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first attempt at growing
    #11159870 - 09/30/09 08:11 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I am trying to do BRF cakes with Cubensis EQ.

I went to over 20 stores in the past two days and no one has 1/2 pint wide mouth, so I just got the reg 1/2 pint jars. Top still seems wider that the bottom but taller and skinnier, would these be OK?

Anyway, I think I may have screwed up already and I was so clean about everything. I made the mix, loaded 10 jars, wiped down inside edge, micropore tape over the holes. loaded them in the steamer pot and started boiling 10min. Thats when I remembered i forgot to cover each jar with foil.

I stopped it down, opened the steamer pot and tape looked fine and still dry and sticking to holes. I put the foil over them all, but I am worried about that, It did look like there was slight moisture in the jar. would that just be from the water I put in the verm flower mix?

Should I start over?

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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: Mr Fantasy]
    #11159889 - 09/30/09 08:14 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

they will have to do but you dont have to have 1/2 pint i use all sizes


foil is a must or the water content will be mesed up.

start over is up to you if it is to wet they will colonize slow if at all and would be at hier risk to contams because the dry verm layer may be wet


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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: feelfunny]
    #11159970 - 09/30/09 08:26 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I wouldn't start over. I had a jar fall onto it's side when unloading from the pot once. The top got wet (when I took the foil off the tape was soaked) and it ended up colonizing fine. I just marked that jar and kept an eye on it, it was colonized about 2-3 days later than the others but no biggie besides that.


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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: kingsmountainview]
    #11160079 - 09/30/09 08:45 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

damn, I was replying to the completely wrong thread, lol.

I don't think much water if any got in, the tape was still dry. I think most of the moisture I saw was from the water in the mix. They were only steaming 15-20 min. I foiled them and started the steam bath over.

But do you think it would be best to clear out the top verm, wipe down the inside, and start over from there. Or do you think it will be ok?

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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: Mr Fantasy]
    #11160146 - 09/30/09 08:56 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Damn, Well I think i am starting over, I don't want to chance any contaminations.

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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: Mr Fantasy]
    #11160159 - 09/30/09 08:58 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I agree. No need to start over. What people need to realize is that these teks are more like recipes than "DO THIS OR ELSE YOU WILL FAIL".

I've made several different variations to the PF tek and I'm doing quite well. No flow hood. No glovebox.

I've tried 2 holes vs 4, greater cc's/less cc's, higher temps/lower temps. So far I've had great results by putting the tupperware box that houses the jars outside during the day where the temps reach 80 degrees, then cool them off by bringing them indoors under the ac.

Right now I'm testing out a 3 hole design that are all in a row. I'm hoping I will be able to speed the colonization of the center.

Some of my jars have the microtape, others don't. I don't think it really makes a difference. As long as you have that top layer of verm and you have the correct ratio of water/verm/BRF. I also spray lysol over the box before, during, and after I open it.

I steamed the SHIT out of my jars too to make sure I killed everything. Steamed them for a good 1.5 - 2 hours.

You can always buy the mason jars online. They're about $10-$15 more expensive (due to shipping), but it's at least an option.

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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: feelfunny]
    #11160168 - 09/30/09 09:00 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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they will have to do but you dont have to have 1/2 pint i use all sizes






the ones i am using look like the ones on the right.

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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: Mr Fantasy]
    #11163755 - 10/01/09 12:58 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

So I just finished inoculating the jars, but one thing i noticed is that there is rust forming around the holes in the lids. Is this normal? I don't see how you can avoid it with metal lids and steaming them, but I just want to make sure. Here is a picture of the tops, you can see the rust color around the holes.



Also should I be placing the tape back over the holes after the inoculation?

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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: Mr Fantasy]
    #11163780 - 10/01/09 01:01 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

looks nice and clean to me

yeh keep the tape over the holes
either replace it or put another piece over the holes


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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: SillyBilly]
    #11163807 - 10/01/09 01:05 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

good, thats what i did. I put tape back over while still in the glove box.

Hope to have some white pics to post in about a week.

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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: Mr Fantasy]
    #11163970 - 10/01/09 01:34 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Those are the same jars I used for my first grow... they seem to be the only kind of that size that most stores stock. Incidentally I also used Ecuador... 3M micropore tape... our first grows are quite similar in fact :grin: Did you order from Sporeworks as well?

Anyways, there is no problem with using the tall jars, you might get a slowdown of colonization as the mycelium gets towards the bottom of the jar but it's not a huge issue. I'm not sure whether it's an issue with the jar shape or what, but I also have consistent trouble with hyphal knots/in vitro pins forming before 100% colonization (despite no contamination or anything like that.) So keep an eye out for that.

