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 bmarley3434
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 Gym or Jack 
#11161057 - 09/30/09 11:01 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Habitat:
was growing on a stump, orange white colored gills.
stem has a ring.
mushroom was very waterlogged.
didnt see much bruising
any guesses would be helpful. thanks!
  
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 MycOhunter
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Those are gyms, you can even see blue staining in the first pic.
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Mr. Mushrooms
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Notajack. The distinct fibrillose zone is covered with rusty-brown/orange spores. I'd call that Gymnopilus spectabilis. Should taste bitter, even if water-logged.
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IcelandicSojourn
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I say old Gymnopilus Spectabilis. Some bluing on the far right mushroom's stem? I've taken many pics where it seems there's bluing but I saw none when looking at the shrooms. Don't know if that's the case here. My pics aren't the best.
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Edited by IcelandicSojourn (09/30/09 11:06 PM)
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MycOhunter
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IcelandicSojourn said:
I say old Gymnopilus Spectabilis. Some bluing on the far right mushroom's stem? I've taken many pics where it seems there's bluing but I saw none when looking at the pics. Don't know if that's the case here. My pics aren't the best.
Yes bluing on the specimen on the right of the first pic, on the stipe.
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IcelandicSojourn
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Haha, you quoted me before the edit. Anyway, nice find marley  Hopefully you find some fresh'uns.
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bmarley3434
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Shit. finally found some. i totally overlooked the blue, its so slight. are gyms known to return to the same spot? im thinking they might be too waterlogged.
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MycOhunter
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bmarley3434 said:
Shit. finally found some. i totally overlooked the blue, its so slight. are gyms known to return to the same spot? im thinking they might be too waterlogged.
Yes they will, I have seen some Gym. luteus patches fruit for years.
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cyanophilus
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thats not bluing.
and its definitely not the color gymns would bruise anyways.
they do however looks like G. spectabilis to me.
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Mr. Mushrooms
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I'd call the bluing confirmation bias. I see the "stain" too, but it really isn't "blue." I've picked these for a few years now and only found one blue-staining G. spectabilis. Most BLG's that are active have some greenish tones from time to time. Blue? Hardly ever.
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MycOhunter
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cyanophilus said:
thats not bluing.
and its definitely not the color gymns would bruise anyways.
they do however looks like G. spectabilis to me.
take a look at the pictures shroomydan has in the active mushroom section of the site, some of the gyms he found are incredibly blue, some are green.
I have seen gyms blue just like psilocybes before, ill see if I can find the pics.
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IcelandicSojourn
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I had my doubts; that's why I expressed the tendency of photos to make it easier to "imagine" bluing. I have seen those pics too though.
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Mr. Mushrooms
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Quote:
MycOhunter said:
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cyanophilus said:
thats not bluing.
and its definitely not the color gymns would bruise anyways.
they do however looks like G. spectabilis to me.
take a look at the pictures shroomydan has in the active mushroom section of the site, some of the gyms he found are incredibly blue, some are green.
I have seen gyms blue just like psilocybes before, ill see if I can find the pics.
Here are Dan's photos:
http://www.shroomery.org/9469/Gymnopilus-spectabilis
As you can see, bluing is hardly ever found. Can it happen? Oh, beyond a doubt. I picked a cluster in '92 that weighed 5 pounds. It was growing in a yard off deeply buried roots. The stump had been ground up and the lawn was flat. When I plucked the cluster and took it home, the entire place where it was snapped off bruised a DEEP, indigo blue. That was the only time I have seen that in 20 years.
I think the "BLG's" (*edit bruising blue) in Dan's page are actually luteus. A species that is much more susceptible to blue staining than BLG's.
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Edited by Mr. Mushrooms (09/30/09 11:30 PM)
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Mr. Mushrooms
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MycOhunter said:
So there is no blue in any of these?
http://www.shroomery.org/9469/Gymnopilus-spectabilis
Now compare them to the thousands of BLG photos found across the web. That's exactly why I said hardly and exactly why Dan posted those photos. They are unique.
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IcelandicSojourn
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As you can see, bluing is hardly ever found. Can it happen? Oh, beyond a doubt. I picked a cluster in '92 that weighed 5 pounds. It was growing in a yard off deeply buried roots. The stump had been ground up and the lawn was flat. When I plucked the cluster and took it home, the entire place where it was snapped off bruised a DEEP, indigo blue. That was the only time I have seen that in 20 years.
Amazing.
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I think the "BLG's" in Dan's page are actually luteus. A species that is much more susceptible to blue staining than BLG's.
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DannyGlick
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I think the "BLG's" (*edit bruising blue) in Dan's page are actually luteus. A species that is much more susceptible to blue staining than BLG's.
Yeah G. luteus.
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