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Offlinefantastic dan
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Baby loph
    #11162390 - 10/01/09 09:16 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)







My second attempt at growing lophs from seed. This one is about 2 months old. I brought 10 seeds and it was the only one to germinate. Does it look ok? I have it under a 40w reptile lamp in a humidified chamber.


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Re: Baby loph [Re: fantastic dan]
    #11162408 - 10/01/09 09:26 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

O-V-E-R K-I-L-L

I cant say for certain but i am betting its too wet and hot in there.  40w is low, but in a wet confined space that can get hot.  you would be better sticking the pot in a old clear bread bag and stick it under a cfl unless your house is real cold.
even next to a window is ok so long as it doesnt get cold in its drafts.


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Re: Baby loph [Re: fantastic dan]
    #11162409 - 10/01/09 09:26 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

looks like an ok setup. I'm not sure a reptile light. might not be the best option for a couple reasons.
I dont think they put out the right spectrum, but more importantly it looks like its running hot. if the temp is 86 with the lid off, then its probably 10 degrees F hotter with the lid on.

What happened last time you tried to grow from seed?


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Re: Baby loph [Re: Big L]
    #11162419 - 10/01/09 09:31 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

What's a loph?


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Re: Baby loph [Re: Dango_Bill]
    #11162422 - 10/01/09 09:34 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

its a measurement of bread  :rimshot:


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Re: Baby loph [Re: Dango_Bill]
    #11162440 - 10/01/09 09:42 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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Dango_Bill said:
What's a loph?




Lophophora, a genus of cacti specifically peyotes.


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Re: Baby loph [Re: Big L]
    #11163122 - 10/01/09 12:53 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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its a measurement of bread  :rimshot:




:ilold:


in all seriousness, you might want to just have it next to a windowsill. like kada said it might get might steamy there and in the wild i'm sure they don't get the pampering that we like to give our sacreds. a plastic bag with diffuse light is often enough. just:2cents:


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Re: Baby loph [Re: ferrel_human]
    #11166002 - 10/01/09 10:17 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

It actually doesn't get that hot. I also have a heat mat under it now and even on warm days it doesn't get over 32c. Is the high humidity a problem? I thought they needed humidity when they're young?
Also, how long usually before they are safe to grow on a windowsill?

Last time they turned brown and died within a month. I think they died from a lack of light. This one looks much happier. Its a shame only one sprouted.


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Re: Baby loph [Re: fantastic dan]
    #11166330 - 10/01/09 11:16 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I keep mine at about 29c and they do wonderful.


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Re: Baby loph [Re: fantastic dan]
    #11167162 - 10/02/09 01:16 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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Also, how long usually before they are safe to grow on a windowsill?





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Re: Baby loph [Re: danielx]
    #11168420 - 10/02/09 08:51 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

window sills are ok, but can be dangerous cause some may get super hot, and others may get super cold....depends on your situation.....i couldnt where i lived in canada cause they would freeze...but here in the tropics they work a charm!

32 is fine, i figured it would have been hotter with a light inside that and a heat mat, but you are there and can check...so you know best :smile:

if your others went brown (and its not light related) its probably rot related, and i would guess that is too much water in your setup.

really humid is good.  but remember they dont want wet feet still, slightly moist with moist *air* is ideal.  in that setup i would *think* condensation would make the soil rather wet.  you will need to look at that yourself and check. 

what i tend to do is mix my soils wet.  and squeeze/let drain any excess moisture.  i put that in the pots and put in a bag and add no more water, that is 99% of the time enough and not too much.

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I keep mine at about 29c and they do wonderful.




me too, most of the time...its a good temp.  mine ranges a bit though from 25-35.


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Re: Baby loph [Re: kadakuda]
    #11169319 - 10/02/09 01:23 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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window sills are ok, but can be dangerous cause some may get super hot, and others may get super cold....depends on your situation.....i couldnt where i lived in canada cause they would freeze...but here in the tropics they work a charm!

32 is fine, i figured it would have been hotter with a light inside that and a heat mat, but you are there and can check...so you know best :smile:

if your others went brown (and its not light related) its probably rot related, and i would guess that is too much water in your setup.

really humid is good.  but remember they dont want wet feet still, slightly moist with moist *air* is ideal.  in that setup i would *think* condensation would make the soil rather wet.  you will need to look at that yourself and check. 

what i tend to do is mix my soils wet.  and squeeze/let drain any excess moisture.  i put that in the pots and put in a bag and add no more water, that is 99% of the time enough and not too much.

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I keep mine at about 29c and they do wonderful.




me too, most of the time...its a good temp.  mine ranges a bit though from 25-35.




At the moment I think i'll leave it in there. It gets pretty cold in my house at night and its safe from my cat. 

I usually have to water it every 2 days or so. There's actually a little fan behind the light bulb and it blows warm air down onto it so the sand does dry out fairly quickly. 

Now that you mentioned it, it probably was the soil mix that killed them last time. I just used some sand and dirt out of the garden.


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Re: Baby loph [Re: fantastic dan]
    #11171697 - 10/02/09 09:51 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I have a cup with commercial mixed cacti seed that I was filled with dirt and sand from the ground, they're doing surprisingly well :lol:


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