You shouldn't have trouble getting the cakes out of those jars. The only time I ever had trouble was when I left one of my in vitro pinning jars to colonize to 100% and sit for a little while (to see if it might affect yield) - the in vitro pins got pretty big, and I ended up spending about two hours attempting to slam/pry/pull the cake out of the jar. I got it out mostly in one piece, but it was a hugely frustrating task. And most of the pins got so bruised that they just ended up aborting :mad: I did get some nice big mushrooms though!

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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: TryptamineDream]
    #11164169 - 10/01/09 02:18 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

OP do you have an Ace Hardware? You can order them off there website
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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: TryptamineDream]
    #11164364 - 10/01/09 03:02 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Those are the same jars I used for my first grow... they seem to be the only kind of that size that most stores stock. Incidentally I also used Ecuador... 3M micropore tape... our first grows are quite similar in fact :grin: Did you order from Sporeworks as well?

Anyways, there is no problem with using the tall jars, you might get a slowdown of colonization as the mycelium gets towards the bottom of the jar but it's not a huge issue. I'm not sure whether it's an issue with the jar shape or what, but I also have consistent trouble with hyphal knots/in vitro pins forming before 100% colonization (despite no contamination or anything like that.) So keep an eye out for that.

You shouldn't have trouble getting the cakes out of those jars. The only time I ever had trouble was when I left one of my in vitro pinning jars to colonize to 100% and sit for a little while (to see if it might affect yield) - the in vitro pins got pretty big, and I ended up spending about two hours attempting to slam/pry/pull the cake out of the jar. I got it out mostly in one piece, but it was a hugely frustrating task. And most of the pins got so bruised that they just ended up aborting :mad: I did get some nice big mushrooms though!




Thanks for the info, thats funny I did get them from Sporeworks, lol.
I will keep an eye open for the pins.

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OP do you have an Ace Hardware? You can order them off there website
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yes I do, it was one of the first places I checked, Thanks for the info on the free shipping, I will order a couple cases now.

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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: Mr Fantasy]
    #11165439 - 10/01/09 06:09 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Also should I be placing the tape back over the holes after the inoculation?




It makes no difference. I had just mentioned that the post above yours. I have jars with and without and they're fine. I think I personally prefer putting it on until some decent mycelium growth is present then remove them for better gas exchange.

Even if the gas exchange is negligible, I still have them kept in a place with 70+% humidity. Plus the Verm layer acts as a filter for contams, PLUS I keep them in a tupperware box and spray it frequently when opening and closing it.

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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: po0dingles]
    #11176932 - 10/03/09 07:33 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

lol, so I stopped in a Ace hardware by my parents today and guess what I found. 1/2 pint widemouths. Pissed me off.
I went to at least 20 stores the 2 days I was looking for them.
I bought all they had. Might as well start some B+ as well.

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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: Mr Fantasy]
    #11192331 - 10/06/09 08:49 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Just found the first spot of mycelium last night, I guess thats a good sign.

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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: Mr Fantasy]
    #11192533 - 10/06/09 09:39 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

checked again this morning and 4 out of 10 have started colonizing so far.

Should the humidity be at a certain level while colonizing?

I have them in a room where I am keeping the temp between 75-82f.
They are in my computer room where the heat is a little higher that the rest of the house.

The temp seems to drop in the room to 75-78 at night and then rise to 78-82 in the day. I guess it is the light from the window and more activity with the router and computers.

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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: Mr Fantasy]
    #11192549 - 10/06/09 09:42 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Lookin good!  Feels good does it not!  Temp is good...and I remember reading somewhere on here that light makes no difference on the jars.


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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: RyeH]
    #11192553 - 10/06/09 09:44 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

yeah i think everybody has went to the light makes no difference thing...


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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: cloudsaregathering]
    #11192585 - 10/06/09 09:53 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

cool,
What about the humidity in the room, it stays around 40-50%
Is that ok for just colonizing.

The weird things is, I left the jars in the glove box and moved the box in the room. 5 jars on one side of the rubbermaid box and 5 on the other side. All the ones that are showing mycelium so far are next to each other on the right side. I wounder why none on the other side are showing , there is only a foot between them.

