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Using Psychedelics to Learn (A 2nd Language)
    #11149466 - 09/29/09 11:59 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Currently I'm trying to learn Japanese. I've been studying on my own for a year and I've recently started a formal class. A while ago I had a dream where I was speaking fluently. My dream even had subtitles to what I was saying. I was amazed when I woke up. In my dreams I knew how to speak fluently! My Japanese in real life is beginner/intermediate.

Somewhere in my subconscious, I know how to speak and translate Japanese almost perfectly. I did it in my dream a few times. Somewhere, my brain actually can understand and learn more than what I'm doing now.

So I thought about it. Psychedelics stream your subconscious into your conscious. It let's your brain take on new and strange thinking patterns. Synapses form differently and at locations they normally wouldn't when tripping. I'm considering taking a trip to unlock the language from my subconscious. I want to write in Japanese and listen to native speakers and study vocab and try to speak it while I'm tripping. I have this odd feeling that it would help me grasp the language in a way my mind normally wouldn't.

Have any of you studied something while under the influence of psychedelics? Did you understand it better after tripping? Would you recommend it?


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Re: Using Psychedelics to Learn (A 2nd Language) [Re: Dynoo]
    #11149626 - 09/29/09 12:40 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Interesting concept. I really have no idea if it will work or not. I'd say try it with LSD and report back your findings. I feel like if you studied it while tripping you may not retain it while sober, but would remember it again while tripping again.

I can tell you that if you really want to learn Japanese, take a trip to Japan for a little bit and practice what you know. I spent a year there knowing nothing and came back damn near fluent.

Did you recognize what you were saying in your dream as actual Japanese words?

ps-I'd love to trip acid in Japan. It is a ridiculous, crazy, awesome place.


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Re: Using Psychedelics to Learn (A 2nd Language) [Re: zephyr9629]
    #11149664 - 09/29/09 12:48 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Terence McKenna's idea was that tryptamines (although mushrooms in particular, according to him) activate the language centers of the brain, so I can see how it would make sense that one could make new connections and visualize language in a better, more intuitive way.

Like the other guy, I'd say try it with LSD first though.

Personally I've never studied anything while tripping, although a psychedelic regimen in combination with studying while lucid has worked wonders for me in retaining information. What you might find is that it is impossible to keep yourself focused on the task at hand while tripping. I feel like my mind is a clean slate on acid where my past never happened and the future does not exist, and I sometimes find it nearly impossible to stay focused on any one concrete thing.


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Re: Using Psychedelics to Learn (A 2nd Language) [Re: zephyr9629]
    #11149694 - 09/29/09 12:58 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

i think its a possibility, on low doses.  i remember watching some japanese channel once when i tripped, the language seemed almost english to me.


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Re: Using Psychedelics to Learn (A 2nd Language) [Re: nightbringer]
    #11149696 - 09/29/09 12:58 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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I sometimes find it nearly impossible to stay focused on any one concrete thing.



LOL it took me a half hour to pack a bowl while tripping acid.


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Re: Using Psychedelics to Learn (A 2nd Language) [Re: Dynoo]
    #11149969 - 09/29/09 01:42 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I encourage you to give it a shot and see what happens. I'd love to hear how it goes.


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Re: Using Psychedelics to Learn (A 2nd Language) [Re: laserpig]
    #11150132 - 09/29/09 02:12 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

You'll give it up when tripping.


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Re: Using Psychedelics to Learn (A 2nd Language) [Re: OutThisLife]
    #11150143 - 09/29/09 02:13 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

idk about languge but lsd has helped me with algebra


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Re: Using Psychedelics to Learn (A 2nd Language) [Re: mantis90]
    #11150279 - 09/29/09 02:37 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Having had allot of experience with lucid dreaming and dreams in general, I bet it was just a belief/impression that you thought you had  understanding of the language fluently. See if you can recall any f the dreams details my bet is you wont be able to.


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