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Confused About Tyvek Material
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I Searched it, read about, still cant seem to get an answer to my question, So In The "6T WBS Tek" He puts 1 layer of tyvek under the lid, iwth 2 pretty big holes ontop, then when i searched through the forums, Some ppl are saying to put 2 layers of tyvek, then some are saying dont but the tyvek under the lid but it over the lid, so im confused, i need a straight answer, do i put the layer under the lid or over the lid? Do I use one or 2 layers? i only have one very small hole in the top of my jar just big enough for the needle, do i even need the tyvek layer? can i just put tin foil and call it good?
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One Other Question should i put a small layer of vermiculite ontop of the WBS Then Presure Cook it?
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Thank You for you help

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Re: Confused About Tyvek Material [Re: sounderror]
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first post here!  I have been reading the same things as sounderror, and am also interested in the best method.  My current plan is to put one layer of tyvek on top of the jar.


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Re: Confused About Tyvek Material [Re: davegrant73]
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You should follow the lid making method on Doc's wild bird seed tek.  He uses tyvek and polyfill.  I have used the tyvek/polyfill combo numerous times with great success.  It also works well with rye and pf jars (if you wanna take out the verm layer).


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Re: Confused About Tyvek Material [Re: wasting_space]
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ok
polyfill works keeps in moister good u want small holes when using it and to put in the holes roll a small piece in your hands like you would roll a playdo snake

i never used poly fill out side the lid
i used it on the inside
inside is better for 1 reason i can think of and thats finding the hole

you want tyvek or polyfill or both

from what ihear tinfoil dont help with nothin but when u pc so more watter dont boil in to the jar

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Re: Confused About Tyvek Material [Re: sounderror]
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No verm in the WBS. It won't stay on top after you shake anyway.

I've gone back and forth on lids. I've used Tyvek all year, and now I'm leaning back toward polyfil.
Drill or punch two holes in the lid- one for an RTV injection port, one for a poly puff.


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Re: Confused About Tyvek Material [Re: Doc_T]
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i got the roll of tyv from lowest or homedebet .  i have been doing the self healing port thing. 2 1/4 inch holes 1 filled with rtv the other has a round circle of ty-v rtv'd to the under side of the lid.

thats it. nothing else just the lid and ring. if you use any ty-v that is made into other stuff then ya 2 layers but the home improvement type in the big roll is the best i have found.

if you do the lid thing with rtv then 1 roll will live longer than you and i just dish wash lids jars etc fill and pc.

once you get a few going they save time.

i do not have a link to the tek but the idea is simple and the ty-v on the inside of the jar has do problems getting wet cuz ty repels h20.

good luck


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Re: Confused About Tyvek Material [Re: ratdog]
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only way i will do my jars


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Re: Confused About Tyvek Material [Re: feelfunny]
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Let me quote myself from a week or so ago when we were talking about this same subject.  hope this helps:

Psuper said:
For a single layer Tyvek filter you want to use material from the suits, sleeves, or kite material(RR's advice there).  The Tyvek envelopes are thinner tyvek and are most often, as far as i can tell, used in conjunction with a second layer of tyvek, or on top of a jar lid hole stuffed with poly-fill.  That isn't to say that some people don't use a single layer effectively.

I used the thinner Tyvek on top of a Tyvek stuffed lid for my first few projects, because I learned bulk projects first from Doc34 (who is a TC no longer an active member here) and his WBS-Tek, but I really think that having a single layer of good Tyvek (I use the sleeves) is better.  And, while i use rye berries now, changing my lid and filter setup along with continuously perfecting my grain prep (i.e. moisture content) is what was needed to bring down the colonization times of my jars.  ~P~



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Re: Confused About Tyvek Material [Re: Psuper]
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The filter should be on the outside of the jar so it will remain dry.  Wet filter material is almost as bad as no filter at all.

If you're serious about this hobby, order some synthetic filter disks.  They cost about 40 cents each and can be used thousands of times, over and over again.  They're about ten to twenty times the thickness of tyvek, breathe well, and don't wear out.  That makes them not only the best, but also the least expensive filter method.
RR


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Re: Confused About Tyvek Material [Re: RogerRabbit]
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Wow You guys are awesome!! i really appreciate all the help, i was kinda expecting to get blown off, But Obviously this is a good community!  Thanks Again!

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Re: Confused About Tyvek Material [Re: sounderror]
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We can do that too:

UTFSE you n00b! :kingcrankey:

:ilold:


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Re: Confused About Tyvek Material [Re: Doc_T]
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:lolz0rz::rofl:


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Re: Confused About Tyvek Material [Re: feelfunny]
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bar coasters work in place of filter disks so i hear...


