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Thimerosal in vaccines, is it dangerous or not?
    #11179225 - 10/04/09 10:57 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

So I read last week how the U.S. Geological Survey did a study that found mercury in fish from every one of 291 streams they tested across the United States. You dont need me to tell you that mercury is dangerous, but I started researching mercury to find out how dangerous.

Well, vaccines are often delivered to a doctor%u2019s office in a multi-dose vial with a rubber stopper. You%u2019ve probably seen a nurse or doctor poke a needle through the rubber and draw some fluid into a syringe. After that first puncture, bacteria could enter the vial and contaminate the vaccine, so it needs a preservative.

The most commonly used vaccine preservative is called Thimerosal. Here%u2019s what the FDA has to say about it: Thimerosal is a mercury-containing organic compound (an organomercurial).

Since the 1930s, it has been widely used as a preservative in a number of biological and drug products, including many vaccines, to help prevent potentially life threatening contamination with harmful microbes.

Over the past several years, because of an increasing awareness of the theoretical potential for neurotoxicity of even low levels of organomercurials and because of the increased number of thimerosal-containing vaccines that had been added to the infant immunization schedule, concerns about the use of thimerosal in vaccines and other products have been raised.

Indeed, because of these concerns, the Food and Drug Administration has worked with, and continues to work with, vaccine manufacturers to reduce or eliminate thimerosal from vaccines. Thimerosal has been removed from or reduced to trace amounts in all vaccines routinely recommended for children 6 years of age and younger, with the exception of inactivated influenza vaccine.%u201D

Thimerosal is nearly 50% mercury. Now, there is mercury and then there is mercury. Organic mercury that contained in Thimerosal is more dangerous than inorganic mercury, as it tends to hang around in the body longer. How dangerous is it?

According to one report, In 1977, a Russian study found that adults exposed to ethylmercury, the form of mercury in thimerosal, suffered brain damage years later. Studies on thimerosal poisoning also describe tubular necrosis and nervous system injury, including obtundation, coma and death. As a result of these findings, Russia banned thimerosal from children's vaccines in 1980. Denmark, Austria, Japan, Great Britain and all the Scandinavian countries have also banned the preservative.

So, basically, we have a vaccine that may not be needed, that was manufactured in a such a hurry by mega-corporations that the government has exempted them from liability, that hasnt been adequately tested, and that contains a known poison.

What could possibly go wrong?


http://www.examiner.com/x-17373-Phoenix-Signs-of-the-Times-Examiner~y2009m8d27-Thimerosal-organic-mercury-swine-flu-and-you


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Re: Thimerosal in vaccines, is it dangerous or not? [Re: FoURtWeNTy420]
    #11179247 - 10/04/09 11:01 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Thimerosal in vaccines, is it dangerous or not? [Re: FoURtWeNTy420]
    #11179351 - 10/04/09 11:20 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Thimerosal in vaccines, is it dangerous or not? [Re: FoURtWeNTy420]
    #11179357 - 10/04/09 11:21 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I wrote a paper on this for a psychology class a few years back - the effects of vaccinations and increased autism rates. Basically, all the studies I read said that it wasn't the MMR vaccines causing problems, it was the mercury in the vaccines.

So, yeah, it is dangerous. I hope I don't have kids until they fix this shit.


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Re: Thimerosal in vaccines, is it dangerous or not? [Re: Brennus]
    #11179373 - 10/04/09 11:23 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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Basically, all the studies I read said that it wasn't the MMR vaccines causing problems, it was the mercury in the vaccines.





Perhaps you could include some references in this topic. In all the discussions about thimerosal here in the Pub, I haven't seen a single reference to a somewhat credible source, so it seems that there's a sort of a gap here.


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Re: Thimerosal in vaccines, is it dangerous or not? [Re: Brennus]
    #11179393 - 10/04/09 11:27 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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Brennus said:
I wrote a paper on this for a psychology class a few years back - the effects of vaccinations and increased autism rates. Basically, all the studies I read said that it wasn't the MMR vaccines causing problems, it was the mercury in the vaccines.

So, yeah, it is dangerous. I hope I don't have kids until they fix this shit.





Which studies showed that?


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Re: Thimerosal in vaccines, is it dangerous or not? [Re: koraks]
    #11179411 - 10/04/09 11:30 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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koraks said:
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Brennus said:
Basically, all the studies I read said that it wasn't the MMR vaccines causing problems, it was the mercury in the vaccines.





Perhaps you could include some references in this topic. In all the discussions about thimerosal here in the Pub, I haven't seen a single reference to a somewhat credible source, so it seems that there's a sort of a gap here.




This exactly.

To address your point more directly however: I think that while mercury in products like thimerosal does pose a possible (emphasis on possible) health risk, the benefits of not letting children get things like measles, hepatitis, chicken pox and influenza seriously outweigh the possibility that they may down the road have some sort of loosely correlated damage to their nervous system. Fact of the matter is, even if the rate of autism were to spike to one in ten and we had definitive evidence that it was due to vaccination the benefits of preventing things like death, disfigurement and blindness would still outweigh preventing autism spectrum disorders.


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