and thus can remember it better.



I'm not sure if this is true or not.  I mean i believe you, but from my subjective experience on this planet i would disagree.  For instance i know about 25 people who went and saw this movie called "Trasformers."  With no intention of even caring about plot or story line.  But ONLY because that really hot chick is in it.


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: Chronic7]
    #11186425 - 10/05/09 11:45 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I once read something.. in a book... sorry, I'm horrable with quotes, most of what i read just goes into my binary decoder then uploads to planet vox.  but anyhow..

the point was:  think of how much more drive we would have towards another pursuit if we could divert sexual intent/energy/motivation/etc


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: cyb3rtr0n]
    #11186459 - 10/05/09 11:49 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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think of how much more drive we would have towards another pursuit if we could divert sexual intent/energy/motivation/etc





If anything i wish i could be a little more sexually driven

Don't get me wrong, im a horny little devil, but i don't have that drive to go out picking up different girls in bars every weekend like most of my pals do, i just want one nice girl, but there are times i think being promiscuous could be fun, but it would only be fun for a while, like one night!

So i don't see the point...it just aint 'me' :shrug:

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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #11186469 - 10/05/09 11:51 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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what if they're gay?

oh and i'll elaborate on the sex sells thing.

Ads that are most effective are neutral ones rather than violent or sexual, contrary to one might think. This is because when dealing with neutral ads, the person is really only focusing on the product and thus can remember it better.



I'm not sure if this is true or not.  I mean i believe you, but from my subjective experience on this planet i would disagree.  For instance i know about 25 people who went and saw this movie called "Trasformers."  With no intention of even caring about plot or story line.  But ONLY because that really hot chick is in it.



Films are somewhat different 'cuz you get to look at the sexy lady. I'm talking more about like if you see an ad for lets say a pair of jeans, and the ad is a naked girl. More often then not you'll remember the naked girl and not the jeans


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: Chronic7]
    #11186474 - 10/05/09 11:52 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

im a horny little devil,:satansmoking:

Preference or addiction/attachment? :lol:


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: Chronic7]
    #11186493 - 10/05/09 11:56 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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think of how much more drive we would have towards another pursuit if we could divert sexual intent/energy/motivation/etc





If anything i wish i could be a little more sexually driven

Don't get me wrong, im a horny little devil, but i don't have that drive to go out picking up different girls in bars every weekend like most of my pals do, i just want one nice girl, but there are times i think being promiscuous could be fun, but it would only be fun for a while, like one night!

So i don't see the point...it just aint 'me' :shrug:

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What about the mental process involved before the action occurs?  in relation to time


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: learningtofly]
    #11186499 - 10/05/09 11:57 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

How about a sexy women that is wearing the jeans, and huge tits busting out her shirt?

This message is sent to men

"Damn, i would fuck her so hard."

He would want his girl to wear the particular clothing, it makes her look more attractive. 

And this message to women

"I want to strive to have her tits,lips, hips, face ect ect so that men will want to fuck me."

Thus buy the products she is wearing to help meet her internal needs.


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: Icelander]
    #11186506 - 10/05/09 11:58 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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im a horny little devil,:satansmoking:

Preference or addiction/attachment? :lol:




lol dude you could say this about everything!
food, posting here, exercise, environment...its all preference & not a wild binding addiction

but it doesnt change the fact that preference is still an attachment, on some level

im not saying its not possible to be free while still having preferences, just that its nice to notice that preference is still some sort of attachment that can be further loosened

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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #11186520 - 10/05/09 12:00 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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How about a sexy women that is wearing the jeans, and huge tits busting out her shirt?

This message is sent to men

"Damn, i would fuck her so hard."

He would want his girl to wear the particular clothing, it makes her look more attractive. 

And this message to women

"I want to strive to have her tits,lips, hips, face ect ect so that men will want to fuck me."

Thus buy the products she is wearing to help meet her internal needs.




no sex doesn't sell for men or women. you can be as intuitive as you want but pretty much every study will show that you're wrong.


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: cyb3rtr0n]
    #11186527 - 10/05/09 12:01 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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What about the mental process involved before the action occurs?  in relation to time





id say the mental process is already an action occuring

perhaps clarify what your getting at here :shrug:

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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: learningtofly]
    #11186530 - 10/05/09 12:02 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

My professors would be all :what:


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: learningtofly]
    #11186536 - 10/05/09 12:02 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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no sex doesn't sell for men or women. you can be as intuitive as you want but pretty much every study will show that you're wrong.




are you serious, sex doesn't sell?
what planet do you live on!?

