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Caught with 5lbs Cannabis
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Hello,

SWIM was pulled over with 5 lbs of cannabis in California. Besides this fact, I haven't heard from him and all I know is that he is going to the LA prison tonight.

UPDATE: Bail was $25,000 and I believe he is out now on his way back into town.

What kind of penalties is he looking at?

Sorry for the vague details, but I will update it when I know more.

Edited by StriplessRED (09/30/09 07:41 PM)

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Re: Caught with 5lbs Cannabis [Re: StriplessRED]
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Damn someone posted 2500.  He must have some good friends.


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Re: Caught with 5lbs Cannabis [Re: WW27HF]
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WW27HF said:
Damn someone posted 2500.  He must have some good friends.


shit moving that much weight I would hope he could afford it.


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Re: Caught with 5lbs Cannabis [Re: subject]
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^^ very true.


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Re: Caught with 5lbs Cannabis [Re: WW27HF]
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he said $25 000 not $2 500...

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Re: Caught with 5lbs Cannabis [Re: P-O]
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"he said $25 000 not $2 500..."
I believe the way bail works is you can pay a 10 percent bond to someone.

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Re: Caught with 5lbs Cannabis [Re: bhamlaxy]
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bhamlaxy said:
"he said $25 000 not $2 500..."
I believe the way bail works is you can pay a 10 percent bond to someone.


not in every state but generally

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Re: Caught with 5lbs Cannabis [Re: DAVID_ALLAN_CEO]
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If its his first charge he will probably get off on some serious probation...He needs to hire a lawyer though


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Re: Caught with 5lbs Cannabis [Re: MHbound]
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Are the at court apointed lawyers ever any good?  or is it best to hire a new one?

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Re: Caught with 5lbs Cannabis [Re: P-O]
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Another victimless crime being perpetrated by another LEO! This "Drug War" is really getting on my nerves already. Sorry to hear about your friend. Hope everything works out.

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Re: Caught with 5lbs Cannabis [Re: Wronguy]
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Better to hire one...The court appointed ones are there to guide you to some degree but its not like when you hire one...The hired ones actually try to help instead of just kind of going through the motions...The good ones anyway.


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Re: Caught with 5lbs Cannabis [Re: MHbound]
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always remember that court appointed lawyers work for the court system. they don't win any extra points for getting you out of trouble. alot of times, they will try to talk you into taking a deal that will screw you rather than help you.


hire a lawyer.

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Re: Caught with 5lbs Cannabis [Re: moe.phan]
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moe.phan said:
always remember that court appointed lawyers work for the court system. they don't win any extra points for getting you out of trouble. alot of times, they will try to talk you into taking a deal that will screw you rather than help you.


hire a lawyer.


Amen to that from personal experience.  If you can afford a lawyer get one.


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Re: Caught with 5lbs Cannabis [Re: mr.bixby]
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makes my recent felony possession seem like no big deal.  i hope the best for SWIY.

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Re: Caught with 5lbs Cannabis [Re: StriplessRED]
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Normally I'd say get bonded out and then flee to Mexico.

In this particular case, it seems the consequences wouldn't warrant all that.


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Re: Caught with 5lbs Cannabis [Re: Humility]
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I call absolute bullshit on the people talking about court-appointed lawyers.

YOU GUYS should remember that these people are in these courthouses all the time and when you hire some spiffy outside lawyer they will often have an attitude towards them. They are also far more likely to be able to strike deals for you considering they're working with the people who decide your fate every day.

Unless ya gettin' Cochrane, you might actually be better off with a court-appointed.

My 2cents, gathered information from lawyers in my family who have done both.


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Re: Caught with 5lbs Cannabis [Re: Kiefish]
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Kiefish said:
I call absolute bullshit on the people talking about court-appointed lawyers.

YOU GUYS should remember that these people are in these courthouses all the time and when you hire some spiffy outside lawyer they will often have an attitude towards them. They are also far more likely to be able to strike deals for you considering they're working with the people who decide your fate every day.

Unless ya gettin' Cochrane, you might actually be better off with a court-appointed.

My 2cents, gathered information from lawyers in my family who have done both.


I call absolute bullshit on that, from personal experience.

A friend and I were arrested together, at the exact same time, for marijuana possession.  We were parked on the side of the road IN HIS TRUCK, when teh cops pulled up, we were done smoking,b ut the truck reeked of pot.  He hid the half ounce he just picked up in his ashtray.  Cops pull us out, even though he claims the weed, while in his truck, they gave us both possession charges since i was smoking willingly as well.

Anyways, come to court date, we are both on the same day, I go up before him, talk to the judge with my court appointed lawyer, get 1yr supervised probation, $500 fine, $250 court fee, 80 hours community service, and a drug and alcohol course.

My friend goes up, the one that the report said owned the vehicle AND claimed possession, but he has a lawyer that he hired instead of court appointed.  He gets 6 months supervised probation, no fine at all, $250 court fees, 40 hours community service, and no classes...

This was about 10 years ago now, but is exactly how it went down.

peace

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Re: Caught with 5lbs Cannabis [Re: Kiefish]
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Kiefish said:
Unless ya gettin' Cochrane, you might actually be better off with a court-appointed.
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worst advice ever. maybe 1 out of 100 public defenders fall into this category


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Re: Caught with 5lbs Cannabis [Re: 2859558484]
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Agreed.  Money buys justice period. Learn it the hard way like most poor people or the easy way.


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Re: Caught with 5lbs Cannabis [Re: mr.bixby]
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Quote:
Money buys justice period.


100% true. 

