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you can walk away from it all. you just choose to go with this lifestyle because a.) everyone told you to and everyone does it. or b.) you can't give up what that money represents to you. And in turn you'd rather give up your freedom and your thoughts on corporate time.

to say you can't do it is just plain denial.

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Mataspore said:
That is illogical, maybe.

Maybe its best not to worry about it?

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pftek said:
i'm thinking introspectively here. it's just boggles my mind how these objects and atoms can come together and form something that is alive and thinks. I don't think any animal actually thinks or have this concept or notion that it's actually alive - it just acts - it doesn't know any better. yet we have this odd ability to actually understand and try to make sense why?

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Mataspore said:
Where did the first atom come from?
...and why?

I notice this thredd gawt slightly off-subject.

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you can walk away from it all. you just choose to go with this lifestyle because a.) everyone told you to and everyone does it. or b.) you can't give up what that money represents to you. And in turn you'd rather give up your freedom and your thoughts on corporate time.

to say you can't do it is just plain denial.

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I'm going with this lifestyle purely to buy my land (outright, no loan), I save close to 90% of my salary.

I have walked away from it all, without land and basic ammenities I found it close to impossible. Owning land is important because living as a hunter gatherer is basically illegal, I got fined $450 for collecting/eating fruit in a national forest during my little adventure, not to mention you got to pay a daily fee to even pitch a shitty tent in the middle of nowhere.

The local government have made a "no money" lifestyle illegal, that's why I argue that you just can't "walk away from it".

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pftek said:
i'm thinking introspectively here. it's just boggles my mind how these objects and atoms can come together and form something that is alive and thinks. I don't think any animal actually thinks or have this concept or notion that it's actually alive - it just acts - it doesn't know any better. yet we have this odd ability to actually understand and try to make sense why?

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dolphins, whales...cetaceans

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Mataspore said:
I remember I had that month phase where I thought animals should be treated as equal as us.

Then, I realized how retarded animals are, from our intellectual minds that is.

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Mataspore said:
Where did the first atom come from?
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I notice this thredd gawt slightly off-subject.

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I know the answer, but I couldn't possibly explain it well. It just is. I know that is cliche, but when you REALLY see it, it's the most mindblowing thing ever. I have seen it before, and known the concept, but not like I saw it just a few days ago, and I feel like my whole life had been leading up to that point, and now I am as ecstatic as can be from this point on. Where did the first atom come from? from the first atom, from right now, from the end. There is nothing outside the realm of possibility, but there is also NOT "nothing". There is ultimately no difference between anything....bah it's impossible for me to explain right now, but that is infinity itself, which is the same thing as nothing. It's standing still and moving all at once. You couldn't even consider the possibility of "nothing" if it weren't inside the realm of possibility, which is only possible because it is possible. That is all there is, and it is everything, everywhere, every time, and every possibility at all once. It simply couldn't be any other way, and the fact that it even is is infinitely mindboggling and ecstatic...bah sorry for sounding like a retard, i'm sick and my mind isnt working too well, but this is by far the most amazing thing ever, simply the fact that it IS, because without that, there's not even nothing...it didn't just appear out of nowhere, and it wasn't created...in order for anything to anything, then: something. It's the only hway

and why? why not


I felt like it

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Mataspore said:
Nothing truly exists without the brain interpreting it!

Oh snahp.

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Mataspore said:
Where did the first atom come from?
...and why?

I notice this thredd gawt slightly off-subject.

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I know the answer, but I couldn't possibly explain it well. It just is. I know that is cliche, but when you REALLY see it, it's the most mindblowing thing ever. I have seen it before, and known the concept, but not like I saw it just a few days ago, and I feel like my whole life had been leading up to that point, and now I am as ecstatic as can be from this point on. Where did the first atom come from? from the first atom, from right now, from the end. There is nothing outside the realm of possibility, but there is also NOT "nothing". There is ultimately no difference between anything....bah it's impossible for me to explain right now, but that is infinity itself, which is the same thing as nothing. It's standing still and moving all at once. You couldn't even consider the possibility of "nothing" if it weren't inside the realm of possibility, which is only possible because it is possible. That is all there is, and it is everything, everywhere, every time, and every possibility at all once. It simply couldn't be any other way, and the fact that it even is is infinitely mindboggling and ecstatic...bah sorry for sounding like a retard, i'm sick and my mind isnt working too well, but this is by far the most amazing thing ever, simply the fact that it IS, because without that, there's not even nothing...it didn't just appear out of nowhere, and it wasn't created...in order for anything to anything, then: something. It's the only hway

and why? why not


I felt like it

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