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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: Mr Fantasy]
    #11195661 - 10/06/09 06:09 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Sounds great. So far I've been successful with putting jars in 70-75 degree climates to incubate. Then once I see mycelium I put them in 80 degree temps (high humidity) and they colonize faster. However I wouldn't go over 80 degrees, since it won't help much. Plus you'll want to have some colonization before you do so, otherwise the increased temps can also increase the risk of foreign contams. Good luck and KEEP READING! Search the forum for all of your questions before u make a new post. I'd also recommend you start participating in the grow log section. :smile:

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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: Mr Fantasy]
    #11303722 - 10/22/09 11:37 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

So it has been 21 days from inoculation, they are still not 100% most are just around 50% a couple around 75-80%. One jar just started showing about 4 days ago, and one not at all. Seems like it is taking a long time.
I have not moved them and temps have been the same around 78-82f.
most are starting to pull away from the jar walls where the mycelium is heaviest.
Is there something I am doing wrong?
Here is a pic from tonight.


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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: Mr Fantasy]
    #11304693 - 10/23/09 07:25 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Bump

So is something wrong that I am doing?
Why are some so spread out in in starting?
Is pulling away from the jar walls normal if not 100% covered?

Since some are late to start should I break up the dunk and roll as they become ready?

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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: Mr Fantasy]
    #11304723 - 10/23/09 07:35 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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I am trying to do BRF cakes with Cubensis EQ.

I went to over 20 stores in the past two days and no one has 1/2 pint wide mouth, so I just got the reg 1/2 pint jars. Top still seems wider that the bottom but taller and skinnier, would these be OK?

Anyway, I think I may have screwed up already and I was so clean about everything. I made the mix, loaded 10 jars, wiped down inside edge, micropore tape over the holes. loaded them in the steamer pot and started boiling 10min. Thats when I remembered i forgot to cover each jar with foil.

I stopped it down, opened the steamer pot and tape looked fine and still dry and sticking to holes. I put the foil over them all, but I am worried about that, It did look like there was slight moisture in the jar. would that just be from the water I put in the verm flower mix?

Should I start over?





In that case I would probably start over, but if its not a bad case of moisture you should be fine because the jars still need to be sterilized. Oh yea and I also used the reg. mouth 1/2 Pint canning jars. They work just fine, the case needs a little tapping to get out, you should be good with those. Good Luck Later :leaving:


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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: kubenzi]
    #11304793 - 10/23/09 07:59 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: kubenzi]
    #11305255 - 10/23/09 10:09 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

They look good, nice and white. Yeah it looks like you are gonna birth some earlier than others. You can wait for all of them but you'd likely be getting pinning invitro on some of the faster jars.

I guess you don't really have the starting over after pc'ing question anymore, but really I don't think I would ever dump out jars and start over until I was sure they were screwed. In the future, if you have reason to believe some jars may be stuffed you could just make more jars as back up. My first jars were incredibly wet, I think I must have mixed wrong but they came out ok in the end. So, they can withstand a couple of mistakes... better to give them the benefit of a doubt:)

I couldn't find wide mouths for my first grow either and it was a bitch. I used the ones you have and I ended up cutting the jars apart with a glass cutter. I'd really let them colonize so tightly that they would not come out without major damage, but I didn't want to take a chance on birthing them too early. Tricky business. My jars never colonise all at the same time, but it doesn't hurt anything... just makes it a little harder to remember which cake is on what flush later on. I thought about putting little labels on toothpicks and sticking them in the cakes to keep up. I think I will do that on my next grow.


After that fiasco of demolishing the jars I used the later colonising ones for bulk because I didn't want to have to destroy all the jars. That worked out ok until I had to leave town for an emergency and came home to trich. :::cry::: But that's a whole 'nother story, grrr.

I keep reading about speedy colonization times but for me it's almost always at least 28 days. Maybe they run with the moon:) That might be that my spore prints were two years old.
Also it's not uncommon for me to see no growth at all after ten days, when this first happened I thought all the jars had failed, but since they weren't contamed I just set them aside and ignored them for another ten days, and then they started taking off.

I had the same experience with Ace, it just seems the wide mouths are harder to find. I ended up having to order them online after going all over town:/
From what I have read the rust on your jar lids won't hurt, but it's annoying...I don't trust it, haha.
Good luck!

Oh, and the pulling away is normal too.

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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: VictoriaPandora]
    #11305566 - 10/23/09 11:21 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for the answering VictoriaPandora. I feel a little better now.

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    #11306205 - 10/23/09 01:23 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Also it's not uncommon for me to see no growth at all after ten days, when this first happened I thought all the jars had failed, but since they weren't contamed I just set them aside and ignored them for another ten days, and then they started taking off.






