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Invisiblenowwhoutthink
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life after death??? just another dream?
    #11168957 - 10/02/09 11:58 AM (8 years, 18 days ago)

whats your idea of life after death??

sorry if this is a thread that is made alot, but after lot of deathts ih my family in the past few yeras it makes me wonder what awaits..


sometimes I think dreams are just a look at what life after death hold, like some sort of look into another world, and who know say that once you die you are put into a endless dream,,,??? and you do what you want.

or is that just hoopefull thinking...*i am not a religious person..


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Re: life after death??? just another dream? [Re: nowwhoutthink]
    #11169003 - 10/02/09 12:15 PM (8 years, 18 days ago)

A zen master was once approached by a student.

"Master, what happens to us after we die?"

"I don't know," replied the master.

"But you're a zen master!" protested the student.

"Yes," he replied, "but I am not a dead zen master."


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Re: life after death??? just another dream? [Re: Silversoul]
    #11169060 - 10/02/09 12:29 PM (8 years, 18 days ago)

I'd like to believe that when we die, we simply wake up in a new reality, just like we wake up from our dreams into this reality. But yeah ok, thats something I will only find out when I have actually died.

I don't think "it's just hopeful thinking" as there are many many ancient sources who claim that there is life after death, and the way they describe it is all the same, so there must be a way to visit this life after death, before you die.  Also many lucid dreamers, have gone a step further than normal dreaming, and claim to be able to go from their dreams to heaven, help dead people cross over etc. I don't know if this is true, but it is what these people claim.

So yeah, the only way to find out is either die, or get into lucid dreaming.


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Re: life after death??? just another dream? [Re: nowwhoutthink]
    #11169384 - 10/02/09 01:39 PM (8 years, 18 days ago)

My personal belief is that you either descend to a lower plane of existence, reincarnate into another physical body in this realm, or you ascend to a spirit realm. In between incarnations, I believe your memory is erased and you begin life all over again as if it was your first time being alive. I believe this cycle continues for eternity.


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Re: life after death??? just another dream? [Re: NlightNd1]
    #11169568 - 10/02/09 02:11 PM (8 years, 18 days ago)

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NlightNd1 said:
My personal belief is that you either descend to a lower plain of existence, reincarnate into another physical body in this realm, or you ascend to a spirit realm. In between incarnations, I believe your memory is erased and you begin life all over again as if it was your first time being alive. I believe this cycle continues for eternity.




Yes I believe similarly.

I also believe that we are at choice any time we choose to incarnate into a different life/world/body/dimension.

I believe that death is similar to returning to the knowledge of the sum of all our experience and all ultimate truth.  Being born anew is just a fantastic way to spend time.

Life is intense.


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Re: life after death??? just another dream? [Re: Ginseng1]
    #11169582 - 10/02/09 02:13 PM (8 years, 18 days ago)

I think it depends a lot on our beliefs. A subjective experience in a objective reality, much like life. After some "time" we may work some stuff out and realize all of this. And "we" may choose to incarnate again.


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Re: life after death??? just another dream? [Re: c0sm0nautt]
    #11169623 - 10/02/09 02:20 PM (8 years, 18 days ago)

The best explanation I have read about death was from  Alan Watts, and the other day I found this powerful video of his called : Death checkitout


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Re: life after death??? just another dream? [Re: zzripz]
    #11169984 - 10/02/09 03:39 PM (8 years, 18 days ago)

any other opinions....this always interests me..


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Re: life after death??? just another dream? [Re: nowwhoutthink]
    #11170304 - 10/02/09 04:43 PM (8 years, 18 days ago)

Dreaming IMO is an out of body experience.
There are many levels for this experience , and we have a number of bodies to project.
There is a subtle body that contains the base memory and the memory collected by the feedback from the projected doubles.
The base memory subtle body never leaves the physical body until death.

So yes.. you could say it will be like a dream , only a fully conscious one.

You dont have to incarnate again.
Like cosmo said , i too believe that this will be a personal preference.

As to what sort of events you will be experiencing upon death , i couldnt say.
It is like asking us , what will happen to you tomorrow when you wake up.

A lot of it is connected to the way you die , the location , and a general belief system that you hold on to.

By no means do i agree with the statement that we keep on reincarnating with a new base memory every time.
The only reason you think this is your first life , if that is what you think , is because of the veil between the conscious and subconscious mind.
The base memory contains all these experiences , and even during regular OBE's or hypnotic regression are these memories accessible.

Given our current situation in relation to the galactic events... if you die now.. i can almost guarantee you that you will never again incarnate on this planet in the 3rd density.

The scenario you're looking at is simply chilling with the other dead folks until the transition , after which death will no longer be a troubling issue , as our physical lives will last for thousands of years , and the process of dying will be one caused by a conscious decision of the individual , while the individual is fully aware of the circumstances he/she will find itself in upon finally leaving the physical vehicle.

