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Re: 2nd Project, 2nd failure (PICS) [Re: fundamentalchair]
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fundamentalchair said:
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I use Doc's WBS TEK, http://www.shroomery.org/9030/Docs-Wild-Bird-Seed-Tek. Some people say it's bunk. I get perfect jars EVERY time.



... cept those first 5 failures...

Reading over the 2 proposed tek's, Doc's is a shit ton of work. Assuming that both work equally as well, easier = easier. Hell, Foo's tek is easier than rye, and even a wuhot like me doesn't fuck up rye.



Again, another person promoting laziness.

If you want to have success, you must be willing to actually DO some work. This applies to everything in life, not just growing shrooms.


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Re: 2nd Project, 2nd failure (PICS) [Re: BrandNewbie]
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BrandNewbie said:
I don't want to add to the confusion, but I don't really mind at all so,

I use Doc's WBS TEK, http://www.shroomery.org/9030/Docs-Wild-Bird-Seed-Tek. Some people say it's bunk. I get perfect jars EVERY time.

It didn't seem as though your lids provided enough GE. I may be wrong about that, but my lids have a single GE hole in the center that is 1/2" diameter.

This is how I put my jars together:





The mycelium likes it:

A lot:

Stick with it, it'll work. I failed five times before I grew a single shroom. :goodluck:




ahh shit, im doing my first grains. (waiting for the jars to cool down)

iom doing the single hole with polyfill too, but my hole is only 1/4 inch. is that too small? :facepalm:

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Re: 2nd Project, 2nd failure (PICS) [Re: subiedude]
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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11019922

havent had a problem with this tek yet


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Re: 2nd Project, 2nd failure (PICS) [Re: dancefloordale]
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LOL, have you even tried it? Or are you one of the people on this site who just repeat old wives tales?

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Re: 2nd Project, 2nd failure (PICS) [Re: feelfunny]
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Again, another person promoting laziness.

If you want to have success, you must be willing to actually DO some work. This applies to everything in life, not just growing shrooms.



I think you misread a portion of my post, "Assuming that both work equally as well...". While I can attest to neither TEK's viability, are you suggesting that you should do the more convoluted of two processes for the same results?

When I run 4 pc loads in 12 hours, I would say that I'm doing plenty of work, thank you. I'm not promoting lazy, I'm promoting efficiency.

I understand that rye is hard to find for many people and WBS is all some people got. I can get rye, so I use it. If that's work that will have to be done for WBS, I'm stickin to rye.


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Re: 2nd Project, 2nd failure (PICS) [Re: fundamentalchair]
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fundamentalchair said:
... cept those first 5 failures...




Ha, ha, ha, ha, not.

Since your dieing to know, 1st attempt = non sponsored syringe, 2nd attempt = same as first, 3rd try = improper pasteurization, 4th try = same as third, 5th try = out of town emergency (bulk neglect).

It doesn't bother me to admit it. I have a HUGE dick, so I basically live the good life.  :wink: I have nothing to prove to myself.

The way you should look at it OP, is that you did not fail twice, you discovered two ways NOT to grow shrooms. If someone wants to get their jollies flaming you, just let the poor bastards, they need it. I look at it like, "Hey, I'm helping the losers too!" :grin:

DOC'S WBS TEK works, sorry if it bothers ya. Well, that's a lie...


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Re: 2nd Project, 2nd failure (PICS) [Re: BrandNewbie]
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Can we help the OP out instead of squabbling over techniques that all work?

Honestly.


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Re: 2nd Project, 2nd failure (PICS) [Re: dancefloordale]
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I have to state this cuz I know someone kept having a problem like this.  What they did wrong was not like the jars fully cool over night before inoculation.

So i figured I would post it, just in case thats what you may be doing.
But either way you will get it, just takes patience and sometime several tries


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Re: 2nd Project, 2nd failure (PICS) [Re: mushroomhunter10]
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You are right. I apologize.


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Re: 2nd Project, 2nd failure (PICS) [Re: RyeH]
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Since your dieing to know, 1st attempt = non sponsored syringe, 2nd attempt = same as first, 3rd try = improper pasteurization, 4th try = same as third, 5th try = out of town emergency (bulk neglect).



I'm just bustin your balls, dude. If its any consolation, me and mean green are getting to be ol buddies.

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Can we help the OP out instead of squabbling over techniques that all work?



So, are all of those tek's viable? I've considered WBS myself but have stayed away due to discussions such as this one.

Is there any value of getting rid of floaters/prolonged soaking/simmering (rather than flash boiling)? Any side-by-side comparisons? Is this something that I've nominated myself to do?


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semper necessitas probandi incumbit ei qui agit


Sclerotia FAQ... If ya ain't got any stones, grow some.

Will work for Laetiporus sulphureus culture/spores (or any other Laetiporus actually), :pm: me.

My Trade list.

Ghetto Tek: Auto FAE & Light

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Re: 2nd Project, 2nd failure (PICS) [Re: pftek]
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Okay. For next time use "How Foo Prepares Wild Bird Seed" search for it. There is a LOT of misinformation on this board. I don't know where you got your tek but soaking is USELESS.



Thats really weird. The trusted cultivators recomend soaking in quite a few of the threads I have read. weird weird. I have used docs wbs tek and had no problems

I would recomend it. I even had excess moisture and still got colonization. I do agree that you may have to many extras. I just added grain and PC.

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Re: 2nd Project, 2nd failure (PICS) [Re: Junkboxer]
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damn that is some funky ass cobweb...


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Re: 2nd Project, 2nd failure (PICS) [Re: cloudsaregathering]
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its not cobweb. it produces shrooms. Just bad pic quality

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Re: 2nd Project, 2nd failure (PICS) [Re: deathblade]
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oh, eye c, that top stuff sure does look weird though...


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Re: 2nd Project, 2nd failure (PICS) [Re: cloudsaregathering]
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Like I said I had excessive moisture. I am pretty sure that is what caused it to react like that.

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Re: 2nd Project, 2nd failure (PICS) [Re: cloudsaregathering]
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Is there any value of getting rid of floaters/prolonged soaking/simmering (rather than flash boiling)? Any side-by-side comparisons? Is this something that I've nominated myself to do?



This thread popped up and seemed relevant.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/8186321

Apparently floaters may not be so bad. Any arguments for/against simmering vs. flash boiling?


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Sclerotia FAQ... If ya ain't got any stones, grow some.

Will work for Laetiporus sulphureus culture/spores (or any other Laetiporus actually), :pm: me.

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Re: 2nd Project, 2nd failure (PICS) [Re: fundamentalchair]
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Floaters may not harm your grow, however most floaters are just empty shells. These are not going to retain water or provide nutrients. They certainly do not help, but I guess they do no harm either. I like to remove them. Its personal preference though.


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Re: 2nd Project, 2nd failure (PICS) [Re: fundamentalchair]
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Re: 2nd Project, 2nd failure (PICS) [Re: dancefloordale]
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dancefloordale said:
Floaters may not harm your grow, however most floaters are just empty shells. These are not going to retain water or provide nutrients. They certainly do not help, but I guess they do no harm either. I like to remove them. Its personal preference though.



lol, you still haven't provided a reason why you THINK it's bad advice.

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Re: 2nd Project, 2nd failure (PICS) [Re: pftek]
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? what are you talking about?


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