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ack my back!!
    #1116202 - 12/06/02 03:08 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

had my first *real* shroom trip 3 days ago, consumed 3.5 Hawaiians.  The trip was GREAT saw things i can't explain, very beautiful.  Saw the clouds in 3 separate layers all moving in circles in diff directions..def. one of the most beautiful things i have ever seen. Also seen countless other things i can't begin to describe..anyways here's my question.  After coming down i had lots of pain though out my back muscles.  I'm sure this is from me being tensed up, does anyone else have this problem? Has anyone tried using muscle relaxers during or after the trip to help with this pain.  It was quite worse than the pains I've had from harder acid trips.  Any input and suggestions are much appreciated :laugh:. thanks in advance.

oh and also another problem i have when tripping is this feeling like i have to burp and can't get it up, i think this is sometimes described as 'acid stomach' i had this when shrooming as well, and a couple of times burped up foam??? this seems really weird maybe its a chemical reaction, i really don't know. any information or experience with this would also be nice.


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Re: ack my back!! [Re: sevens]
    #1116556 - 12/06/02 10:41 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Ya man??
Have had some back pains before as well as stomack probs.
Just eat an youll feel better, it works for me anyway? PEACE :tongue: 


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Re: ack my back!! [Re: sevens]
    #1116619 - 12/06/02 11:13 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Maybe you've got some health problems. If you've got a nice doctor you might want to explain it all to him.

What position are you in when you are tripping? How do you take the shrooms? What other drugs do you normally do (smoke, drink)?


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Re: ack my back!! [Re: bluelou]
    #1116626 - 12/06/02 11:14 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for the suggestion! i shall try this when and if this dream reoccurs :laugh:.


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Re: ack my back!! [Re: Mr Wobblehead]
    #1116638 - 12/06/02 11:20 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I have no health problems that i am aware of. From what i've read in another post maybe i wasn't hydrated enough, but i pissed a few times during the trip... Unfortunately i have no professional to consult about this. At first i lied down and closed my eyes for the CEVs, I also took a walk down a trail in the woods and sat around as well. Shrooms were chewed straight (dried) and washed down with some OJ. I only smoke weed about 3 days a week, and drink about once, twice or not at all.

now that i think of it i do get indigestion sometimes..maybe grinding them and capsuling might aid in digestion?


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Re: ack my back!! [Re: sevens]
    #1116909 - 12/06/02 12:58 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I'm certainly not a doctor, but it is possible that you might have something wrong with your stomach, and that discomfort is causing your back to spasm, or you're holding yourself twisted slightly because of that discomfort, again causing your back to end up in spasm.

Try doing them without the orange juice as the acid might not be helping. Maybe try just straight shroom tea next time and see how that goes, and start taking a good multi vitamin and mineral.

You never said if you do caffeine or not. Caffeine is really bad for tension and can create many physical problems involving muscle spasm. Use raspberry leaf tea instead, this is an anti spasmodic and should help.

I can't beleive that it's the tripping itself, as i've done so many trips and never had any physical problems from them. From my own experiences, the discomfort and pains felt when tripping have been due to other factors, like exhaustion, diet, tobacco, etc.

Next time you trip, you might try lying flat on your back on your bed through the whole trip with quiet ambient music on in total darkness, and focus your mind into the area where you feel the discomfort comes from. Try not to bring it on or judge it, just feel it and accept it for what it is and see where that leads your thoughts and feelings. And trust those thoughts and feelings.

It sucks that someone isn't feeling good from shrooms, and i really hope you can get it sorted.


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Re: ack my back!! [Re: Mr Wobblehead]
    #1118381 - 12/06/02 09:22 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

cool, great suggestions man!  I really need to get on a good multi vitamin, i think that my sometimes hectic lifestyle causes me to eat whatever and whenever i get the chance.  As far as caffeine i'm not a addict like most people. i drink about a 12 oz glass of Pepsi maybe every two days. Also my body was completely numb it felt like during the trip.  I noticed this mostly as i was coming down and could start to feel my hands more, and noticed the slight back pain coming on.  I def. could have been in some weird positions standing staring at things as i was in awe almost the whole time.  Next time i will try and focus on how i am treating my back, as well as spend more time laying down and let u know how it goes.  The raspberry tea i shall also try, and maybe some cocoa shrooms in the future :smile:. thanks again for all the suggestions!  :grin:


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Re: ack my back!! [Re: sevens]
    #1118469 - 12/06/02 10:15 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Yeha, I used to always get these involuntary muscle contractions long before I smoked weed or did any other drug. There not so bad now. Anyways I find some weed helps out. ANd I also have a hot bath a couple times a week before I go to bed. I know it may sound girly or whatever, but some espom salts really work. I remember someone saying that tripping causes back aches, pretty much the same type of person who says it makes your brain bleed and there is styrichinine in lsd, lol. I know it's bullshit but what I think it is is that, when your tripping your reality is altered. You don't pay attention to things like you normally do. You could be bending backwards, looking at the stars all night straining your back and not even noticing it. That's what I tihnk happens.


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Re: ack my back!! [Re: sevens]
    #1118631 - 12/06/02 11:37 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Ahh yes, the clouds!

On I think it was maybe my 3rd trip, I too had an amazing experience watching the clouds. Beautiful blue sky, and beautiful clouds. Moving in layers, it seemed like they were flowing over a dome of glass. I saw visions of a colorful buddha floating in the clouds. The #1 experience of my life.


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