In a more general sense... every individual has to , and will experience contact with Intelligent Infinity , or what many have called God ,  The light , The source etc..
It is during this contact that all your questions may be answered in order to make a choice , in which manner will you continue your existence.
Incarnation , once more in the 3rd density , simply means that one requires (by personal choice ) more experiences in the solid physical realm of duality in order better refine his choice of polarity for the further stages.
But.. i have reasons to believe that this probably will not happen to any of us , as we have endured more than one 13.000 yr cycle .. which is - more than enough.

I could really speak of such things on and on..
so if you feel curious..
just ask and ill be better at providing a response

and yea..
this is just my opinion.
gotta say that..

:peace:


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They are derived from an acute mental illness , from which i am forced to lie compulsively.
I have never induced any kind of mind altering substance in my life  and i have no intentions whatsoever of doing anything illegal.
If I have ever suggested such a thing it would have most likely been , due to my personality disorder and i probably do not remember it at all..


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Re: life after death??? just another dream? [Re: nowwhoutthink]
    #11170970 - 10/02/09 07:01 PM (8 years, 18 days ago)

You know all that time before you were born? I think it's gonna be just like that.


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Re: life after death??? just another dream? [Re: blewmeanie]
    #11171015 - 10/02/09 07:08 PM (8 years, 18 days ago)

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blewmeanie said:
You know all that time before you were born? I think it's gonna be just like that.



And what was that like?


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Re: life after death??? just another dream? [Re: Silversoul]
    #11171036 - 10/02/09 07:13 PM (8 years, 18 days ago)



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Re: life after death??? just another dream? [Re: blewmeanie]
    #11171045 - 10/02/09 07:15 PM (8 years, 18 days ago)

no man it won't be like your dreams


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Re: life after death??? just another dream? [Re: blewmeanie]
    #11171047 - 10/02/09 07:15 PM (8 years, 18 days ago)

Personally, I don't remember anything that happened to me before the age of 2, yet I'm fairly sure that I had experiences before then.  So talking about what it was like before I was born isn't really a fair question, since I also don't remember what it was like for a while after I was born either.


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Re: life after death??? just another dream? [Re: dummy]
    #11171073 - 10/02/09 07:21 PM (8 years, 18 days ago)

You're so silly:smilingpuppy:


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Re: life after death??? just another dream? [Re: blewmeanie]
    #11171571 - 10/02/09 09:20 PM (8 years, 17 days ago)

There is evidence of an afterlife.

Miracles, apparitions, near death experiences.

The most convincing near death experiences are from kids and blind people that can see during these experiences.

One miracle in particular is The Miracle of Fatima, pretty convincing when 100,000 (give or take) people witnessed it.


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Re: life after death??? just another dream? [Re: mushroomhunter10]
    #11171641 - 10/02/09 09:40 PM (8 years, 17 days ago)

^ That's not evidence at all regarding an after life

Being dead and almost being dead are two different things

The only true way to find out is to die, and if you die you don't get to come back and share the experience twice


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Re: life after death??? just another dream? [Re: mushroomhunter10]
    #11171645 - 10/02/09 09:41 PM (8 years, 17 days ago)

Miracles, apparitions, and near death experiences are not evidence of an afterlife.  "Past life regression" and the blind people NDEs spoken about can be substantiated as psychic phenomena.  Those who want to explore the best option for theorizing that there is an afterlife are best served by "ghost phenomena".  Personally, I think that the conscious-souls-caught-up-halfway perception of such phenomena is flimsy.

Individual consciousness after death?  I'm of the blown out light bulb stance at this point.  Many look at this as a bleak outlook.  I'd say that it's better suited for living life to the fullest without silly "judgement day" restrictions based on flimsy afterlife dogma.


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Re: life after death??? just another dream? [Re: lavod]
    #11171786 - 10/02/09 10:19 PM (8 years, 17 days ago)

Yean I'm sure 100,000 people had a simultaneous psychic phenomenon at Fatima... lol


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Re: life after death??? just another dream? [Re: mushroomhunter10]
    #11171854 - 10/02/09 10:36 PM (8 years, 17 days ago)

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Yean I'm sure 100,000 people had a simultaneous psychic phenomenon at Fatima... lol



If you would re-read my sentence where psychic phenomena was mentioned, you will note that no reference to Fatima was made.  And while Fatima is certainly an interesting case(IIRC R.A.W. make a few good points on the subject in "Prometheus Rising"), I fail to see conclusive evidence of an afterlife using this example.  It can easily be categorized as "ghost phenomena" from which, as I indicated in my previous post, a number of theories can be constructed in order to dissect(and I'll remind that my opinion is that the "conscious soul" idea is flimsy).  I'll also point out that Fatima as not an apparition of an "average Joe", but of a revered religious figure.  I've had visual encounters of certain deities myself, yet I do not see how this is evidence at all that one retains consciousness after the brain is dead.


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