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OfflineXtraLame
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Question: History repeats itself
    #11162572 - 10/01/09 08:35 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Ok, i'll admit, I'm a tipsy at the moment. Alcohol seems to be the only drug that makes drive my thoughts deeper than usual.

So here's the question which for the life of me I could never answer: Why does history repeat itself? There's the old age saying that president bush made famous: If you get fooled once, you can't get fooled again?


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Re: Question: History repeats itself [Re: XtraLame]
    #11162611 - 10/01/09 08:48 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

because life is like a fractal, over history, we grow, but the basic shape that is us stays the same


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Re: Question: History repeats itself [Re: XtraLame]
    #11162843 - 10/01/09 09:57 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

If we do something & it brings happyness, we do it again, eventually it doesnt bring happyness anymore, we dont know any better so keep doing it anyway

We repeat & repeat until we are forced to change, so everything repeats but everything also changes

This is why its best to not be attached to anything



Awareness never changes



:peace:


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Re: Question: History repeats itself [Re: Chronic7]
    #11162919 - 10/01/09 10:11 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

*happiness man, happiness


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Re: Question: History repeats itself [Re: Smitington]
    #11163173 - 10/01/09 11:01 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Most shit tends to travel in waves, just seems to be the way things are. I think it's that not much has inherently changed in human life for a couple thousand years now. Motives, pleasures, questions, mistakes, etc are still mostly the same. Newness will still come into existence but by the same old process. On a graph of social events/trends it would look repetitive, maybe not uniformly but repetitive in some sense.

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Re: Question: History repeats itself [Re: XtraLame]
    #11163737 - 10/01/09 12:55 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

What do you mean when you say that history repeats itself?

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Re: Question: History repeats itself [Re: Kukaracha]
    #11163769 - 10/01/09 12:59 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Kukaracha said:
What do you mean when you say that history repeats itself?




you know exactly what he means.

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Re: Question: History repeats itself [Re: XtraLame]
    #11164132 - 10/01/09 02:09 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

"History doesn't repeat itself...but it rhymes." -- Mark Twain


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Re: Question: History repeats itself [Re: XtraLame] * 1
    #11164437 - 10/01/09 03:16 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

XtraLame said:
Ok, i'll admit, I'm a tipsy at the moment. Alcohol seems to be the only drug that makes drive my thoughts deeper than usual.

So here's the question which for the life of me I could never answer: Why does history repeat itself? There's the old age saying that president bush made famous: If you get fooled once, you can't get fooled again?





History repeats itself because the human emotional lanscape has not changed at all in thousands of years.

or as Mr. Natural sez, "twas ever thus"


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The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Question: History repeats itself [Re: Icelander]
    #11175723 - 10/03/09 03:29 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Icelander said:
History repeats itself because the human emotional lanscape has not changed at all in thousands of years.

or as Mr. Natural sez, "twas ever thus"




"Good old nostradamus, he knew the whole damn time... As long as there's an east from west someone there will be fi-ighting
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Re: Question: History repeats itself [Re: elfamale]
    #11177475 - 10/03/09 09:10 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

People get greedy, want more power, than fall. There is a rise and a fall to everything.


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People say that what we're all seeking is a meaning for life. I don't
think that's what we're really seeking. I think what we're seeking is an
experience of being alive, so that our life experiences on the purely
physical plane will have resonances within our own innermost being and
reality, so we can actually feel the rapture of being alive.:flowerchild:

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Re: Question: History repeats itself [Re: XtraLame]
    #11177593 - 10/03/09 09:26 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Just out of curiosity, what instances would point to of history repeating itself?  Not that I necessarily disagree, but I often hear this claim without substantiation.


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OfflineTheBalance
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Re: Question: History repeats itself [Re: Silversoul]
    #11178170 - 10/03/09 11:27 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

-Why does history repeat itself?

'Cause some crafty types tossed a feedback loop over the sacred spiral.
A pyramid over the tree.  Dreadful.:frown:

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Re: Question: History repeats itself [Re: TheBalance]
    #11230000 - 10/11/09 10:20 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

an example of history repeating itself:

throughout the history of mankind, civilizations can build up meaning economically, militarily, population, etc..,
they all hit a peak and crash or get taken over,

think of the mayans, or the romans, sure technology has changed but i dont think human nature has... it is after all a small minority of people that truly run a civilization

not predicting anything here but looks like the US is falling in their footsteps,

Another interesting thing from a quick google search here

Also take a look at what Mckenna has to say bout timewave zero, its got a lot to do with history repeating itself in a way.

its pretty weird to think about and eerily makes sense


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Re: Question: History repeats itself [Re: Gratefulgroove]
    #11230192 - 10/11/09 10:46 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Another example that happens time and time again within markets in an economy: 

it all has to do with human nature

Technical analysts believe that investors collectively repeat the behavior of the investors that preceded them. "Everyone wants in on the next Microsoft," "If this stock ever gets to $50 again, I will buy it," "This company's technology will revolutionize its industry, therefore this stock will skyrocket" – these are all examples of investor sentiment repeating itself. To a technician, the emotions in the market may be irrational, but they exist. Because investor behavior repeats itself so often, technicians believe that recognizable (and predictable) price patterns will develop on a chart.


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Re: Question: History repeats itself [Re: Gratefulgroove]
    #11231459 - 10/12/09 04:56 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

History repeats itself, quite simply, because
people
are and always have been
people.

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Re: Question: History repeats itself [Re: Gratefulgroove] * 1
    #11232175 - 10/12/09 10:13 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Gratefulgroove said:
an example of history repeating itself:

throughout the history of mankind, civilizations can build up meaning economically, militarily, population, etc..,
they all hit a peak and crash or get taken over,

think of the mayans, or the romans, sure technology has changed but i dont think human nature has... it is after all a small minority of people that truly run a civilization

not predicting anything here but looks like the US is falling in their footsteps,

Another interesting thing from a quick google search here

Also take a look at what Mckenna has to say bout timewave zero, its got a lot to do with history repeating itself in a way.

its pretty weird to think about and eerily makes sense



I can sort of see where you're going with this, but I don't see these cycles as simply going back and forth.  I see it as more of a dialectical progression.  The cycles build on another, and learning takes place.


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InvisibleChronic7
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Re: Question: History repeats itself [Re: XtraLame]
    #11233648 - 10/12/09 02:44 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

"Repeating the same action over & over while expecting different result is the definition of Insanity"

Einstein

:peace:


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