Always buy the best lawyer you can afford since your future is at stake.  Also haggle with the lawyers over price and try to only buy the services you actually use.  Don't pay what it would cost to go to trial since you will probably plea out anyway, which doesn't take much lawyer time.

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Re: Caught with 5lbs Cannabis [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
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I'd point out that it's not a bad idea to start with a PD and hire a lawyer if your PD isn't doing jack.  Often the PD will do enough work to save you thousands of dollars on the real lawyer.  It's also a great reason for an extension.


-FF

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Re: Caught with 5lbs Cannabis [Re: fastfred]
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Court appointed lawyers are good for say......Speeding tickets but not going to do you a damn bit of good in a case like this.

Whoever said that take that bullshit somewhere else.


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Re: Caught with 5lbs Cannabis [Re: StriplessRED]
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Well to anyone who is interested in how this played out..

He was charged with 2 felonies I believe and was sentenced to serve 90 days in jail.
With good behavior he should be out in about 54, since he already served a few days at the time of his arrest.

3 years probation.

Edited by StriplessRED (05/17/10 08:40 PM)

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Re: Caught with 5lbs Cannabis [Re: StriplessRED]
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Thanks for the update!  You probably mean jail instead of prison though.  People don't usually go to prison unless they get a year or longer.


-FF

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Re: Caught with 5lbs Cannabis [Re: StriplessRED]
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StriplessRED said:
Well to anyone who is interested in how this played out..

He was charged with 2 felonies I believe and was sentenced to serve 90 days in prison.
With good behavior he should be out in about 54, since he already served a few days at the time of his arrest.

3 years probation.


That is terrible, but could have been a bit worse.

Do you know if he had any priors or violent offenses/felonies in the past? Apologies if you already mentioned that, I'm having a bit of trouble viewing this entire thread.



~Monk

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Re: Caught with 5lbs Cannabis [Re: StriplessRED]
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StriplessRED said:
Well to anyone who is interested in how this played out..

He was charged with 2 felonies I believe and was sentenced to serve 90 days in prison.
With good behavior he should be out in about 54, since he already served a few days at the time of his arrest.

3 years probation.


That's not so bad considering he had 5 lbs.  Would I be correct in assuming he got a lawyer for that?  The Jail time will suck, but with good behavior, he'll be out in less than 2 months.  Does he have the option for early release from probation for good behavior or anything?  A lot of people I know that get probation have the option of 1/2 time for good behavior; in this case, if he had that, I think that would be like a slap on the wrist.  I think the worst part about all this is now he's a convicted felon, but hey, he could be just fine even with that on his record.


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Re: Caught with 5lbs Cannabis [Re: illuminati]
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fastfred said:
Thanks for the update!  You probably mean jail instead of prison though.  People don't usually go to prison unless they get a year or longer.


-FF


Yep thanks.

numonkei said:
That is terrible, but could have been a bit worse.

Do you know if he had any priors or violent offenses/felonies in the past? Apologies if you already mentioned that, I'm having a bit of trouble viewing this entire thread.



~Monk


No priors!

illuminati said:
That's not so bad considering he had 5 lbs.  Would I be correct in assuming he got a lawyer for that?  The Jail time will suck, but with good behavior, he'll be out in less than 2 months.  Does he have the option for early release from probation for good behavior or anything?  A lot of people I know that get probation have the option of 1/2 time for good behavior; in this case, if he had that, I think that would be like a slap on the wrist.  I think the worst part about all this is now he's a convicted felon, but hey, he could be just fine even with that on his record.


Yea he could be out in like a month or less with good behavior or even less if there is over crowding.

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Re: Caught with 5lbs Cannabis [Re: Kiefish]
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Kiefish said:
I call absolute bullshit on the people talking about court-appointed lawyers.

YOU GUYS should remember that these people are in these courthouses all the time and when you hire some spiffy outside lawyer they will often have an attitude towards them. They are also far more likely to be able to strike deals for you considering they're working with the people who decide your fate every day.

Unless ya gettin' Cochrane, you might actually be better off with a court-appointed.

My 2cents, gathered information from lawyers in my family who have done both.



BULLSHIT!!! ON YOUR BULLSHIT.  They are way overworked to take any personal interest in your case.  my last public defendant got me a year of probation...except i should have gotten 6 months.  yeah i spent way more in probation fees then i would have spent on a lawyer that would have given two shits about my case.


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mr.bixby said:
Agreed.  Money buys justice period. Learn it the hard way like most poor people or the easy way.

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Re: Caught with 5lbs Cannabis [Re: Kiefish]
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Kiefish said:
I call absolute bullshit on the people talking about court-appointed lawyers.

YOU GUYS should remember that these people are in these courthouses all the time and when you hire some spiffy outside lawyer they will often have an attitude towards them. They are also far more likely to be able to strike deals for you considering they're working with the people who decide your fate every day.

Unless ya gettin' Cochrane, you might actually be better off with a court-appointed.

My 2cents, gathered information from lawyers in my family who have done both.


Yea that doesn't sound right at all...

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Re: Caught with 5lbs Cannabis [Re: StriplessRED]
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Do you know if he got caught with it driving or was his place raided or how he was busted?

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Re: Caught with 5lbs Cannabis [Re: ben_dover0802]
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ben_dover0802 said:
Do you know if he got caught with it driving or was his place raided or how he was busted?


He was in a parking lot (private property) and they searched his car. Not sure on the exact details.

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Re: Caught with 5lbs Cannabis [Re: StriplessRED]
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I was in holding with a guy who was going away for 18 months for traffic related tickets (speeding, driving on suspended license, etc. Not one DUI, though). So 90 days for 5lbs isn't bad at all.

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