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Re: Confused About Tyvek Material [Re: Slimz]
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Slimz said:
bar coasters work in place of filter disks so i hear...



now why didn't i think of that ............. they are like tribbels around here.


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some people just don't get it:spank:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11241796
so here is a video or two or three for you guys:rolleyes:

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Re: Confused About Tyvek Material [Re: sounderror]
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One layer. Put it together like this:





:goodluck:


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Re: Confused About Tyvek Material [Re: BrandNewbie]
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RR, you say you get filter discs for .40 a piece? Where do you get yours if I might inquire?


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Re: Confused About Tyvek Material [Re: Psychedelicious]
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RR recomended this site: http://www.vgdusa.com/Whatman-Filters.asp ; :rockon:


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Re: Confused About Tyvek Material [Re: BrandNewbie]
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BrandNewbie said:
One layer. Put it together like this:





:goodluck:


Thanks For the Pictures! so isnstead of going to the post office i went to lowes and bought a roll of what the guy told me was tyvek, the roll was like 5 bucks and is blue and all it says is its a sealant i trying blowing air through it but nothing goes through it is tyvek supposed to do that?

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Re: Confused About Tyvek Material [Re: sounderror]
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yes.. tyvek lets gas exchange happen, but you can not blow through it.. kinda like a cell wall


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This series will blow your mind and confirm what you already know to be true.
The Pharmacratic Inquisition
Best Thread Ever ! ! !

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Edited by Slimz (10/01/09 03:28 PM)

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Re: Confused About Tyvek Material [Re: sounderror]
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sounderror said:
BrandNewbie said:
One layer. Put it together like this:





:goodluck:


Thanks For the Pictures! so isnstead of going to the post office i went to lowes and bought a roll of what the guy told me was tyvek, the roll was like 5 bucks and is blue and all it says is its a sealant i trying blowing air through it but nothing goes through it is tyvek supposed to do that?


to my knowledge, tyvek is supposed to give you good fae(free air exchange) without the worry of contaminates, i dont think ive ever seen it here but i think it should let a little air through, otherwise one should just put tinfoil on top

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Re: Confused About Tyvek Material [Re: Aimemailadress]
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lol i stand corrected

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Re: Confused About Tyvek Material [Re: Aimemailadress]
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have anyone ever bought tyvek? cause if i blow into like super  hard, maybe a tiny tiny tiny bit of air goes through

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Re: Confused About Tyvek Material [Re: sounderror]
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this is ty vek roll

its not cheep

it works well

its from lowest low hardware superet



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some people just don't get it:spank:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11241796
so here is a video or two or three for you guys:rolleyes:

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Re: Confused About Tyvek Material [Re: ratdog]
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Well here is what the guy at lowes told me was tyvek


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Re: Confused About Tyvek Material [Re: sounderror]
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that looks like styrofoam

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Re: Confused About Tyvek Material [Re: HaRo On KoRn]
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I cut up these tyvek coveralls into about 50-75 squares.


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Re: Confused About Tyvek Material [Re: Phoenix Force]
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what do those cost

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Re: Confused About Tyvek Material [Re: HaRo On KoRn]
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$3 from the paint store, XXL and M are the same price...

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Re: Confused About Tyvek Material [Re: Phoenix Force]
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i want one to have in my trunk so if im all fresh and need to change a tire bam clean guard lol

like that one guy the fonzo or somthing

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Re: Confused About Tyvek Material [Re: HaRo On KoRn]
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HaRo On KoRn said:
i want one to have in my trunk so if im all fresh and need to change a tire bam clean guard lol



Good idea, and at that price how can you refuse?


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Re: Confused About Tyvek Material [Re: sounderror]
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sounderror said:
Well here is what the guy at Lowe's told me was Tyvek




take that shit back and tell the guy to go f@#$# him self and make sure its in front of the manager. if he don't know what Tyvek is he should not be working there. DuPont would be pissed.


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some people just don't get it:spank:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11241796
so here is a video or two or three for you guys:rolleyes:

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Re: Confused About Tyvek Material [Re: ratdog]
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My source of tyvek...


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Re: Confused About Tyvek Material [Re: daytripper05]
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daytripper05 said:
My source of tyvek...




fed crime to use that shit

and the coveralls need 2 layers to work good

go for the good stuff if you skimp you will pay in the end.


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some people just don't get it:spank:
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