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OfflineMushr00m_Man
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interested in yopo have some questions
    #11171687 - 10/02/09 09:49 PM (8 years, 23 days ago)

ok so im extremly interested in yopo ive done almost every psychedelic out there except this one. im looking for good snuff recipes. also is there a way to consume and trip with out the violent barfing i have been reading about?


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Re: interested in yopo have some questions [Re: Mushr00m_Man]
    #11171827 - 10/02/09 10:28 PM (8 years, 23 days ago)

I took the black casings off the seeds ground them into fine chunks and smoked it to achieve effects.


Effects are similar to a mild smoked DMT experience......but you can REALLY feel the bufentin.......it gave me EXTREME body load.....more so than any other psyche I've taken.


Never tried the snuff, but it doens't sound in the least bit pleasant, or nearly rewarding enough for what it entails.


Good luck to you.


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Re: interested in yopo have some questions [Re: Mushr00m_Man]
    #11171913 - 10/02/09 10:51 PM (8 years, 22 days ago)

Roasting the seeds is an important step that seems to convert the unpleasant bufotenine-N-oxide back to the more-pleasant bufotenine.  Typically this is done by toasting the seeds on a a hot pan.  Personally, I prefer to do the heating after I powder the seeds and mix in some lime and a bit of water. After stirring that for a bit, I transfer the thick slurry/paste onto a baking sheet and bake for several minutes at 280 F (135 C).

But bufotenine-N-oxide isn't the only chemical responsible for side effects, some can be caused by more heat-stable chemicals in the seeds.  If you're lucky, your seeds won't contain any (or much) of these. If your seeds do cause those side-effects, the easiest way I know to get rid of them involves extracting with acetone and citric acid, and crystallizing from a mix of heptane and MEK.


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Re: interested in yopo have some questions [Re: Entropymancer]
    #11171928 - 10/02/09 10:54 PM (8 years, 22 days ago)

And yeah, like vandago says, smoking is really the way to go. Still prepare them the way you would the snuff (remove husks, powder seed-meat, add calcium hydroxide or calcium carbonate and a little water, bake until dry). But smoke the stuff rather than get a noseful of peanut-buttery alkaline gunk.


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Re: interested in yopo have some questions [Re: Entropymancer]
    #11171939 - 10/02/09 10:57 PM (8 years, 22 days ago)

entropymancer what ammount of lime do i add to how much seed powder and how much water do you add. also can you put a link to the extraction teks you mentioned.  after doing the process you described how much of the ill effects does it take out. is it possible to do some of the snuff and get zero ill effect?


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Re: interested in yopo have some questions [Re: Mushr00m_Man]
    #11171966 - 10/02/09 11:05 PM (8 years, 22 days ago)

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Mushr00m_Man said:
entropymancer what ammount of lime do i add to how much seed powder and how much water do you add.



It doesn't take much lime. At most a ratio of 1 part lime to 10 parts seed. How much water isn't terribly important, just enough to make it a nice freeflowing paste.

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also can you put a link to the extraction teks you mentioned.



See my sig :wink:

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after doing the process you described how much of the ill effects does it take out.



Depends on the seeds. Toasting seems to just remove the bufotenine-N-oxide, I don't think it affects any other bioactive compounds, so it'll remove any ill effects that are due to the presence of the oxide.

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is it possible to do some of the snuff and get zero ill effect?



Yeah, with good seeds there's no ill effects whatsoever. Or if you extract crude freebase bufotenine via the citrate salt in acetone, then recrystallize in a heptane/MEK mix (see link in my sig), you'll get clean freebase bufotenine without any side effects.


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Re: interested in yopo have some questions [Re: Entropymancer]
    #11172018 - 10/02/09 11:21 PM (8 years, 22 days ago)

which link in your sig?


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Re: interested in yopo have some questions [Re: Entropymancer]
    #11172414 - 10/03/09 01:01 AM (8 years, 22 days ago)

wow thank you so much if i could give another plus five i would.


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