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Offlinebmarley3434
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Gym or Jack
    #11161057 - 10/01/09 01:01 AM (8 years, 18 days ago)

Habitat:
was growing on a stump, orange white colored gills.

stem has a ring.

mushroom was very waterlogged.

didnt see much bruising

any guesses would be helpful. thanks!



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Re: Gym or Jack [Re: bmarley3434]
    #11161084 - 10/01/09 01:03 AM (8 years, 18 days ago)

Those are gyms, you can even see blue staining in the first pic.


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Re: Gym or Jack [Re: bmarley3434]
    #11161092 - 10/01/09 01:04 AM (8 years, 18 days ago)

Notajack.  The distinct fibrillose zone is covered with rusty-brown/orange spores.  I'd call that Gymnopilus spectabilis.  Should taste bitter, even if water-logged.


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Re: Gym or Jack [Re: bmarley3434]
    #11161108 - 10/01/09 01:06 AM (8 years, 18 days ago)

I say old Gymnopilus Spectabilis.  Some bluing on the far right mushroom's stem?  I've taken many pics where it seems there's bluing but I saw none when looking at the shrooms.  Don't know if that's the case here.  My pics aren't the best.


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Re: Gym or Jack [Re: IcelandicSojourn]
    #11161112 - 10/01/09 01:07 AM (8 years, 18 days ago)

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I say old Gymnopilus Spectabilis.  Some bluing on the far right mushroom's stem?  I've taken many pics where it seems there's bluing but I saw none when looking at the pics.  Don't know if that's the case here.  My pics aren't the best.


Yes bluing on the specimen on the right of the first pic, on the stipe.


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Re: Gym or Jack [Re: MycOhunter]
    #11161128 - 10/01/09 01:10 AM (8 years, 18 days ago)

Haha, you quoted me before the edit.  Anyway, nice find marley :thumbup: Hopefully you find some fresh'uns.


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Re: Gym or Jack [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #11161130 - 10/01/09 01:11 AM (8 years, 18 days ago)

Shit. finally found some. i totally overlooked the blue, its so slight. are gyms known to return to the same spot? im thinking they might be too waterlogged.


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Re: Gym or Jack [Re: bmarley3434]
    #11161139 - 10/01/09 01:12 AM (8 years, 18 days ago)

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Shit. finally found some. i totally overlooked the blue, its so slight. are gyms known to return to the same spot? im thinking they might be too waterlogged.


Yes they will, I have seen some Gym. luteus patches fruit for years.


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Re: Gym or Jack [Re: MycOhunter]
    #11161146 - 10/01/09 01:12 AM (8 years, 18 days ago)

thats not bluing.
and its definitely not the color gymns would bruise anyways.

they do however looks like G. spectabilis to me.


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Re: Gym or Jack [Re: IcelandicSojourn]
    #11161149 - 10/01/09 01:13 AM (8 years, 18 days ago)

I'd call the bluing confirmation bias.  I see the "stain" too, but it really isn't "blue."  I've picked these for a few years now and only found one blue-staining G. spectabilis. Most BLG's that are active have some greenish tones from time to time.  Blue? Hardly ever.


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Re: Gym or Jack [Re: cyanophilus]
    #11161160 - 10/01/09 01:14 AM (8 years, 18 days ago)

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thats not bluing.
and its definitely not the color gymns would bruise anyways.

they do however looks like G. spectabilis to me.


take a look at the pictures shroomydan has in the active mushroom section of the site, some of the gyms he found are incredibly blue, some are green.

I have seen gyms blue just like psilocybes before, ill see if I can find the pics.


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Re: Gym or Jack [Re: MycOhunter]
    #11161177 - 10/01/09 01:16 AM (8 years, 18 days ago)

I had my doubts; that's why I expressed the tendency of photos to make it easier to "imagine" bluing.  I have seen those pics too though.


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Re: Gym or Jack [Re: MycOhunter]
    #11161178 - 10/01/09 01:17 AM (8 years, 18 days ago)

So there is no blue in any of these?

http://www.shroomery.org/9469/Gymnopilus-spectabilis


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Re: Gym or Jack [Re: MycOhunter]
    #11161206 - 10/01/09 01:23 AM (8 years, 18 days ago)

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cyanophilus said:
thats not bluing.
and its definitely not the color gymns would bruise anyways.

they do however looks like G. spectabilis to me.


take a look at the pictures shroomydan has in the active mushroom section of the site, some of the gyms he found are incredibly blue, some are green.

I have seen gyms blue just like psilocybes before, ill see if I can find the pics.




Here are Dan's photos:

http://www.shroomery.org/9469/Gymnopilus-spectabilis

As you can see, bluing is hardly ever found.  Can it happen?  Oh, beyond a doubt.  I picked a cluster in '92 that weighed 5 pounds.  It was growing in a yard off deeply buried roots.  The stump had been ground up and the lawn was flat.  When I plucked the cluster and took it home, the entire place where it was snapped off bruised a DEEP, indigo blue.  That was the only time I have seen that in 20 years.

I think the "BLG's" (*edit bruising blue) in Dan's page are actually luteus.  A species that is much more susceptible to blue staining than BLG's.


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Re: Gym or Jack [Re: MycOhunter]
    #11161220 - 10/01/09 01:25 AM (8 years, 18 days ago)

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So there is no blue in any of these?

http://www.shroomery.org/9469/Gymnopilus-spectabilis





Now compare them to the thousands of BLG photos found across the web.  That's exactly why I said hardly and exactly why Dan posted those photos.  They are unique.


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Re: Gym or Jack [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #11161233 - 10/01/09 01:27 AM (8 years, 18 days ago)

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As you can see, bluing is hardly ever found.  Can it happen?  Oh, beyond a doubt.  I picked a cluster in '92 that weighed 5 pounds.  It was growing in a yard off deeply buried roots.  The stump had been ground up and the lawn was flat.  When I plucked the cluster and took it home, the entire place where it was snapped off bruised a DEEP, indigo blue.  That was the only time I have seen that in 20 years.




Amazing.

Quote:

I think the "BLG's" in Dan's page are actually luteus.  A species that is much more susceptible to blue staining than BLG's.




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Re: Gym or Jack [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #11161360 - 10/01/09 01:50 AM (8 years, 18 days ago)

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I think the "BLG's" (*edit bruising blue) in Dan's page are actually luteus.  A species that is much more susceptible to blue staining than BLG's.




Yeah G. luteus.


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