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starting some poppies(update) + new bed
    #11164391 - 10/01/09 05:09 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

so lastime i planted poppies i got them to sprout but i planted them too late in the season.  they died.  also i planted them in pots.


i was told to plant em next october.  sooo,  this year i have one of those little plastic baby pools that i shot a bunch of times for drainage.  once i put some more holes im gonna put it on some cinder blocks so it can be raised and maybe help drain better.  but i was wondering what kind of soil or mixture to use?  and should i put some pocks at the bottom of the pot to help it  drain?


also i wasa worried about planting them right now because i live in socal in a canyon and the santa anna winds are bad here.  they blow fences and trees over.  should i wait maybe till the end of the month to start them?  im afraid the hot dry air and strong wonds would kill them.


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Re: starting some poppies [Re: fatso]
    #11187444 - 10/05/09 04:38 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

bump.  nobody has anything to say?


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Re: starting some poppies [Re: fatso]
    #11187811 - 10/05/09 05:41 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Just plant them in the coldest days of the year.


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Re: starting some poppies [Re: felixhigh]
    #11187826 - 10/05/09 05:43 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

ok.  does the baby pool planter bed sound like a good idea?


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Re: starting some poppies [Re: fatso]
    #11187853 - 10/05/09 05:47 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

A raised bed is a good idea. Use good soil (rich) but it has to be well composted. I think some straw in the mix can be benefical for the seedlings, but i never tried it.


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Re: starting some poppies [Re: felixhigh]
    #11188295 - 10/05/09 06:51 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

should i put a lot of perlite in it too to help it drain faster?  what about rocks at the bottom?

ps i only have supersoil cactus and palm soil and miracle grow moisture retaining soil(holds up to 25% more water) so ill prolly go buy some more soil.  any reccomendations?


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Re: starting some poppies [Re: fatso]
    #11189217 - 10/05/09 08:50 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Just get some general garden mix and mix in some organic matter. I wouldn't worry about perlite so long as the pool has sufficient holes for drainage.


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Re: starting some poppies [Re: karode13]
    #11189594 - 10/05/09 09:44 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Ok.  im gonna try to get this done soon.


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Re: starting some poppies [Re: fatso]
    #11191451 - 10/06/09 03:31 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Ive noticed that the seedlings I have around the freshly layed shredded redwood have a better survival rate. I think it has somthing to do with the raised protection or something. I think Im going to lay some straw over my area cause Im going to plant more seeds.... Anyone want to go down on 50lbs of seed? lol


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Re: starting some poppies [Re: OverdoseLiving]
    #11192187 - 10/06/09 10:02 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Could one theoretically throw poppies in an ebb/flow tray with a cannabis grow? I'd have to do the research on the light cycles, etc., I suppose...


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Re: starting some poppies [Re: rainst0rm]
    #11195903 - 10/06/09 08:49 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I have seen hydro poppies before.


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Re: starting some poppies [Re: OverdoseLiving]
    #11195917 - 10/06/09 08:52 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

This means it can be done. I think I'll try :smile:


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Re: starting some poppies [Re: rainst0rm]
    #11201075 - 10/07/09 04:38 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

poppies have very fragile root systems. not sure hydro would be the best way to do it. i'm very ignorant about hydroponics but it does involve washing the roots with copiuos amounts of water correct? this would leach a great deal of opium from the root systems. poppies are not generally an indoor plant. they like cannabis need a certain intensisty of light to produce a worthwhile alkaloidial composition. indoor lights just won't cut it. you'd need at least a 1000 watter to be somewhat worthwhile and even then, you can only fit so many poppies under each light. poppies have a very low yield per plant. indoors could be plausible but honestly it would be more work than its worth.

i think your kiddypool idea is great. definately throw some rocks at the bottom to discourage the holes from clogging. poppies will tolerate just about any soil. any soil mix will do you well. stay away from perlite tho, it won't hold up well. it might loosen thangs up to much and allow a bit of play in the root zone (from its varrying degrees of moisture content). like i said before the roots are fragile. mix in some sand (instead of plite), crushed eggshells (calcium source) or touch of lime, and bone meal..... this is how i like it anyhow. feed only in the veggie and early bolting stage. organic liquid nutes are great for this. fuck some cheap alaskan fish emulsion would do the job. poppies don't whine and complain, they make do w what they got. they'd prefer a nice rich soil but they'll never gripe about their shortcommings.

when to plant? that depends on yer local scene. yes avoid letting yer babies get sunscorched by all means. a wave of heat will ruin an entire crop. plant when thangs get a bit cooler. although if your winters often involve frost or snowfall, then hold off until this season is coming to a close. i'm in louisiana and october-november is our normal planting time, considering the wimpy cold weather during our winters. it's said to plant after the last frost. but if u wanted to get a head start then plant now but do your best to keep the soil moist during those hot days. water with a mist noozle on yer hose. just the pressure from a normal nozzle could flood away the tiny fuckers and ruin their root systems. park a light blocker in front of yer spot too. a barbq is a good choice. anything to block the severe rays of the suns light yer not leaving the area completely void of illumination. if its hot, then block the majority of the light.... it'll cook them fuckers dead

hope this helps. lemme know if there's anything else. i'm no expert but i've been playing with pops for a couple of years now. might be able to help.

good luck buddy :thumbup:


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Re: starting some poppies [Re: Lipa Kreepa]
    #11202892 - 10/07/09 09:24 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

how pointless would it be to grow cali poppies indoors?


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Re: starting some poppies [Re: nowwhoutthink]
    #11203687 - 10/07/09 11:15 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

lol, I was thinking the same thing


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Re: starting some poppies [Re: theMallacht]
    #11205938 - 10/08/09 07:55 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I thaught briefly about it but decided they would suck as an indoor plant. Each to their own of course.


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Re: starting some poppies [Re: Fleadh]
    #11207130 - 10/08/09 01:20 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Cali poppies are the wrong plant.


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Re: starting some poppies [Re: OverdoseLiving]
    #11207167 - 10/08/09 01:27 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

they grow pretty wild...def leave em for outdoors. imo


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Re: starting some poppies [Re: nowwhoutthink]
    #11207191 - 10/08/09 01:31 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I was thinking of buying a bunch of 5 gallong grow bags to grow them in outdors.


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Re: starting some poppies [Re: OverdoseLiving]
    #11207241 - 10/08/09 01:41 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

why not man...nothing to lose expect maybe a few seeds...

even get a lil sap from em haha (cali poppies that is)


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