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Offline3eyedgod
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Satan on War
    #1115352 - 12/05/02 10:00 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Not a beleiver in Christianity or Satanism but I found this interesting http://www.abrupt.org/LOGOS/sow/sow1.html (it has 2 pages make sure you read them both)

I feel this argument for satanism is just as convincing as the argument for christianity.

I could be wrong but after reading this i'd say Christianity is to the superego what Satanism is to the id.

I'd be particularly interested in any replies from MarkostheGnostic, as he seems to be the shroomerys own authority on Christian idealogy.


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Post deleted by Moe Howard [Re: 3eyedgod]
    #1115471 - 12/05/02 10:45 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)



Edited by Morrowind (12/05/02 10:46 PM)


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Re: Satan on War [Re: ]
    #1116209 - 12/06/02 03:11 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Yes, the website is pretty yucky but I don't let that get to me. Sounds like the creator has some issues to solve.

I really hope you do not leave but if you do know that you will be missed.

Take care of yourself friend.


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Re: Satan on War [Re: ]
    #1116454 - 12/06/02 09:07 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

you're leaving this forum beacuse of someone else's opinion? good luck to ya, and peace be the journey.


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Re: Satan on War [Re: 3eyedgod]
    #1116455 - 12/06/02 09:10 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

in a way i agree with you about this being as convincing an agrument as christianity, but only in the sense that it only gives 1/2 of the coin. i don't believe that one should live totally in blissful ignorance because their god protects them from all evil, just as i don't believe one should live totally in the dark believing that they are only out for death and horror. i enjoy bliss AND horror. i wouldn't be human if i didn't...


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Re: Satan on War [Re: 3eyedgod]
    #1116681 - 12/06/02 11:39 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

I don't get what exactly the argument is, but I'd say that this, for example, is a plain lie:

Can you drag your eyes from the vision of a body stretched upon the rack, broken on the wheel, or squeezed to lifelessness by the slow agony of the hangman's rope? No, you can only gaze transfixed, every grain of your attention focused on the sight. And can you look away from the writhing monster of a battlefield, close your ears to the shrieks and groans of wounded men, close your eyes to the blood and the mangled flesh? No, you are entranced, enchanted, gleeful at the lurid picture of violent death and slaughter.

Except when violence is displayed on a screen (which is something different and a cultural issue), people do not "gaze transfixed", they look away. They just look into another direction. The above paragraph is a fiction, not an argument based on human psychology.

Disinfo has a great dossier on the Process Church of Final Judgement (author of "Satan on War"):

http://www.disinfo.com/pages/dossier/id275/pg1/




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Re: Satan on War [Re: akyouser_oner]
    #1117391 - 12/06/02 03:36 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

in a way i agree with you about this being as convincing an agrument as christianity, but only in the sense that it only gives 1/2 of the coin. i don't believe that one should live totally in blissful ignorance because their god protects them from all evil, just as i don't believe one should live totally in the dark believing that they are only out for death and horror. i enjoy bliss AND horror. i wouldn't be human if i didn't...

that's the same way i see it.


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Re: Satan on War [Re: Nomad]
    #1117397 - 12/06/02 03:38 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

I thought the same thing when i read the article. However Christian doctrine lies too. No I can't think of an example off the top of my head. I'm not terribly familiar with Christianity.


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Re: Satan on War [Re: 3eyedgod]
    #1117458 - 12/06/02 03:54 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

... however, from a purely rhetorical or stylistic point of view, the text is surely great literature. I enjoyed it a lot, in the same sense I enjoy a bad horror movie. Maybe one could approach christianity with the same mindset...

Thanks for the link.  :smile: 


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    #1117582 - 12/06/02 04:23 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: Satan on War [Re: ]
    #1117623 - 12/06/02 04:37 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

I hear you Morrowmind.  My pm's are always open for you in case you  need it.

Have a great winter.  You will be missed. :frown:


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Re: Satan on War [Re: ]
    #1117828 - 12/06/02 05:52 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

After Forever sort of explains that- the band was soo fuckin sick of being labelled satanists, they tried to end that

i don't know that your statement is true for a fact, but i take this opportunity to wish you all the best over the winter months. i was always(in the past) a big Sabbath fan, owning vinyl copies(still to this day) black sabbath, paranoid, masters or reality, volume 4, sabotage etc :smile: 


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Re: Satan on War [Re: FreakQlibrium]
    #1120431 - 12/07/02 08:53 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

i don't know that your statement is true for a fact, but i take this opportunity to wish you all the best over the winter months. i was always(in the past) a big Sabbath fan, owning vinyl copies(still to this day) black sabbath, paranoid, masters or reality, volume 4, sabotage etc 




No Dio???
:grin: 


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Re: Satan on War [Re: ]
    #1120453 - 12/07/02 09:06 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

No Dio!!

        hehe :wink: yeah well the RJD period was a little after my time of being really heavily into rock music. i will concede that i have "Last in Line" as well as used to have "Sacred heart"(both on vinyl)......saw the mighty mite in Detroit with Doro Pesch(Warlock) and Yngwie Malmsteen at Harpo's in December of 2000.....also saw Malmsteen open for Dio at the canadian national exhibition grandstand in the Summer of 1990 :grin: 


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