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Burned Bottom of Jars in PC
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First shot at this.. of course I did something wrong :smile:
After experiencing this problem I looked up a solution and now know I should put more water in (there was only a few drops left when I opened the PC) and put a towel on the bottom (my 6qt PC didn't come with a rack).

Anywho, did the PC for 60 minutes.. the bottoms of the jars are pretty dark. You guys think they'll be alright?


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Re: Burned Bottom of Jars in PC [Re: phx1]
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Idk, never had it happen to me.

For future sessions, put a layer of jar lids on the bottom to elevate and that should allow you to have enough water and keep the jars above the water. You can place the dishrag on top of the jar lids after that if you want, but it's not necessary.


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Re: Burned Bottom of Jars in PC [Re: phx1]
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sorry, not trying to be an asshole
but this pic just seemed to fit

i would start over bro
those jars are toast

you are going to want to fill your PC
so the water comes about 1/2way up the sides of the jars

maybe even a tad bit less
then PC for 60 min just like you did before

dont let this get you down
shit happens, good luck next time:thumbup:

  -noobie-


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Best Thread Ever
CapZilla said:
not sure what GE and FAE are but i should probably get some.
Citric said:
Your signature is wrong on colonization temps!
GOOD JUDGMENT COMES FROM EXPERIENCE
EXPERIENCE COMES FROM BAD JUDGMENT
ROOM TEMP 70-75 IS BEST FOR COLONIZATION
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Re: Burned Bottom of Jars in PC [Re: noobieshroomie]
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Haha, great use of the avatar.

Is it not better to keep the jars out of the water completely? I guess it doesn't really matter.

If your PC is working correctly, you should not need that much water.


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Re: Burned Bottom of Jars in PC [Re: noobieshroomie]
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I usually use about an inch of water in my PC, sometimes almost 2", but that's total no matter what size jar.  Just elevate the jar off the bottom of the PC and you'll be golden.  I'd retry if I were you, better to have it right than to try to risk it.  If you risk it, it might not work and you just lost your syringe.  D:

Good luck, you'll definitely get it right next time!


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Re: Burned Bottom of Jars in PC [Re: Maverick]
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Thanks for the replies.
I'll definitely give it another try.
This batch has already been inoculated so I guess I have no reason to at least see what comes of them.

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Re: Burned Bottom of Jars in PC [Re: phx1]
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I'm trying again.. I put some jar lids on the bottom of the pressure cooker but I don't see how that's going to work. Standing the jar on the jar lids makes the jar seem to unstable and shaky, they'll surely topple over and fall on their sides while either moving it to the PC or in the PC itself.

Advice?

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Re: Burned Bottom of Jars in PC [Re: phx1]
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put a few layers of foil on top of the lids
that way it will fill in some of the gaps
and make your jars more stable

  -noobie-


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Best Thread Ever
CapZilla said:
not sure what GE and FAE are but i should probably get some.
Citric said:
Your signature is wrong on colonization temps!
GOOD JUDGMENT COMES FROM EXPERIENCE
EXPERIENCE COMES FROM BAD JUDGMENT
ROOM TEMP 70-75 IS BEST FOR COLONIZATION
Thank you mycochef

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Re: Burned Bottom of Jars in PC [Re: noobieshroomie]
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noobieshroomie said:
put a few layers of foil on top of the lids
that way it will fill in some of the gaps
and make your jars more stable

  -noobie-


yep yep... u can actually put the jar "thru" the lid with the foil over it.  not pushing it down of coarse but just sit it directly over the lid and it holds it perfectly.

u got it this time bro


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Re: Burned Bottom of Jars in PC [Re: noobieshroomie]
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Ok, the jar lids themselves are 1/2 inch tall, so i'll try and make the water another 1/2 inch above the aluminum foil

thanks for the help

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Re: Burned Bottom of Jars in PC [Re: phx1]
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maybe im wrong but are you saying you are putting the water over the top of the jars?


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Re: Burned Bottom of Jars in PC [Re: feelfunny]
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No hes talking about putting the water 1/2 inch above the lids that he was advised to put at the bottom of his pc.

I personally try to keep my jars out of the water...


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Re: Burned Bottom of Jars in PC [Re: feelfunny]
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feelfunny said:
maybe im wrong but are you saying you are putting the water over the top of the jars?


