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Sterilizing compost?
    #11178265 - 10/04/09 01:50 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Can somebody tell me the easiest way to sterilize compost? or send me a link or something? I was gona buy it premade but its kinda expensive 120 and up for 40lbs. If its easy enough I might just do it myself.


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Re: Sterilizing compost? [Re: 420service]
    #11178815 - 10/04/09 07:52 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I think people mostly pasteurize compost, not sterilize it.


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Re: Sterilizing compost? [Re: Doc_T]
    #11179052 - 10/04/09 10:16 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

i find that if you must stero then it is best to pc a 1/2 gal jar for 2 hrs then let it sit for a 3-5 day period. by then it should start to ferment or sour or just go bad Due to germination of the high temp spores. then pc again for 2 hrs. this should get rid of any thing left in it.

i do this with pure hpoo in myco bags and have no problems it just takes a few days. and i wait till it really gets going before i pc 2nd time.

good luck...... keep us posted on the knock up.


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Re: Sterilizing compost? [Re: ratdog]
    #11179080 - 10/04/09 10:24 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

That sounds like a terrible idea. I'm glad it works for you, and I don't think you should change anything. But that's not what I would recommend for other growers.


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Re: Sterilizing compost? [Re: Doc_T]
    #11179631 - 10/04/09 12:25 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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That sounds like a terrible idea. I'm glad it works for you, and I don't think you should change anything. But that's not what I would recommend for other growers.




why?
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its what they do in the labs.


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Re: Sterilizing compost? [Re: 420service]
    #11179637 - 10/04/09 12:26 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

doc read this its a goverment study and look close at the tek.

http://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/pdf1999/croan99a.pdf


i moded for my altitude of 10,000 foot. time wise


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Re: Sterilizing compost? [Re: ratdog]
    #11182171 - 10/04/09 08:22 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

yea i meant i want to pasteurize not sterilize... it only has to be pasteurized right??


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Re: Sterilizing compost? [Re: 420service]
    #11182200 - 10/04/09 08:25 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Most folks pasteurize bulk substrate, yes. Search engine can give you dozens or posts on why and how.


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Re: Sterilizing compost? [Re: 420service]
    #11182258 - 10/04/09 08:33 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

you can do sterilizing, but that really only works if you keep the substrate air tight and unexposed to everything outside of the bag or whatever you sterilized

here is a link to someone who used sterilized compost and it worked fine
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/4872154/an/0/page/0

pasteurizing is just hot enough to kill most spores but let beneficial bacteria live
unfortunately some misinformed retards will argue this is wrong, however that bacteria is found in poo mostly. since you are using compost you can probably assume it has them.

the only thing i hate about pasteurizing is using a damn pillow case full of horse poo sitting in a pot with horse poop water on my stove. kind of gross so ive been buying it from vendors. but im gonna start pasteurizing it myself again.


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Re: Sterilizing compost? [Re: Doc_T]
    #11182274 - 10/04/09 08:35 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

yeah my understanding is if you sterilize your killing everything so any benefit you would be getting from using hpoo would nadda...


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Re: Sterilizing compost? [Re: cloudsaregathering]
    #11182474 - 10/04/09 09:00 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

COMPOST?? For outdoor Cult? or do you mean CASING?  Sterilizing outdoor compost is equivalent to having a Komodo dragon uses mouthwash.  Might clean it for a sec, but that MFer is still going out and feeding on dead flesh every night.  NOW, if yer talking about CASING SOIL, then NO, do not STERILIZE.  Casing occurs at a stage when the mycelium is fully colonized and much more resistant to basic topical contamination.  STERILIZING your soil will destroy the helpful and balancing microflora abounding in it.  You will essentially have rooted the "lawn" of "grass" leaving plenty of space for "weeds"


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Re: Sterilizing compost? [Re: ReadBeforePosting]
    #11182502 - 10/04/09 09:04 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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COMPOST?? For outdoor Cult? or do you mean CASING?  Sterilizing outdoor compost is equivalent to having a Komodo dragon uses mouthwash.  Might clean it for a sec, but that MFer is still going out and feeding on dead flesh every night.  NOW, if yer talking about CASING SOIL, then NO, do not STERILIZE.  Casing occurs at a stage when the mycelium is fully colonized and much more resistant to basic topical contamination.  STERILIZING your soil will destroy the helpful and balancing microflora abounding in it.  You will essentially have rooted the "lawn" of "grass" leaving plenty of space for "weeds"



Quote:

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COMPOST?? For outdoor Cult? or do you mean CASING?  Sterilizing outdoor compost is equivalent to having a Komodo dragon uses mouthwash.  Might clean it for a sec, but that MFer is still going out and feeding on dead flesh every night.  NOW, if yer talking about CASING SOIL, then NO, do not STERILIZE.  Casing occurs at a stage when the mycelium is fully colonized and much more resistant to basic topical contamination.  STERILIZING your soil will destroy the helpful and balancing microflora abounding in it.  You will essentially have rooted the "lawn" of "grass" leaving plenty of space for "weeds"



holy shit...