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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: learningtofly]
    #11186548 - 10/05/09 12:05 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

is sex only physical?


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: Chronic7]
    #11186567 - 10/05/09 12:07 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

but it doesnt change the fact that preference is still an attachment, on some level


OK I'm going to call your bluff. Explain how a preference is an attachment?


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: cyb3rtr0n]
    #11186576 - 10/05/09 12:08 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Sex is sex.  It is what ever you make it.  I can go get hammered at a bar, she wakes up early and has to go to work.  I look through my cell phone and delete her number.  And it is never mentioned or heard of again.

Or you can meet this girl, because you have something in common, she is pretty, and just a really cool chick all around.  You hang out with her for a while, and one thing leads to another.  You guys fuck, and then there is this whole emotional aspect to go along with sex.


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: Chronic7]
    #11186582 - 10/05/09 12:10 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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no sex doesn't sell for men or women. you can be as intuitive as you want but pretty much every study will show that you're wrong.




are you serious, sex doesn't sell?
what planet do you live on!?

:peace:




I live on earth and no, sex doesn't sell. How hard is this to understand? You may remember the ad but it's more than likely you won't remember the product (which is the whole point)


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: learningtofly]
    #11186597 - 10/05/09 12:11 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Then why are they including sex in so much advertising. They must do a few studies here and there.

IMO sex sells big time and in so many subtle and not so subtle ways.


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: learningtofly]
    #11186598 - 10/05/09 12:12 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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You may remember the ad but it's more than likely you won't remember the product (which is the whole point)



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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: Icelander]
    #11186617 - 10/05/09 12:14 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

because they are retarded, look here is one of many, many, many studies that all point to the same conclusion: sex doesn't sell.

http://sitemaker.umich.edu/brad.bushman/files/B05.pdf

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ABSTRACT—Adults (N 5 336) 18 to 54 years old watched a
television program containing violence, sex, both violence
and sex, or no violence and sex. Programs were shown in
a comfortable room containing padded chairs and tasty
snacks. Each program contained the same 12 ads. Em-
bedding an ad in a program containing violence or sex
reduced (a) viewers’ likelihood of remembering the ad-
vertised brand, (b) their interest in buying that brand, and
(c) their likelihood of selecting a coupon for that brand.
These effects occurred for males and females of all ages,
regardless of whether they liked programs containing vi-
olence and sex. These results show that violence and sex in
television programs do not sell products in advertisements.

it is commonly assumed that televised violence and sex sell
products. Although TV programs with violence and sex do at-
tract younger viewers, overall they attract fewer viewers than
programs without violence and sex (Hamilton, 1998; Parents
Television Council, 2003). The smaller audience size reduces
the potential impact of an advertisement. This impact would be
further reduced if TV viewers cannot remember the product
being advertised. Research has already shown that televised
violence and sex impair memory for advertised products. A
meta-analysis of 16 studies involving 2,474 participants found
that memory for advertised brands was 27% lower if ads were
embedded in a violent program than if the same ads were em
bedded in a nonviolent program (Bushman, 2003; see also
Bushman & Phillips, 2001). Televised sex also may impair
memory for advertised brands (Bushman & Bonacci, 2002).




If you just google Sex Does Not Sell/ Sex Doesn't Sell / Marketing Psychology Sex Doesn't Sell / etc you'll see a ton of evidence supporting this.


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #11186621 - 10/05/09 12:16 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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learningtofly said:
You may remember the ad but it's more than likely you won't remember the product (which is the whole point)



:what:




Ex. If there's an ad with a girl straddling a horse and the ad is for jeans. You'll remember that a girl was straddling a horse and you will be attracted to it but you won't remember that the ad was trying to sell you jeans so the ad is ineffective.


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #11186624 - 10/05/09 12:17 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Sex is sex.  It is what ever you make it.  I can go get hammered at a bar, she wakes up early and has to go to work.  I look through my cell phone and delete her number.  And it is never mentioned or heard of again.

Or you can meet this girl, because you have something in common, she is pretty, and just a really cool chick all around.  You hang out with her for a while, and one thing leads to another.  You guys fuck, and then there is this whole emotional aspect to go along with sex.




ok.. but the point at which these two paths separate.  In our thinking/psyche/self; what triggers this preference, or is it determined?


