fundamentalchair said:

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I use Doc's WBS TEK, http://www.shroomery.org/9030/Docs-Wild-Bird-Seed-Tek. Some people say it's bunk. I get perfect jars EVERY time.

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... cept those first 5 failures...

Reading over the 2 proposed tek's, Doc's is a shit ton of work. Assuming that both work equally as well, easier = easier. Hell, Foo's tek is easier than rye, and even a wuhot like me doesn't fuck up rye.

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BrandNewbie said:

I don't want to add to the confusion, but I don't really mind at all so,

I use Doc's WBS TEK, http://www.shroomery.org/9030/Docs-Wild-Bird-Seed-Tek. Some people say it's bunk. I get perfect jars EVERY time.

It didn't seem as though your lids provided enough GE. I may be wrong about that, but my lids have a single GE hole in the center that is 1/2" diameter.

This is how I put my jars together:





The mycelium likes it:

A lot:

Stick with it, it'll work. I failed five times before I grew a single shroom.

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ahh shit, im doing my first grains. (waiting for the jars to cool down)

iom doing the single hole with polyfill too, but my hole is only 1/4 inch. is that too small?

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Again, another person promoting laziness.

If you want to have success, you must be willing to actually DO some work. This applies to everything in life, not just growing shrooms.

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fundamentalchair said:

... cept those first 5 failures...

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Ha, ha, ha, ha, not.

Since your dieing to know, 1st attempt = non sponsored syringe, 2nd attempt = same as first, 3rd try = improper pasteurization, 4th try = same as third, 5th try = out of town emergency (bulk neglect).

It doesn't bother me to admit it. I have a HUGE dick, so I basically live the good life.  I have nothing to prove to myself.

The way you should look at it OP, is that you did not fail twice, you discovered two ways NOT to grow shrooms. If someone wants to get their jollies flaming you, just let the poor bastards, they need it. I look at it like, "Hey, I'm helping the losers too!"

DOC'S WBS TEK works, sorry if it bothers ya. Well, that's a lie...

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Since your dieing to know, 1st attempt = non sponsored syringe, 2nd attempt = same as first, 3rd try = improper pasteurization, 4th try = same as third, 5th try = out of town emergency (bulk neglect).

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Can we help the OP out instead of squabbling over techniques that all work?

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Is there any value of getting rid of floaters/prolonged soaking/simmering (rather than flash boiling)? Any side-by-side comparisons? Is this something that I've nominated myself to do?

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dancefloordale said:

Floaters may not harm your grow, however most floaters are just empty shells. These are not going to retain water or provide nutrients. They certainly do not help, but I guess they do no harm either. I like to remove them. Its personal preference though.

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