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Dr. Pollock's strains
    #1113561 - 12/05/02 11:38 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Does anyone have any idea which strains Dr.Polock was working on before he was killed? Do any genetic samples still exist??

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Re: Dr. Pollock's strains [Re: On_the_Down-Low]
    #1115286 - 12/05/02 07:36 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

i hadn't the slightest he had been killed  :blush: what's the story? 


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Re: Dr. Pollock's strains [Re: comario2]
    #1117210 - 12/06/02 12:51 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

whos Dr.Polock ?


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Re: Dr. Pollock's strains [Re: comario2]
    #1117211 - 12/06/02 12:51 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

whos Dr.Polock ?


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Re: Dr. Pollock's strains [Re: Azmodeus] * 1
    #1117237 - 12/06/02 01:04 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Dr.Pollock was a mycology researcher in Texas. He 'discovered' several strains- including (I think) Tampanesis, Mathias Romero and 1 or 2 others.
He wrote the book. Literally. Magic Mushroom Cultivation. It included work with brown rice cakes- I don't know if that lead to the PF Tek or not.
There was an excellent copy of the article from the San Antonio paper. Wild story. Locals say he was prolly done in by a local motorcyle 'club'. It was on the MJshroomer.yage.net site

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Re: Dr. Pollock's strains [Re: On_the_Down-Low]
    #1117270 - 12/06/02 01:12 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

:blush: 


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Re: Dr. Pollock's strains [Re: On_the_Down-Low]
    #1117316 - 12/06/02 01:21 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Ok thanks!
and in that case i mourn his passing...
...sniff..... :frown:


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Re: Dr. Pollock's strains [Re: On_the_Down-Low]
    #1117347 - 12/06/02 01:27 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

>It was on the MJshroomer.yage.net site

It still is:
http://www.mushroomjohn.com/pollock1.htm

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Re: Dr. Pollock's strains [Re: Anno]
    #1117418 - 12/06/02 01:44 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

oh my :shocked: anno, thanks ... seems like he was headed for it, perhaps a lesson to some :wink: 


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Re: Dr. Pollock's strains [Re: Anno]
    #1117469 - 12/06/02 01:57 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Thanx Anno- that site doesn't usually open for me for some reason.
So anyone know the strains? Anyone have anymore info on Dr. Pollock's work?
The internet isn't much help, probably since he died in '79.

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Re: Dr. Pollock's strains [Re: On_the_Down-Low]
    #1119894 - 12/07/02 01:06 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

try asking steven peele, don't know why got a sense he might know something about this


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Re: Dr. Pollock's strains [Re: comario2]
    #1120188 - 12/07/02 04:02 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

I thought Peele was a rip-off piece of shit 'vendor'. I need to ask MJ shroomer...

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Re: Dr. Pollock's strains [Re: On_the_Down-Low]
    #1124803 - 12/09/02 12:13 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

as a vendor, he sucks, you're right, although i wouldn't call him an outright piece of shit, at least based on my experience


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Re: Dr. Pollock's strains [Re: comario2]
    #1125061 - 12/09/02 01:43 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

I just said he was a POS vendor from the postings I've read here. He wasallegedly selling 'spores' that were sterile, misidentified and extremely small(.25X .25inch) and contaminated! .If those things are true- yes- that makes him a POS.

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Re: Dr. Pollock's strains [Re: On_the_Down-Low]
    #1125111 - 12/09/02 01:56 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

you do have a point - your info is 100% correct, based on my experience, so let's tag him a POS, he deserves it :grin: 


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Re: Dr. Pollock's strains [Re: comario2]
    #1136435 - 12/12/02 05:13 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Peele is completely unreliable as a vendor. But he is an old hand in the ethno-mycology field. He sucks by todays standards, but may shed light on the drama of yesteryear.

Don't trust him as far as you can throw him when it comes to him providing spores of the strains/species, but I'd trust most everything else that comes out of his mouth as at least worth consideration if not outright respect.


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Re: Dr. Pollock's strains [Re: mycofile]
    #1137602 - 12/13/02 05:10 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

mycophile, you expressed very exactly what i thought, thank you :smile: btw, we still have'nt found out what strain pollok was working on when he was killed? 