I have the jar lids at the very bottom (which are 1/2in. tall), then stacked 3 sheets of aluminum foil over the jar lids.. it was recommended that one should have 1 inch of water at the top, so i was going to try and roughly measure 1/2in. above the aluminum foil to make 1 inch.

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Re: Burned Bottom of Jars in PC [Re: phx1]
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oh thats sounds more like it then


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Re: Burned Bottom of Jars in PC [Re: feelfunny]
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They looked much better this time!
And they are now in an open plastic container in a garbage bag above the fridge. Hoping for the best now.

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Re: Burned Bottom of Jars in PC [Re: phx1]
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good luck


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Re: Burned Bottom of Jars in PC [Re: feelfunny]
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Will the garbage bag restrict gas exchange? I'm questioning whether or not I should keep them in the bag or take them out.

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Re: Burned Bottom of Jars in PC [Re: phx1]
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not that big of deal but i leave mine out of anything


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Re: Burned Bottom of Jars in PC [Re: feelfunny]
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I shattered 2 jars letting the water run out in my pot... one even adhered to the bottom of the pot....

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Re: Burned Bottom of Jars in PC [Re: Chasawah]
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4-days later at a steady 80 degrees and still no mycelial growth.. I don't know what I could have done wrong this time. The substrate looked so much better this time. And there was a tumbleweed of spores inhabiting the syringe, so when I shook it they dispersed pretty evenly.

Maybe I just suck at life.
Or maybe I'm just being impatient.

I'll let you know which soon.

Edited by phx1 (10/10/09 01:16 PM)

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Re: Burned Bottom of Jars in PC [Re: phx1]
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dude once i got really fucking drunk and passed out, i woke up to my apartment smelling like fuck, yeah i had ran out of water fucking jars were screwed...


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Re: Burned Bottom of Jars in PC [Re: cloudsaregathering]
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Check my jars tonight.. first sign of mycelium growth!
Only on one jar though... it's about a dime sized white spot at the top (barely touching the top layer of vermiculite).

Hopefully the other 4 will start to show some growth soon!

P.S. I appreciate the advice of not having to buy an incubator...
the closet right above my fridge gives off a perfect amount of heat in there (I stuck a thermometer in there -- it's always 80 - 82 degrees).

Edited by phx1 (10/10/09 09:50 PM)

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Re: Burned Bottom of Jars in PC [Re: phx1]
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3 out of the 6 jars formed some growth.
One is ahead of the game.. it's about 85% covered after 16 days..
The other two late bloomers are both at about 50%.

Now I need to start worrying about making a FC.  I'm considering doing a shotgun terrarium.  If I did my research correctly all I need to do is wait one week after 100% colonization... buy a plastic container, put holes 3-inches apart on all six sides.. layer the bottom with damp perlite with a layer of dry perlite on top and then just fan and spray mist a few times each day at about 76 degrees.

I'm confused about the light though.. is light required? What would be the cheapest way to get this done? And would it be okay only having one cake (since the one is about a week ahead of the others) in the FC?

Also, you know that first batch that I burned? I left it in my closet and one jar is experiencing some (slow) growth. It's completely black at the bottom.. is this even worth experimenting with? (see pic).


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Re: Burned Bottom of Jars in PC [Re: phx1]
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Second time I roasted jars, had to buy more.

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Re: Burned Bottom of Jars in PC [Re: noobieshroomie]
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noobieshroomie said:


sorry, not trying to be an asshole
but this pic just seemed to fit

i would start over bro
those jars are toast

you are going to want to fill your PC
so the water comes about 1/2way up the sides of the jars

maybe even a tad bit less
then PC for 60 min just like you did before

dont let this get you down
shit happens, good luck next time:thumbup:

  -noobie-



yea your an ass    lol  that picture does fit just right

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Re: Burned Bottom of Jars in PC [Re: shangrila]
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Ok, did some searching about lights..
I don't want to buy another light fixture so flouresecents are out. I'm going to do the fruiting in my closet which has a pull-down light. I figure I'll just find a 6500k CFL at home depot or lowes or something and have that on for 12/12.

also.. i don't have an electric screw driver to put holes in the plastic container.. what's the next best thing for putting holes in the container?

and how large of a plastic container should I get? I'll have no more than 10 cakes in there at one time

Edited by phx1 (10/21/09 08:16 PM)

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