Thanks man, you just fixed my paranoia about spending $150 on all the supplies for PF-Tek and seeing nothing after 8 days. I got so board I decided to try using rye seed a few days ago. Made up 5 rye jars and I am waiting on them now too lol. I was starting to think that the syringes I got were bunk but a little bird told me that I shouldn't have any problems in a store run by who it is run by. 8 days on my first 6 pf-tek jars and 6 days on my second pf-tek jars and 2 days on my 5 rye seed jars. Hopefully I will see something in the next few days... I would be happy seeing anything grow hopefully I see mycelium tho.


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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: Drevrens]
    #11334560 - 10/27/09 08:29 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

HELP!
I have pinning on jars that are not 100% what should I do?



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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: Mr Fantasy]
    #11334620 - 10/27/09 08:38 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

cut off uncolonized part and fruit. it is usually caused by a contam so do it soon.


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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: feelfunny]
    #11334816 - 10/27/09 09:07 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

should I still dunk and roll them or just go straight in the fruiting chamber?

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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: Mr Fantasy]
    #11334820 - 10/27/09 09:08 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

dunk and roll or just put some verm on top


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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: feelfunny]
    #11335923 - 10/28/09 12:12 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

well, I put the three that were pinning in the fruiting chamber.
As you can see on the left cake, the one with the big pins bruised a bit getting it out of the jar.
I hope some make it.
I think it was the type of jars I used that made them take too long to colonize 100%, everyday they were getting more and more, but today I noticed the pins.

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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: Mr Fantasy]
    #11336408 - 10/28/09 03:41 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Do you see the way the jars turned darker at the bottom? Bacteria!!!!

yuk!

I had a set of jars that did that once. I took them out and washed them under water. I used a little water pressure and all the bacteria parts washed off. Then I dunked and rolled half and grew some in a casing.
Worked perfectly fine.

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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: Kidwonder]
    #11336733 - 10/28/09 07:17 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I think the darker at the bottom in my pic is from it being wetter, I had just did a light dunk and roll before that picture. The mycelium was a little looser in that area and absorbed more. it is the same color over all now.

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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: Mr Fantasy]
    #11360164 - 10/31/09 10:01 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

just an update on those jars so far, the bigger mushroom on the far left is the one that I bruised getting out of the jar, I am glade it survived.


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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: Mr Fantasy]
    #11360174 - 10/31/09 10:03 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

How often are you fanning ??

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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: Shea25]
    #11360248 - 10/31/09 10:21 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Um, fanning?  I think I missed that part
I was just doing the PF-TEK with the shotgun terrarium.
and watching the vids at lets grow mushrooms.

What should I do??? I have a fan.

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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: Mr Fantasy]
    #11360266 - 10/31/09 10:23 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Yea your mushrooms look like there lacking FAE (Fresh Air Exchange) thats why I asked.

Heres what you want to do. Mist the cakes 3-4 times a day and then fan right afterwards, just use the lid of the fruiting chamber to fan it out. Fan 5-6 times a day.

Over time the FC will need to replenish the O2. It builds up Co2 which is not good for forming fruit bodies.

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    #11360287 - 10/31/09 10:29 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

cool, I have been misting 3-4 times a day.
so I just want to move the air around a bit?
Is that why the are so round?

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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: Mr Fantasy]
    #11360298 - 10/31/09 10:31 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

You want to fan them for a good 30 seconds to a minute after every mist.

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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: Shea25]
    #11360322 - 10/31/09 10:38 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks, I just went in and fanned them.

I am so glad this forum is here with people helping each other, it would suck to figure this stuff out by yourself. Seems like you can learn in a day what took people back in the day a year to learn from trial and error.

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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: Mr Fantasy]
    #11360340 - 10/31/09 10:41 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Yea its a vast library of knowledge, with people like you and me ect.. around to help out others

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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: Shea25]
    #11360589 - 11/01/09 12:09 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Next time you've got a stubborn PF cake like that (seemingly stuck at that last 1-20%) cut it off like you did and just spawn it to a small bulk tray. Shit's like scooby snaks, the myc will just take off, and you'll get way more yeild. Gladware containers you get like with lunch meat are perfect size IMO, you can get away with half a cake per tray.


Oh and REALLY keep an eye out for those wide mouth half pints. You can get cakes to colonize from multispore in like 2 weeks with those, less with a good LC, they colonize from the bottom up for me usually.


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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: Randomstickynote]
    #11360609 - 11/01/09 12:17 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Healthy cakes should not stall at 80% let them colonize and fruit as is. If you want to spawn to bulk use grains. As for the correct jar's always use the short 1/2 pint jars for the PF jars

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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: Shea25]
    #11360674 - 11/01/09 12:54 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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Healthy cakes should not stall at 80% let them colonize and fruit as is. If you want to spawn to bulk use grains. As for the correct jar's always use the short 1/2 pint jars for the PF jars



I'm not talking about real stalling, I'm saying for people using those tall half pints, that last 1-20% seems to just take forever sometimes (like, you'll wait all week as that tiny corner gets smaller and smaller at a snails pace) Instead of waiting all freaking week for a tiny useless corner, hack that off and spawn to a tray, and have that tray colonized in the same amount of time.