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Re: Sterilizing compost? [Re: 420service]
    #11182510 - 10/04/09 09:05 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

quote] Can somebody tell me the easiest way to sterilize [pasteurize] compost?



you can try these wise words from a wise man-
Quote:

RogerRabbit said:
Fill PC with COLD water 1/2 to 2/3 of the way up the jars.
Cover and turn on the stove. Do not place the weight on your pc. Leave the vent open.
Allow the water to come to a boil where you can feel steam escaping from the vent hole.
Allow steam to escape for five minutes, but no longer.
Shut off the stove and leave the PC alone for 1/2 an hour.
Then repeat the process...bring it back up to a boil.
Allow steam to escape for five minutes, but no longer.
Shut off the stove and leave the PC alone for 2 hours.
At that time, you can remove the jars and they'll be just right.




i use this twice a week with 100% success. his advice is for jars but i prep six 3 quart bags at once.


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Re: Sterilizing compost? [Re: chillywilly419]
    #11182518 - 10/04/09 09:07 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

right on...


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Re: Sterilizing compost? [Re: ReadBeforePosting]
    #11182521 - 10/04/09 09:07 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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COMPOST?? For outdoor Cult? or do you mean CASING?  Sterilizing outdoor compost is equivalent to having a Komodo dragon uses mouthwash.  Might clean it for a sec, but that MFer is still going out and feeding on dead flesh every night.  NOW, if yer talking about CASING SOIL, then NO, do not STERILIZE.  Casing occurs at a stage when the mycelium is fully colonized and much more resistant to basic topical contamination.  STERILIZING your soil will destroy the helpful and balancing microflora abounding in it.  You will essentially have rooted the "lawn" of "grass" leaving plenty of space for "weeds"




WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FUCK YEHHHHHHHH
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Re: Sterilizing compost? [Re: SillyBilly]
    #11182557 - 10/04/09 09:11 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

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COMPOST?? For outdoor Cult? or do you mean CASING?  Sterilizing outdoor compost is equivalent to having a Komodo dragon uses mouthwash.  Might clean it for a sec, but that MFer is still going out and feeding on dead flesh every night.  NOW, if yer talking about CASING SOIL, then NO, do not STERILIZE.  Casing occurs at a stage when the mycelium is fully colonized and much more resistant to basic topical contamination.  STERILIZING your soil will destroy the helpful and balancing microflora abounding in it.  You will essentially have rooted the "lawn" of "grass" leaving plenty of space for "weeds"




WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FUCK YEHHHHHHHH
that paragraph hurts my eyes



thats what i was saying fuck i had to take a break in the middle of that...


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Re: Sterilizing compost? [Re: 420service]
    #11182558 - 10/04/09 09:11 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

With every grow it is beneficial to setup a few controls to test your thoughts and ideas.  Many cultivators have success without every affecting their casing soil in any way.  If you are intent on pasteurizing (stop thinking about sterilizing) than test a non pasteurized tray/tub/bin and note the differences.  Pasteurizing soil is a little difficult due to the size of it.  Get a high thread count pillow case and follow RR's past. tek minus the lime.


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Re: Sterilizing compost? [Re: cloudsaregathering]
    #11182603 - 10/04/09 09:16 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Sorry, I don't capitalize to yell but to make subject identification easier for post skimmers.


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Re: Sterilizing compost? [Re: ReadBeforePosting]
    #11182610 - 10/04/09 09:17 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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You will essentially have rooted the "lawn" of "grass" leaving plenty of space for "weeds"




what the fuck man. w t f.


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Re: Sterilizing compost? [Re: ReadBeforePosting]
    #11182624 - 10/04/09 09:19 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

and i'm surfing through TOR and i need me 50 posts ere i can post outside this forum.  heres one more


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