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: Icelander]
    #11186625 - 10/05/09 12:17 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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but it doesnt change the fact that preference is still an attachment, on some level


OK I'm going to call your bluff. Explain how a preference is an attachment?





okay, ill give you an example im going through right now...

its cold where i am right now, im stuck in the cold without the possibility of being warmer, i could prefer to be warmer & that struggle against the cold would be an attachment that would cause me to suffer the cold

whereas if i have no preference & just accept the cold (as i am) there is no attachent, no struggle & no suffering the cold

if i was sitting here prefering to be warmer id be in a suffering state, but since its not that much of a big deal i can leave aside the preference of being warmer & be fine with it, other people who work here have a preference to be warmer & suffer the cold

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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: learningtofly]
    #11186629 - 10/05/09 12:18 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

:lol:

if she was ugly nobody would want to see here for more than an hour on the screen not to mention 2 suitors going after her...

i mean come on, don't we have icecream and womens entertainment channels for a reason?

In the real world the movie would be as such... ugly and fatty bitch has a tragedy... everyone just expects her to lock her self up in her apt and get even more fat watching daytime tv and petting cats.


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: learningtofly]
    #11186636 - 10/05/09 12:18 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

well even if sex just gets to to take that first look isn't that selling?


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: Icelander]
    #11186643 - 10/05/09 12:20 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

No, its a waste of money. what good is a mcdonalds ad if i can't remember that the ad is for mcdonalds?

What good is an ad if I don't buy anything, let alone can't even remember what the ad was trying to sell me?


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: learningtofly]
    #11186657 - 10/05/09 12:23 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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If you just google Sex Does Not Sell/ Sex Doesn't Sell / Marketing Psychology Sex Doesn't Sell / etc you'll see a ton of evidence supporting this.



Ask your psyche professor they will tell you different.  I took some classes specializing in this shit.  One class was called "Modern psychology of gender issues."


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: learningtofly]
    #11186660 - 10/05/09 12:23 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Dude, come on... sexiness can sell, it can attract the attention to said ad and then maybe just maybe you will remember what the ad was about. Sex sells because it can command the attention, right? And I guess it can depend on the product a lot...


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: learningtofly]
    #11186662 - 10/05/09 12:23 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Ok I'm ready to be convinced but there must be some explaination of using sex other then they are just lame and stoopid.


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: Icelander]
    #11186671 - 10/05/09 12:25 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

what is the goal of sex?


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: cyb3rtr0n]
    #11186678 - 10/05/09 12:26 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Our goal? The male? orgasm?


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: cyb3rtr0n]
    #11186682 - 10/05/09 12:27 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Pleasure.
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what is the goal of sex?



Depends what you make of it, ranging on a fuck ton of variables.


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: Icelander]
    #11186690 - 10/05/09 12:28 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

do we feel any of our perceived anxieties during orgasm?


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: cyb3rtr0n]
    #11186698 - 10/05/09 12:30 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

"Did I last long enough?"


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: learningtofly]
    #11186708 - 10/05/09 12:31 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

heh


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: learningtofly]
    #11186710 - 10/05/09 12:31 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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"Did I last long enough?"




wouldn't that be depression after the orgasm?


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: cyb3rtr0n]
    #11186726 - 10/05/09 12:34 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

i dont know, i don't remember my exact thoughts of saturday night. I can try again... for science of course?


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: cyb3rtr0n]
    #11186727 - 10/05/09 12:34 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

meh you still got ur nut off so dont be sad!


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: cyb3rtr0n]
    #11186728 - 10/05/09 12:34 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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do we feel any of our perceived anxieties during orgasm?




don't know as I suspect many anxieties are below conscious awareness.


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: Icelander]
    #11186746 - 10/05/09 12:36 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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don't know as I suspect many anxieties are below conscious awareness.



This.


