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Re: First grow, using perlite/BRF substrate [Re: fundamentalchair]
    #11214010 - 10/09/09 09:02 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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My pic is of the inside of a monotub, shot from the outside. Yes, I have non-clear tubs. I hate myself.

There looks to be a ring of red around that growth. What is that? I can't see it too well, as I can't up-size the pics (flash disabled...).

You have a dry verm layer on top of the rice, yes? Also, you have holes poked in the foil?



The red ring is drawn in photoshop haha I drew that to outline the myc since it wasn't very clear in the photos.  I have a dry perlite layer on top of the rice, holes poked in the foil and covered with the lid screwed on as tight as I could.

The myc is getting thicker now, here are better pics of it:


click for full size, shouldnt need flash this time


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Re: First grow, using perlite/BRF substrate [Re: MZA]
    #11216640 - 10/09/09 05:05 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Thats Myc allright. Careful with the red, not zoomed in it looked kinda like lipstick mold.

Where in the fuck did you get a VHS tape?


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Re: First grow, using perlite/BRF substrate [Re: fundamentalchair]
    #11237957 - 10/13/09 06:26 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Haha I don't even know, it's been sitting in that closet forever


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Re: First grow, using perlite/BRF substrate [Re: MZA]
    #11238015 - 10/13/09 06:53 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

dude. you should find some rye grain. its an awesome substrate and pretty easy to prepare. you can turn 1 jar of mycelium into 10 in no time. its also really good for spawning to bulk substrates. i personally hate cakes. but i guess its good for some to get there feet 'wet. i started straight out with rye though and haven't looked back. good luck to you though man.              :borat:


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Re: First grow, using perlite/BRF substrate [Re: FlyingMonk]
    #11331635 - 10/27/09 01:16 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Pics taken 6 days ago:







the other jars aren't quite as far along, I'll check them today


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Re: First grow, using perlite/BRF substrate [Re: MZA]
    #11332356 - 10/27/09 03:39 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

:awebig:

Lookin good dude.


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Re: First grow, using perlite/BRF substrate [Re: fundamentalchair]
    #11345119 - 10/29/09 12:54 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

A couple of the jars are taking forever, one in particular, only has thick myc around 1 injection site and just a little fuzz on the others and hasn't changed much, if it's the last jar to not be complete would it be possible to just use a partial cake?

Also should I be worried about gas exchange since I have no holes on the outside


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Re: First grow, using perlite/BRF substrate [Re: FlyingMonk]
    #11345305 - 10/29/09 01:23 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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dude. you should find some rye grain. its an awesome substrate and pretty easy to prepare. you can turn 1 jar of mycelium into 10 in no time. its also really good for spawning to bulk substrates. i personally hate cakes. but i guess its good for some to get there feet 'wet. i started straight out with rye though and haven't looked back. good luck to you though man.              :borat:



Yeah really, im a noobie and I went into WBS and did a G2G transfer and man that really speeds things up a lot....no more waiting....well as for now just waiting to spawn in a few days to compost manure.....try it garaunteed you will like the time warp....


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Re: First grow, using perlite/BRF substrate [Re: ChaostoOrder]
    #11346096 - 10/29/09 03:36 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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would it be possible to just use a partial cake?



only if you're fond of contamination.

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Also should I be worried about gas exchange since I have no holes on the outside




Do you have a dry verm barrier? if you do, you need to get them some air. If not, you're probably boned.


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Re: First grow, using perlite/BRF substrate [Re: fundamentalchair]
    #11409939 - 11/08/09 08:20 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah that's what I did wrong, I was so worried about contams and making the jar airtight I forgot about gas exchange :/  I have a dry layer of crushed perlite on top for the protective layer so I took the tops of the jars off (leaving foil with inoculation holes over the top).  I hope its not too late


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Re: First grow, using perlite/BRF substrate [Re: MZA]
    #11410093 - 11/08/09 09:12 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Crushed perlite on the top of cakes? You should really follow the teks the first fews times around to ensure success. I doubt you get any colonized jars without GE and opening the lids to drill hole would certainly result in contams. I would start over and follow the tek this time.

