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a new find something really knew to me
    #11183954 - 10/05/09 12:30 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

this is a psilocybe that present some of the habitad i have only seem in yungensis , they grow out of a log  have acute niple .very sharp. and  in microscopic  features they do not match zapotecorum . they are something new or a new register of a knew specie to the area.
alan have picture of the mushrooms and microscopic features.
here are mine






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cuando una rafaga del pensamiento nos pasa  al lado se puede sentir  que valio  la pena  haber vivido, y cuando ese pensamiento se  convierte en sueño no paramos de soñar hasta realizarlo


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Re: a new find somthing really knew to me [Re: cactu]
    #11184138 - 10/05/09 01:03 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Beauties!


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Re: a new find somthing really knew to me [Re: cactu]
    #11184216 - 10/05/09 01:24 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

psilocybe hoogshagenii?
nice cluster


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Re: a new find somthing really knew to me [Re: cactu]
    #11184275 - 10/05/09 01:43 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Nice mushrooms.  Good job.  :thumbup:


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Re: a new find somthing really knew to me [Re: cactu]
    #11184279 - 10/05/09 01:43 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

That is a very interesting find cactu!

The macroscopic form is very similar to Psilocybe hoogshagenii var hoogshagenii or P. subhoogshagenii  but those species are only known from clay soils, I think the species P. yungensis that cactu mentioned is closer, it would be interesting to see Alan's microscopy of this find!
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Re: a new find somthing really knew to me [Re: inski]
    #11185459 - 10/05/09 10:01 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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wowitch17 said:
psilocybe hoogshagenii?
nice cluster



it was my first impresion but as inski point out, they dont grow straig from log, only yungensis and subyungensis have the habitad of grow from logs in subtropical areas ,they dont look like caerulipides either. my idea something knew . alan d a patience microscopy and  will come with his ideas,
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Nice mushrooms.  Good job.  :thumbup:



gracias  iam very excited about this find.

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That is a very interesting find cactu!

The macroscopic form is very similar to Psilocybe hoogshagenii var hoogshagenii or P. subhoogshagenii  but those species are only known from clay soils, I think the species P. yungensis that cactu mentioned is closer, it would be interesting to see Alan's microscopy of this find!
inski..



very intersting indeep  the area have many special vegetation, and some  are quite unique in mexico , wichmake to believe they may have a unique caracter too.
i will be visiting the area but is my idea this is one of the find you dont findso easy , hope iam wrong..

mas fotos





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Re: a new find somthing really knew to me [Re: cactu]
    #11185681 - 10/05/09 11:05 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

i hope you make some prints :smirk:


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Re: a new find somthing really knew to me [Re: cactu]
    #11185749 - 10/05/09 11:24 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Neat looking psilocybe's:thumbup:


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Re: a new find somthing really knew to me [Re: shroomgatherer]
    #11202508 - 10/07/09 08:25 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

this cap was parasite  by Stemonitis




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Re: a new find something really knew to me [Re: cactu]
    #11202548 - 10/07/09 08:31 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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i hope you make some prints :smirk:




Yes I have several.  One went in the mailbox to Workman a few hours ago.




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Re: a new find something really knew to me [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #11232805 - 10/12/09 02:12 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

wonderful! can hardly wait to work with these. thanks again my friends! much love and respect.

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Re: a new find something really knew to me [Re: the_chosen_one]
    #11233457 - 10/12/09 04:12 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

:cool:soon this specie will be available to many people  in  YEAR MAYBE


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Re: a new find something really knew to me [Re: cactu]
    #11233474 - 10/12/09 04:14 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

:bow2: :bow: :bow2:


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Re: a new find somthing really knew to me [Re: inski]
    #11233612 - 10/12/09 04:38 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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psilocybe hoogshagenii?




That is an excellent guess however this species has forked cheilocystidia, which is supposed to be lacking in P. hoogshantii.

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I think the species P. yungensis that cactu mentioned is closer, it would be interesting to see Alan's microscopy of this find!




I did some microscopy of this using electricity from cactu's truck in the rain in a place with no electricity,  there are many pictures but they are still on the sd card in the little canon camera I use for the microscope.

There was some reason that its not P. yungensis but I don't remember what it is.  According to Guzman's monograph its an undescribed species, but maybe something has been published more recently that matches well.

Its clearly in Cordisporae.  Seems to match P. herrerae pretty well microscopically, except that the caps are quite a bit larger.

On agar it grows extremely slowly and I am not convinced that what I have growing is Psilocybe mycelium at all.  Its not a good sign that it makes the agar around it brown.  I have several spore prints but they are all very light.  Should be enough though.  I will try from gill fragments and see if I get anything different.

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:cool:soon this specie will be available to many people  in  YEAR MAYBE




I have about ten prints in little sterile bags, only sent out 2 so far. 

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wonderful! can hardly wait to work with these. thanks again my friends! much love and respect.




Whoa good to see you here, your print is in the mail, I really hope your research is successful. 

Since this was growing on a log I wonder if dowel spawn is a good idea.


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Re: a new find somthing really knew to me [Re: wowitch17]
    #11233999 - 10/12/09 05:39 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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psilocybe hoogshagenii?
nice cluster




P. hoogshagenii supposedly has an undulating margin. Did not see that in these pics. Also the margin will sometimes bruise blue to blue black.

"A variety of this mushroom, P. Hoogshagenii var. convexa is only slightly umbonate, has a convex cap, and is conspecific with P. semperviva". Supposedly more common in the state of Puebla, Mexico also, Oaxaco and Hidalgo - June to August


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Re: a new find somthing really knew to me [Re: theBrewMeister]
    #11234073 - 10/12/09 05:55 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Very interesting find!:bow:


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Re: a new find somthing really knew to me [Re: cactu]
    #11234104 - 10/12/09 06:00 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Interesting...They have a unique character like dark little wizard's hats.


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Re: a new find somthing really knew to me [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #11234532 - 10/12/09 07:20 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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Whoa good to see you here, your print is in the mail, I really hope your research is successful. 

Since this was growing on a log I wonder if dowel spawn is a good idea.




thanks again alan. already have a few ideas to try. any clue what kind of tree that log was?


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Re: a new find somthing really knew to me [Re: the_chosen_one]
    #11234923 - 10/12/09 08:31 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

that will be very dificult to say the log was very old and i suggest you try alder and all hardwood you can find , wont hurt to try as many kind you can . i supose as ovoid are grow as the bethany strain will work perfect for this specie.


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    #11283247 - 10/20/09 12:36 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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that will be very dificult to say the log was very old and i suggest you try alder and all hardwood you can find , wont hurt to try as many kind you can . i supose as ovoid are grow as the bethany strain will work perfect for this specie.




perfect! i have been cutting wood for the winter so i have lots of alder and douglas fir dust and chips. plenty of other stuff to try too :laugh: will keep you posted my friend.

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