As for using grains, there's nothing wrong with running some PF cakes/small trays between and during projects. I have a ton of verm and BR sitting around, every time I'm going to PC something I mix up 2 or 4 PF cakes and throw them in there too.


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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: Randomstickynote]
    #11360930 - 11/01/09 03:35 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I have used the tall half pints, waiting the extra week or so for them to colonize it worth it. If you want to spawn to bulk use grains. fruiting cakes as is, is the best way i just got under 18 grams dry off 2 cakes first flush

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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: Shea25]
    #11361399 - 11/01/09 08:16 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

thats what seems is happening, they never stopped colonizing but just taking forever to get to the bottom and corners. Then the first part that colonized starts to pin before the jar is 100%. I found some short 1/2 pint wides, I am going to start those this week.

Thanks for the help guys, I am sure I will be asking for more.

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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: Mr Fantasy]
    #11429695 - 11/10/09 10:29 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I just harvested part of my first flush a couple days ago.
still waiting to harvesting the first on the jars that took a while to fully colonize.

my question now is, why am I getting a lot of short stumpy ones, and also why am I getting blueing on the base of some I never touch?
I am now misting 3-4 times a day and fan for FAE 4-6 times a day.
Am I over misting? I want to nail this down before I start my next batch.
Here are som pics of some of the first flush, and before anyone asks, those are two rocks I boiled and put under the cake to hold it up because I had to cut part of the uncolonized part off.







one of the the first I picked and dried.



On a side note:
I am a noob at growing mushrooms, but not at eating them.
I have had many good and so,so trips even some real duds in my life.

So I dried and ground up 4 grams from the above and made a chocolate bar.
I tell you about 2 hours in I was in another world. I could barely tell what way was up. Shadows turned to holes and streams, the rug on my bathroom floor turned to a twisted stairway that just went down, my pillows turned into giant mushroom stalks that were holding my head. It was very intense, I would say too intense, and then I got stuck in a mind game till I fell asleep.
I thought EQ was going to just be average from what I had read, holy mother of god was I wrong.

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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: Mr Fantasy]
    #11431407 - 11/11/09 06:01 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Bump,
my question now is, why am I getting a lot of short stumpy ones, and also why am I getting blueing on the base of some I never touch?
I am now misting 3-4 times a day and fan for FAE 4-6 times a day.
Am I over misting? I want to nail this down before I start my next batch.

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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: Mr Fantasy]
    #11447621 - 11/13/09 12:29 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)




Well, I don't know, I wouldn't worry about the blueing. And I always get the short fatties with the EQ's, a few of them come out pretty large but they tend to be quite short and very round. I think that is just their nature because I can grow GT's right beside them and they come out a lot more picturesque.

However,I'm rather fond of the EQ's now, they are my favourite right now. No problem in the potency department at all! I've had them blue at the bottoms before too, but not a noticably as yours. My GUESS is they are just potent, they're so fat they can barely get out of the cake without bruising themselves, haha.

It sounds like you're doing everything right, but right now I am much happier that I rigged a cool mist into the FC, they seem to like the mist a lot more than my spraying. I just turn it on when I would normally be spraying them.
The spraying seemed kind of harsh and they would build a lot of myc up on the base, maybe from all the misting. I am still learning...
I should take a picture of the short fatties I have right now, they look about like your ones, I think I am fanning plenty, it just seems to be what the EQ's I have grown tend to be like.

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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: VictoriaPandora]
    #11448893 - 11/13/09 04:11 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Also those short fatties pinned invitro and I think that affects their growth from there on out.

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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: VictoriaPandora]
    #11449164 - 11/13/09 04:58 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Dude, those look great. My first grow was EQ. For PF cakes those don't look short at all. They are bigger than the EQ's that I first grow. As for them turning blue, I don't know. But if they are potent, and obviously look good, I don't see the problem. Personally I think I would mist once or twice a day maybe morning and night. Really do it as needed but I wouldn't think you would need to do it as much, but then again you might with your growing condition. Looks good though, I don't see a problem.

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Re: first attempt at growing [Re: daytripper05]
    #11449173 - 11/13/09 04:59 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

You changed the thread, and the original picture? You should put the the pics back up at least. They were good pics. :shrug:

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