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Alternatives.
    #11173947 - 10/03/09 10:40 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

This thread is for information for those who take
regular drug tests, and are seeking knowledge on how
to continue to get high, on be it MDMA, Marijuana, or
anything else that tickles your fancy.
Post your alternatives to the commonly used drugs.
also add any known info about false positives, adverse
positives, etc.
For pot I've been using JWH-073. For those that don't know
its a synthetic that reacts on the CB-1 and CB-2 receptors.
It's a very nice replacement even if you don't have to
take regular tests. And with the prices you can find, its
way more worth buying than pot. The only bad part is you don't get
to taste the good dank.


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Re: Alternatives. [Re: mushroomtip]
    #11173979 - 10/03/09 10:57 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Ummm, for MDMA you can take MDA instead, very very similar experiences, im not sure if MDA would still come up in the screening though because they are so similar.


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Re: Alternatives. [Re: SirBlunt]
    #11173984 - 10/03/09 10:59 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

MDA is like weak mescaline.  more hallucinations than MDMA......


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Re: Alternatives. [Re: SirBlunt]
    #11174011 - 10/03/09 11:14 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I hear the best alternative for MDMA is bk-MDMA or methylone,it has nearly the same effect-profile being a tad more stimulating,I've been meaning to get my hands on some but i don't really trust those RC sites enough.

Also i'm pretty sure this will make you fail a drug-test,being that it has a nearly identical structure to MDMA.

If you are looking for something speedy best alternative would be MDPV or mephedrone,both are pretty similar to ritalin and amphetamines respectively so again,drug-testees beware.

The only thing that really beats drugs tests and gets you acceptably high are as you mentioned the synthetic cannabinoids mainly the JWH series and the CP series,i believe the HU series might make you fail a drug-test.But blends should be ok as those can't be smoked.


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Re: Alternatives. [Re: 13.step]
    #11174306 - 10/03/09 01:05 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

There are a great deal of alternative legal substitutes..
Again it all depends upon what you're seeking.
Check into some medicinal/entheogenic plants and herbs.

There is definetly one trip you need not really worry about, and that is DMT.
As for more a speedy trip, try http://www.erowid.org/plants/kratom/kratom.shtml (addictive potential).. for something more akin to cannabis, i've read that Labrador Tea[Ledum groenlandicum) (smokeing the leaves that are reddish/oranger on the underside-dried) is similar, though milder then bud. It actually grows naturally in a lot of North America- is considered an Amerindian shamanistic herb.

Wormwood also grows in a lot of NA, and an bascially home absinth can be made.
Idono is LSA comes up on drug screens-but a unique and different alternative for LSD..

Uhm.. Passion flower also has potential.

Nutmeg is apparently somewhat high risk.. do the research and check it out yourself. I actually enjoyed the stone, besides it's lenght(may still feel dif the next day), and the bad bad dry mouth..

DXM, though it is frowned upon here a fair bit, overall has a lot of mind-fuck/life-altering potential. Do anything possible to make an extract, read lots about it- very unique drug. (drinking cough syrup/massive amounts of pill filler  is terrible for the system)

uh, yea, check out some more for yourself. :laugh:


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Re: Alternatives. [Re: FunkMasterShroom]
    #11174494 - 10/03/09 01:45 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

:banana:substute for marijuana= marinol.


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Re: Alternatives. [Re: Salomon]
    #11174587 - 10/03/09 02:03 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

kratoms ok. never had it successfully work for me but i know ppl who have.


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Re: Alternatives. [Re: whatdidusay]
    #11174905 - 10/03/09 03:08 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah,forgot all about kratom...great stuff...stimulating in low doses,opiate-like in high doses...and it does not show up on drug tests


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Re: Alternatives. [Re: mushroomtip]
    #11175244 - 10/03/09 04:06 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

i get hella UA's. And ive been taking LSD, Mushrooms, mescaline, LSA, DXM, and ketamine with no detection in my screens.


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Re: Alternatives. [Re: LaughingSoDreamy]
    #11175501 - 10/03/09 04:44 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

DXM use can show up on a drug test as a PCP or opiate false-positive, so be careful with that one.


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Re: Alternatives. [Re: astronaut]
    #11178605 - 10/04/09 04:23 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

ACO = altwrative for zooooooms, me = rooooolling :smile:


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Re: Alternatives. [Re: SirBlunt]
    #11178616 - 10/04/09 04:36 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Will 2C-B show up on drug tests?