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Re: Dr. Pollock's strains [Re: comario2]
    #1138130 - 12/13/02 08:54 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Did you read the article on mj's site? Is this what you're looking for:
In reply to:

Dr. Stephen Pollock was buried with a choice sample of camote on his breast and a Matias Romero and a Renaissance, two species of mushroom he had studied extensively, in either hand.



We know what camote and MR are, what's the Renaissance? A new species as the article states, or a cube or tamp strain as it implies by saying "two species".

I bet I know what the next big thing from a vendor will be. The Renaissance strain. I hope this thread won't simply be the fuel for more vendor hype.


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Re: Dr. Pollock's strains [Re: mycofile]
    #1138162 - 12/13/02 09:04 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

I somehow got the impression that there are several strains floating around claiming to be MR- Iwonder who has the 'truest' sample?? Did he 'bank' them anywhere??

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Re: Dr. Pollock's strains [Re: Anno]
    #1139149 - 12/13/02 02:30 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

He was under investigation by many, many government organizations due to drug use, research, and distribution, and his gf calls the police when he doesn't show up for dinner? Sounds odd to me.


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Re: Dr. Pollock's strains [Re: Llamanose]
    #1140677 - 12/14/02 09:22 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

:wink: 


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Re: Dr. Pollock's strains [Re: mycofile]
    #1140683 - 12/14/02 09:25 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

so,"camote" was tampanensis sclerotia, right? not mexicana or other? where does the the name "camote" come from, anyway?


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Re: Dr. Pollock's strains [Re: comario2]
    #1141078 - 12/14/02 12:31 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Here is one of several of Steven Pollock's early ads from High Times.
I have better images here I will find them later and post them for you.

I may even someewhere have an article about the Cosmic Camote, A neme he created I think which reflects the term Philosopher's stone.


m! The image is not posting.

Try again later or under this post, That is in the next post under this post I am posting for you.

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Re: Dr. Pollock's strains [Re: mjshroomer]
    #1141086 - 12/14/02 12:34 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)



There we go and click on imaage to enlarge.

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Re: Dr. Pollock's strains [Re: mjshroomer]
    #1141488 - 12/14/02 04:06 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Too cool!! What issue was that- I need to check my back issues. I skimmed the article the first time and missed some of the details.

So his Cosmic camote was from Mexicana Huh??
Thanx

P.s. So- did he bank sample anywhere??

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Re: Dr. Pollock's strains [Re: On_the_Down-Low]
    #1142590 - 12/15/02 07:16 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

I think it came from the tampenensis, I will look for the aticle info on that subject matter by Pollock. It was in:

Pollock, Steven Hayden. . 1978b. (Mag.). Prima Donna mushrooms and the Cosmic Camote. Hi-Life vol. 1(12):12-13, 60. December.

In this issue Pollock writes on the Creation of sclerotia from Psilocybe tampanensis.
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here are two more Pollock ads from magazines like Hi-Life, Head and High Times.


Hm the images won't post. will try laer

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Re: Dr. Pollock's strains [Re: On_the_Down-Low]
    #1145693 - 12/16/02 10:52 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Matias Romero is a place. Any strain originating from spores originally collected there is as "true" a copy as you can get. Many people have collected from there over the years. Now if you mean "truest" as in actually came from the MR that pollock had, I don't think anybody has claimed that their MR came from pollock directly or indirectly.

Also, when I reread that quote I made from the article, it definitely implies that Ren. is a different species, not strain. The camote (tamp) was on his chest. The MR was in one hand, and the Ren. was in the other. The article says "two species". Now, we know that MR was a strain, not a species. So, did the reporter fuck up the lingo, or is there a mysterious new species Psilocybe Renaisance that Pollock to his grave?


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Re: Dr. Pollock's strains [Re: mycofile]
    #1148106 - 12/17/02 06:30 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

i don't trust reporters


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Re: Dr. Pollock's strains [Re: mycofile]
    #1148337 - 12/17/02 07:51 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

It looks like according to that that ad that mj posted, the ren was a cubie.


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Re: Dr. Pollock's strains [Re: mjshroomer]
    #1167839 - 12/24/02 01:25 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

I'm confused;

Poster:
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"Pollock's Cosmic Camote fromMexicana rather than from Tampenensis"

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Pictures&Number=629479&Forum=All_Forums&Words=camote&Match=Entire%20Phrase&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=allposts&Main=616269&Search=true#Post629479

I really appreciate any help.on this

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