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Intuition and Medicine
    #11168057 - 10/02/09 02:58 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Before the era of using advanced technology to diagnose illness doctors had to rely moreso on their intuition in order to diagnose problems and this resulted in doctors being better. With the advent of using advanced technology to diagnose diseases the result has been that doctors have become less intuitive and thus perform poorly.

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Re: Intuition and Medicine [Re: lines]
    #11168070 - 10/02/09 03:02 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Perform poorly compared to who/when?


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Re: Intuition and Medicine [Re: Mufungo]
    #11168096 - 10/02/09 03:17 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

They perform poorly compared to Avicenna

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Re: Intuition and Medicine [Re: Mufungo]
    #11168193 - 10/02/09 04:32 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

What aspect of performance is being assessed? ...number of lives saved? ...reduction of morbidity?


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Re: Intuition and Medicine [Re: Mufungo]
    #11168241 - 10/02/09 05:18 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Modern doctors cook the books so to speak. Deaths caused by doctor mistakes are often attributed to the disease being treated rather than incompetent treatment when incompetent treatment is the cause.

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Re: Intuition and Medicine [Re: lines]
    #11168452 - 10/02/09 07:03 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

No doctors were incompetent back in the day of Avicenna (c. 980 - 1037)?

How do you know they weren't cooking the books back then?


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Re: Intuition and Medicine [Re: lines]
    #11168699 - 10/02/09 08:30 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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Before the era of using advanced technology to diagnose illness doctors had to rely moreso on their intuition in order to diagnose problems and this resulted in doctors being better. With the advent of using advanced technology to diagnose diseases the result has been that doctors have become less intuitive and thus perform poorly.



nothing but a bunch of meaningless, unsubstantiated words.


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Re: Intuition and Medicine [Re: lines]
    #11168711 - 10/02/09 08:34 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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Before the era of using advanced technology to diagnose illness doctors had to rely moreso on their intuition in order to diagnose problems and this resulted in doctors being better. With the advent of using advanced technology to diagnose diseases the result has been that doctors have become less intuitive and thus perform poorly.




How many doctors do you actually know?
What actual information do you have with which to determine whether or not doctors in general have become less intuitive with the advent of advanced technology?

Maybe your post would have been less intuitive if you had actually spent time gathering more information and means to diagnose your topic? :rofl2:

Don't bother answering the questions, though. :wink:


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Re: Intuition and Medicine [Re: fireworks_god]
    #11169009 - 10/02/09 10:17 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

How many doctors do you know, how many time have you spent gather information? Don't bother answering the questions, thought, I think it's obvious to everyone you are quite clueless yourself or you would have replied with atleast some content.


Anyway, back on topic, good point. It seems the more advanced tecchnology gets, the less we have to train our minds as technology takes over. Look at peoples memory for example, people can barely remember their  own names, whereas 2000 years ago, every single student was able to remember the whole work of Homerus, letter by letter. Why? Because they had to, they didn't have book printing technology.

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Re: Intuition and Medicine [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #11169022 - 10/02/09 10:19 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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nothing but a bunch of meaningless, unsubstantiated words.



Congratiulations. You win the price of the most meaningful, substantiated argument of the month.

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Re: Intuition and Medicine [Re: Diaboleros]
    #11169151 - 10/02/09 10:49 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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How many doctors do you know, how many time have you spent gather information? Don't bother answering the questions, thought, I think it's obvious to everyone you are quite clueless yourself or you would have replied with atleast some content.




Please explain how the matter of how many doctors I know is in any way pertinent to my question of how many doctors he knows.
Is there a certain number of doctors I need to know in order to be qualified to ask him how many he knows?
You do understand, of course, how necessary it is to know how many doctors he has actually observed to be able to understand how valid his conclusion regarding doctors in general would be?

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Look at peoples memory for example, people can barely remember their  own names




How many people do you know that can barely remember their own names?

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, whereas 2000 years ago, every single student was able to remember the whole work of Homerus, letter by letter.




You knew every single student from 2,000 years ago and whether or not they were able to remember the whole work of Homerus?
Which information are you privileged to from which you were able to make such a conclusion?


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Re: Intuition and Medicine [Re: Diaboleros]
    #11169154 - 10/02/09 10:50 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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You win the price...




Cool, send it to my CC. :smile:


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Re: Intuition and Medicine [Re: fireworks_god]
    #11169160 - 10/02/09 10:51 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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You do understand, of course...




Dream on, Freckles. :lol:


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Re: Intuition and Medicine [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #11173798 - 10/03/09 07:24 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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Quote:

lines said:
Before the era of using advanced technology to diagnose illness doctors had to rely moreso on their intuition in order to diagnose problems and this resulted in doctors being better. With the advent of using advanced technology to diagnose diseases the result has been that doctors have become less intuitive and thus perform poorly.



nothing but a bunch of meaningless, unsubstantiated words.





That I agree with.:satansmoking:


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