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Re: First grow, using perlite/BRF substrate [Re: daytripper05]
    #11410758 - 11/08/09 11:43 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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Crushed perlite on the top of cakes? You should really follow the teks the first fews times around to ensure success. I doubt you get any colonized jars without GE and opening the lids to drill hole would certainly result in contams. I would start over and follow the tek this time.




sorry dude, you're way too late into the conversation. He has been made aware that what he is doing is probably a really bad idea, but he's gonna do what he's gonna do. Actually, that's what most of the first 2 pages are.

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I hope its not too late




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Re: First grow, using perlite/BRF substrate [Re: fundamentalchair]
    #11410817 - 11/08/09 11:57 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Perlite in your cakes will not give the myc the water it needs. You obviously don't understand how shrooms grow. Just wait til you get some verm. You would have been better off using pet bedding or something that absorbs water and can be colonized...even shredded cardboard...

It is just a big waste of time with a worthless yield. You can get wbs anywhere, why don't you try bulk instead.


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Re: First grow, using perlite/BRF substrate [Re: fundamentalchair]
    #11411259 - 11/08/09 01:27 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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Crushed perlite on the top of cakes? You should really follow the teks the first fews times around to ensure success. I doubt you get any colonized jars without GE and opening the lids to drill hole would certainly result in contams. I would start over and follow the tek this time.




sorry dude, you're way too late into the conversation. He has been made aware that what he is doing is probably a really bad idea, but he's gonna do what he's gonna do. Actually, that's what most of the first 2 pages are.

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I hope its not too late




Fungi is a resilient little creature. Either way, like everything else in life, it's either good or it's fucked. :goodluck:




lol..right on. I thought I had read/kept up with the thread, but apparently not. I didn't want to be redundant. :wink:

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Re: First grow, using perlite/BRF substrate [Re: rizingfire]
    #11411467 - 11/08/09 02:08 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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Perlite in your cakes will not give the myc the water it needs. You obviously don't understand how shrooms grow. Just wait til you get some verm. You would have been better off using pet bedding or something that absorbs water and can be colonized...even shredded cardboard...

It is just a big waste of time with a worthless yield. You can get wbs anywhere, why don't you try bulk instead.





You don't even have to start with bulk using WBS. I've fruited colonized quart jars of WBS in a shotgun terrarium. By filling the jar up with water after it's starts pinning to just below the pins, I can reliably get 140gram+ wet cubes. A jar is usually only good for one or two of those size though. If only want one monster one, you may also have to rip all the pins out except for the biggest healthiest one. Damn easy method if you ask me.


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Re: First grow, using perlite/BRF substrate [Re: rizingfire]
    #11417389 - 11/09/09 08:52 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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Perlite in your cakes will not give the myc the water it needs. You obviously don't understand how shrooms grow. Just wait til you get some verm. You would have been better off using pet bedding or something that absorbs water and can be colonized...even shredded cardboard...

It is just a big waste of time with a worthless yield. You can get wbs anywhere, why don't you try bulk instead.



The perlite isn't for moisture, it's a protective layer.  And I have verm, just not when I started these jars, which have been doing fine aside from stalling due to no fresh air, not a water problem.



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Re: First grow, using perlite/BRF substrate [Re: MZA]
    #11511031 - 11/23/09 01:21 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Ok, the last jar FINALLY colonized and I birthed them today.  Last night I dunked them and put them in the fridge for 20 hours.  Then I rolled in fine vermiculite and put into my fruiting chamber

I had to break one of the cakes to get it out of the jar so I just put the pieces in two piles and will hope for the best

Also the temp is now 75.7 F and the humidity is 93%
Now its 75.9/96%

Edited by MZA (11/23/09 02:58 PM)

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