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: Chronic7]
    #11186749 - 10/05/09 12:36 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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but it doesnt change the fact that preference is still an attachment, on some level


OK I'm going to call your bluff. Explain how a preference is an attachment?





okay, ill give you an example im going through right now...

its cold where i am right now, im stuck in the cold without the possibility of being warmer, i could prefer to be warmer & that struggle against the cold would be an attachment that would cause me to suffer the cold

whereas if i have no preference & just accept the cold (as i am) there is no attachent, no struggle & no suffering the cold

if i was sitting here prefering to be warmer id be in a suffering state, but since its not that much of a big deal i can leave aside the preference of being warmer & be fine with it, other people who work here have a preference to be warmer & suffer the cold

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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: Chronic7]
    #11186768 - 10/05/09 12:39 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

a preference has no attachment. If you prefer to be warm and youre cold you completely accept that you are cold and cannot be warm. You don't complain or fret you surrender and accept. An attachment would be to complain and fret and whine or be upset because reality did not conform to your wishes. Also called, being neurotic.


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: Icelander]
    #11186781 - 10/05/09 12:42 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I think 100% of women are neurotic to be honest...  On a really deep level, or a very shallow one.  All of them.


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #11186801 - 10/05/09 12:44 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I'll inform Veritas.


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: Icelander]
    #11186871 - 10/05/09 12:54 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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a preference has no attachment. If you prefer to be warm and youre cold you completely accept that you are cold and cannot be warm. You don't complain or fret you surrender and accept. An attachment would be to complain and fret and whine or be upset because reality did not conform to your wishes. Also called, being neurotic.





at the end of the day it is what you make of it
to you preference has no attachment, for me it does
they are both just concepts anyway so its what you attribute to them


as far as i see, prefering one thing over another
is an attachment to one thing, over the other
simple as that

a very subtle attachment it may be, but an attachment none the less

addiction
attachment
preference

its all the same thing, just less & less attached

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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #11186896 - 10/05/09 12:57 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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I think 100% of women are neurotic to be honest...  On a really deep level, or a very shallow one.  All of them.




The same goes for men


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: Chronic7]
    #11187627 - 10/05/09 03:13 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Finally something to agree with you on.


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: learningtofly]
    #11187938 - 10/05/09 03:58 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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No, its a waste of money. what good is a mcdonalds ad if i can't remember that the ad is for mcdonalds?

What good is an ad if I don't buy anything, let alone can't even remember what the ad was trying to sell me?




I may not remember what product that scantily dressed woman was supposed to be selling but when that pimply-faced cashier squeeks out "Would you like Coke or Pepsi?" and I respond firmly "Pepsi." without even a moments thought or recollection, I have to ask myself how long ago that decision was made and what were the deciding factors.
Was it Britney Spears' new single, a refreshing ice-cold beverage, and cleavage?

Marketing and advertising have an effect deeper than simple conscious recollection, especially when you mix in our oh-so-wonderful biological imperative. :cool:

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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: Tropism]
    #11187999 - 10/05/09 04:09 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Subliminal advertising doesn't work, do we need to go over that as well?

I've taken market research as well as psychology classes, and they pretty much have the same consensus.


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: learningtofly]
    #11188030 - 10/05/09 04:14 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I've taken market research as well as psychology classes, and they pretty much have the same consensus.

If other humans told ya, they must be right, so I'll take your word for it. :thumbup:

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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: learningtofly]
    #11188059 - 10/05/09 04:18 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

if sex & subliminal advertising doesnt work, why do they still use it so much?

if the revenue was not coming in they would not keep doing it

i despise talking about anything but Nirvana
but stupid posts like this make me do otherwise

you think school teaches you the truth? please...

(if i could find the icon for slapping you with a wet fish id use it now)


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Re: is it all about sexual attraction? [Re: Chronic7]
    #11188116 - 10/05/09 04:26 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Keep asking that question and I'll say again because execs are retarded.

There are no studies to back up the idea that subliminal advertising works and that sex sells. Most, if not every study will confirm what I've said.

The whole concept of subliminal advertising was based on a fraudulent study. There have been no studies confirming the success of it.

As for sex not selling, i've already linked you to one of many studies confirming what I've said but apparently your personal beliefs trump that.

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Experts have long since debunked the subliminal hoaxes, and many people with more than a passing knowledge of advertising know not to take this nonsense seriously, but I can't help but be fascinated with the subliminal myth, particularly as a critique of advertising. Of all the people who have criticized advertising over the years, the men who popularized subliminal advertising seem to have gotten the most mileage. Books on the topic (Key's as well as Vance Packard's Hidden Persuaders) were best-sellers, and their ideas circulated far more widely than other social critiques. In the late 1950s and again in the 1970s, the outcry over subliminals even inspired legislators to draft laws banning the practice.




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