It sounds like it could be a good substitute for MDMA or Shrooms?


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Re: Alternatives. [Re: Thisfire]
    #11179463 - 10/04/09 11:40 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Could anyone post some good links on JWH-073? Never heard of it but sounds interesting.

Kratom is a sweet legal high, just watch out for making a habit out of it and it can give you constipation. Tastes kinda like green tea with lemon rind. High-dose for the full opiate-like buzz, but low doses are good if you want to be productive.

Blue water lily is a favorite, mild opiate-like buzz maker of mine. Unfortunately I go through the flowers and resin extracts quicker than with most substances due to the mildness. I don't particularly like sacred (pink) lotus or fragrant (white) water lily, though, just the blue for some reason.

DXM disagrees with me, though I've met folks who swear by it. I've had better luck with Ambien for a spacey time, though that isn't completely legal.

The body high of LSA can be wonderful in the absence of MDMA IMO, though you may have to deal with hallucinations, of course.

I enjoy Lion's Tail (the motherwort) flowers and resin as a good mimic of weed's basic euphoria, albeit without any mind-expanding or anxiety-inducing aspects.


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Re: Alternatives. [Re: N2loma]
    #11180760 - 10/04/09 04:23 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I heard as well that psilocyn and psilocybe are expensive to test for, and usually isnt..?

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i get hella UA's. And ive been taking LSD, Mushrooms, mescaline, LSA, DXM, and ketamine with no detection in my screens.



Definetly check into this more..


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DXM use can show up on a drug test as a PCP or opiate false-positive, so be careful with that one.




I didnt recall if I read that or not!, but definetley Keep it in mind!.. I suppose dosage would have an effect on making a false positive...?

and nutmeg also has an MAOI action, remember this too when potentially using it in combinations..


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Re: Alternatives. [Re: FunkMasterShroom]
    #11182822 - 10/04/09 09:38 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

nutmeg feels liek god took a shit on ur head. ive done it a few times and it lasts for days. the dry mouth is horrible though plus it tears up ur stomach and shit.

anyways.

u can always try nitrates too.


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Re: Alternatives. [Re: whatdidusay]
    #11198533 - 10/07/09 05:00 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Pink lotus is a nice benzo-like high.
mellows you out. Takes away anxiety, and
doesn't show up on a drug test. Kratom is nice,
but I haven't gotten that good of results with it
to date. I'm gonna try it again soon though.


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Re: Alternatives. [Re: FunkMasterShroom]
    #12026876 - 02/14/10 01:38 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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DXM use can show up on a drug test as a PCP or opiate false-positive, so be careful with that one.







um definitely don't take DXM if you're undergoing any kind of standard drug screening.  while in rehab (for pot LOL) i saw two or three different people test positive for PCP after robotripping the night before.  so really, don't fuck with it....


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Re: Alternatives. [Re: anfro]
    #12027118 - 02/14/10 02:29 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

nutmeg never did shit for me.
so i dont advise it
as for the guy who asked about RC's showing up in ua's.
i believe they won't with the exception of the MDA variants.
yeah yeah, most psychedellica dont show up in UA's.
i've kinda been wondering which JWH does better or is mroe powerful /similar to normal weed.
Jwh-18 or JWH -73
i know there are a few other variants, im just looking for the most similar thing to weed


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Re: Alternatives. [Re: FunkMasterShroom]
    #12027521 - 02/14/10 03:36 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

FunkMasterShroom said:



Wormwood also grows in a lot of NA, and an bascially home absinth can be made. "





I'd love to try that sometime... Hear some of the best is home brewed.. but it has
to be distilled. Don't think that's really legal in most places. Not that extracting dmt
is either.. just saying. I love absinthe occasionally  :wink: What I find amusing are the
ones you start talking to about it (this was before it was mostly legal in the us) and
are like, oh man.. I saw all kinds of crazy shit on that stuff.

I usually don't argue with them.. but have them elaborate on what they saw. haha

I do prefer the buzz to that over your standard alcohol .. def more energetic and
euphoric.. more of a clear headed buzz if that makes much sense.


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Re: Alternatives. [Re: ZenClarity]
    #12027535 - 02/14/10 03:38 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

i've heard its not full blown hallucinations off it.
just a psychedellic buzz of sorts


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