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Offlinethisone
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making bigger mushrooms
    #1113151 - 12/05/02 11:46 AM (14 years, 8 days ago)

okay been doing some reseach on the facts and through the forum and found that the consensus is that you can have too much humidity. It said that fruits will grow faster and larger. So I need to work on reducing humidity. 1.Should I get rid of the perlite and keep the bubbler? 2. If I do that do I need to keep the bubbler inside the fruiting chamber? 3. Should I keep the perlite in a seperate tray? How big should it be? Should I keep the bubbler going in that case? Sorry for the many questions.  :confused:


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Re: making bigger mushrooms [Re: thisone]
    #1113161 - 12/05/02 11:50 AM (14 years, 8 days ago)

Keep the perlite i just have the perlite on the teranium floor with the casing in trays and i spary about twice a day once in the morning and one at night and fan regulary. You probably dont need the bubbler.


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Re: making bigger mushrooms [Re: EvilGir]
    #1113168 - 12/05/02 11:52 AM (14 years, 8 days ago)

The bubbler helps with the air echange though because I have it outside the terranium now. I used to have it inside to raise temps and recirculate humid air. Is the misting neccessary? How many times a day do you fan?


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Re: making bigger mushrooms [Re: thisone]
    #1113243 - 12/05/02 12:12 PM (14 years, 8 days ago)

i bubble into peroxide/water/perlite on a timer and never fan or mist ***casings***. i don't do cakes.


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Re: making bigger mushrooms [Re: thisone]
    #1113256 - 12/05/02 12:16 PM (14 years, 8 days ago)

I have the same setup- bubbler and perlite. Bubbler mostly for air exchange, one hour on one off. No additional fanning required. If yours bubbler and light both on separate timers, maintenance is extrymelly easy- open once a day to check up on ltl friends, and pick the ones that are ready :smile:
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Re: making bigger mushrooms [Re: Bilge]
    #1113263 - 12/05/02 12:16 PM (14 years, 8 days ago)

I just usualy fan about threee four times a day.


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Re: making bigger mushrooms [Re: EvilGir]
    #1113278 - 12/05/02 12:21 PM (14 years, 8 days ago)

i would fan but i'm a lazy fart and sometimes go out of town for days at a time. the timer/bubbler allows me to just pick em when they're ready. no other work required.


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Re: making bigger mushrooms [Re: Bilge]
    #1113446 - 12/05/02 01:03 PM (14 years, 8 days ago)

is running it all day bad? Everyone seems to have timers.


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Re: making bigger mushrooms [Re: thisone]
    #1113496 - 12/05/02 01:19 PM (14 years, 8 days ago)

i run it for as long as it takes to keep the right humidity. i started at all day then eventually ended up at on/off every 15 minutes. i could probably get away with less. i can't think of any harm running it all day would do if that's what keeps your humidity right. fruits like some level of CO2, so i guess you could theoretically remove too much CO2 by running fresh air in all day, but i've never heard of anyone having that problem.


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Re: making bigger mushrooms [Re: Bilge]
    #1113515 - 12/05/02 01:24 PM (14 years, 8 days ago)

do you think it's lowering my humidity too much. I notice a considerably less amount but it's not a matter of too much humididty but not enough. I orginally got it because I thought it would raise humidity by putting new moist air in but it seems most people use it for air exchange purposes. Should I cut back on runnnig it all day?


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Re: making bigger mushrooms [Re: thisone]
    #1113654 - 12/05/02 02:04 PM (14 years, 8 days ago)

My buddy and his monkey have setup with a pan of perlite with the cups in the pan to with h2o2 and warm water and perlite in them and it works quite well running all day. Right now they have a horse poo casing without a casing layer in there now and it seems to be doing fine. They plan on casing it with jiffy mix plus after the first flush.

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Re: making bigger mushrooms [Re: thisone]
    #1113686 - 12/05/02 02:13 PM (14 years, 8 days ago)

if you are running it all day and you think it's causing lower humidity, try shutting it off for a few hours to see what happens to the humidity. but first, i'd be sure my humidity gauge wasn't screwed up.

some people use a bubbler (air hose into water/h2o2) to add air. some people use a pan of wet perlite to increase humidity. i put them together to do both.


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Re: making bigger mushrooms [Re: Bilge]
    #1113709 - 12/05/02 02:19 PM (14 years, 8 days ago)

geting them to pin is the tricky part. when co2 is above 5000ppm (parts per million) you will have a hard time geting pins. once you have the pins you can have higher concentration of co2. so fan 2-3 times a day+use bubbler then once your cakes/caseings get pins then just go to the bubbler. your going to have to find an equallibrium between the amout of air exchange and the humidity so run your set up a week or 2 prior to puting anything in there to get things right.


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Re: making bigger mushrooms [Re: IDontGrow]
    #1113771 - 12/05/02 02:39 PM (14 years, 8 days ago)

it's already running away with one cake with pins on it. You think more fanning is the trick though? Can it be fanned too much. Some days I am home a lot and could fan a lot. What's too much and what's just right. thanks for the infor on C02 levels. I always learn something new here.


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