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Help! Our pedro looks bad...
    #11164350 - 10/01/09 04:59 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

So we have two pedro cactus'. One is like 8 inchs tall and looks alright. We have this other one that has developed some bad spots. What can we do to save it? Oh also hello to the forum!! Big fans!!



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Re: Help! Our pedro looks bad... [Re: Knowl3dge]
    #11164365 - 10/01/09 05:02 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

the one on the right looks like a bridgesii


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Re: Help! Our pedro looks bad... [Re: jds]
    #11164377 - 10/01/09 05:05 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I believe it is. The pictures are of the same subject. Got it on trade from the marketplace. It was looking good up until like a week or so ago. Could it be something as simple as water?? Or temp? We live in the midwest where it is getting cooler by the day.


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Re: Help! Our pedro looks bad... [Re: Knowl3dge]
    #11164659 - 10/01/09 05:53 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

its not temps related and im pretty sure its not water related.


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Re: Help! Our pedro looks bad... [Re: Big L]
    #11164677 - 10/01/09 05:55 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Light then maybe?


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Re: Help! Our pedro looks bad... [Re: Knowl3dge]
    #11164694 - 10/01/09 05:58 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I don't think its anything environment related, especially because the new growth looks so healthy, and you say the other cactus is fine.


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Re: Help! Our pedro looks bad... [Re: Knowl3dge]
    #11164696 - 10/01/09 05:58 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

they are both bridgesii not pachs. :sorry: if that is what you were looking for but those ain't it.

its etiolated and needs more light. that is why it is thinning. just get it out in the sun and it should start fattening up.


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Re: Help! Our pedro looks bad... [Re: ferrel_human]
    #11164740 - 10/01/09 06:06 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

:facepalm:
he already said they are pictures of the same cactus, and its not the very small amount of etiolated growth he's worried about.
I think he's worried about all the white shit.


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Re: Help! Our pedro looks bad... [Re: Big L]
    #11164760 - 10/01/09 06:09 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Can you describe the texture of the effected area as well as how long this took to develop?
It's hard to tell from the pics, but it looks fungi-related to me. If I were you I would stop watering it for a while.


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Re: Help! Our pedro looks bad... [Re: Big L]
    #11164784 - 10/01/09 06:12 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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Big L said:
:facepalm:
he already said they are pictures of the same cactus, and its not the very small amount of etiolated growth he's worried about.
I think he's worried about all the white shit.




well that just looks like scarring to me. try scraping it off or if he is that worried about it, cut it right above the white shit and see if the bottom pups. then just root the top part.


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Re: Help! Our pedro looks bad... [Re: Mankey]
    #11164813 - 10/01/09 06:17 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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Can you describe the texture of the effected area as well as how long this took to develop?
It's hard to tell from the pics, but it looks fungi-related to me. If I were you I would stop watering it for a while.




That's what I am kind of leaning towards. It kind of looks like powdery mildew, but i've never seen that on cacti before. :shrug:


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Re: Help! Our pedro looks bad... [Re: ferrel_human]
    #11164864 - 10/01/09 06:24 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah. It happens, but it definitely isn't as common as, say root rot. It's strange to me that it would develop in the middle section of the plant. It just doesn't seem like scarring is something someone wouldn't be able to conclude, because they would know if their cactus was injured previously.

I say he waters once more with fungicide and ceases watering the soil for a while, but mists the section in question with fungicide to see what happens. :shrug:


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Re: Help! Our pedro looks bad... [Re: Mankey]
    #11164886 - 10/01/09 06:27 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I agree completely. Plus if you are in the same part of the Midwest as I am, then you should start watering your cacti significantly less to help ease them into dormancy anyway.


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Re: Help! Our pedro looks bad... [Re: Big L]
    #11164910 - 10/01/09 06:30 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Word. Thanks for the reminder. I need to take mine out from under the lights today.


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Re: Help! Our pedro looks bad... [Re: Mankey]
    #11165608 - 10/01/09 08:48 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Ok. So I need to talk to my girl and see how often she waters. Other than that the area effected still has a stiff feel like the normal area on the skin. The other one we have isn't effected yet. So should I scrape it off and hope for the best, spray and water with a fungicide, or cut and reroot, and hope for pups?

This is 2 pics the first is the effected area again, the other is the smaller pedro that we have.



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Re: Help! Our pedro looks bad... [Re: Mankey]
    #11165630 - 10/01/09 08:53 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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I say he waters once more with fungicide and ceases watering the soil for a while, but mists the section in question with fungicide to see what happens. :shrug:



this, no reason to cut it.


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Re: Help! Our pedro looks bad... [Re: Knowl3dge]
    #11165652 - 10/01/09 08:58 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I've only ever seen damage like that from two causes, the first being spider mites sucking the juices out of the plant, but I dont think that's the case here.

The second reason was due to some type of infection setting in, but I have only ever seen this occur when a plant is grown in less than favorable conditions indoors.. A combination of too little light, too little/too much water, getting water on the skin during the cold, etc are some of the things that can cause this to begin, In my experience.

I dont think a cut is necessary in this case, if you improve the conditions of the plant and maybe try a fungicide, the problem should fix itself. Eventually the tissue will form a nice hard callous and will blend in well enough. I would not cut it, If you do, you're exposing inner flesh to bad conditions (which is how this set in) and running the risk of that tissue getting infected as well. Not to mention that you'd be rooting an etiolated tip.

In short, I suggest you:

Improve conditions (Heat, light, watering cycle)
Use a fungicide
Improve ventilation
Watch it closely.

Do all four and it should recover just fine.

Also, if im mistaken about it being in bad conditions, forgive me, but I had the same thing happen last year to quite a few plants that were growing indoors and its the only explanation I can offer.

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Re: Help! Our pedro looks bad... [Re: Methadone]
    #11169148 - 10/02/09 12:49 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Try Daconil fungicide.


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